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    Well its here, the end of the regular season and the hopeful beginning of a long playoff run. This game has no real meaning to us aside from going 11-5. I originally picked us going 10-6 this year so I've been fairly happy with the team this year. After that Bucs game it looked like it was going to be a wasted year but they rebounded nicely and played the way that we all knew they were capable of playing. Time to hand out some awards for the season:

    5 star players:

    Aaron Rodgers - Success in the NFL is mostly pegged on the QB and us fans should be thankful for such a smooth transition from a legend in Favre to the efficient Rodgers. The scary thing is that Rodgers still has room to get better. He also became the 1st QB in NFL history to throw for 4000 yards in his first 2 seasons as a starter.

    Charles Woodson - Hard to believe that he just keeps getting better every year that he's here. A lockdown playmaking CB who's made a drastic mark on our defense. 27 interceptions in 4 years with 6 of them going back for TDs. His signing ranks right up there with Reggie White's for us.

    Clay Matthews - Normally rookies don't come in and make the kind of impact that Clay has made. Despite not starting until week 4 he's imassed 10 sacks which set a Packers rookie record. Matthew's is leading the team in sacks and his play helped us get back on track early in the season to make the playoffs.

    4 star players:

    Cullen Jenkins - Jenkins has been a beast this year. He leads our defensive lineman in sacks and forced fumbles. Proving that when healthy he can be a dominate player.

    Ryan Pickett - Tremendously helped his value by his strong play at NT, Pickett should have plenty of suitors if the Packers don't try to retain him this offseason.

    Ryan Grant - I don't think anyone has quietly gained 1200 rushing yards this year other than Grant. He really turned it on the 2nd half of the season and helped balance out the offense.

    Jermichael Finley - This is why Ted Thompson drafting the athletic Finley and stayed with him after a painful rookie season. He's proving to be a matchup weapon and has made his way into a much bigger role in the offense. Expect bigger things next year.

    Nick Collins - Proving that last year was no fluke Collins again put together another strong pro bowl calibur season. Simply put, the Packers cannot let Collins leave town. He's shown great leadership this year in his new role and should continue to improve again next year.

    3 star players:

    Donald Driver - He started out hot but has started to take a back seat lately to Greg Jennins and Jermichael Finley. Still though he's going to reach the 1000 yard receiving mark for the 6th consecutive season which is remarkable considering his age.

    Greg Jennings - Probably our biggest disapointment of the season. After signing a contract extention we were expecting big things from Jennings or at least to repeat what he did last season. While he's been drawing more coverage this year he still put up a respectiful 1100 yard season.

    Needs improvement:

    Special teams - Mason Crosby has struggled along with punter Jermey Kapinos. The kick coverage had struggled early in the season but has improved.

    Offensive line - I think that we're all sick of the zone blocking scheme. Weather is getting push in the run game or stuffing a pass rush our offensive lineman are just too undersized for a cold weather team.

    Depth - Last season showed what the lack of depth can do to a team. It was pass rushers last season and this year its cornerbacks. We need to do a better job of developing young players at certain positions in order to maintain a certain level of play.

  • #2
    i think you miss understand the amount of depth we lost at CB. 3 of our 5 starters were all hurt.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by PACKmanN View Post
      i think you miss understand the amount of depth we lost at CB. 3 of our 5 starters were all hurt.
      His 2nd to last sentence says we saw what lack of depth can do to a team...Injuries or poor development, either way Green Bay is not deep at the defensive back position.

      I think he is right on saying Green Bay has not developed young players well enough. Case and point, Jarret Bush. The coaches must think he will/would turn into something better and he isn't, so poor job on their part (in my opinion).

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      • #4
        Originally posted by PACKmanN View Post
        i think you miss understand the amount of depth we lost at CB. 3 of our 5 starters were all hurt.
        If you think Blackmon and Lee are depth then something is wrong. Neither guy would've been a capable fall back option. I can understand Bush struggling because he's only on the team for special teams duty and to be a guy who can play CB and safety in spot duty. But there's certain positions that we've failed to develop young players at and CB and the offensive line are those areas.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by cvv84 View Post
          If you think Blackmon and Lee are depth then something is wrong. Neither guy would've been a capable fall back option.
          Hard to say with Lee considering he's got Harrell syndrome. He may have been legit if healthy.

          What do the vikings and marijuana have in common? Every time you put them in a bowl
          they get smoked.

          2010-2011 Super Bowl Champions
          Hint:Not the Bears.

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          • #6
            Not that any game is meaningless, but this is a chance to rest some dinged up players. If the Packers like the match-up against AZ, they could try to guarantee the next week with them by winning the game. If they don't, they could rest a lot of players and maybe AZ gets the bye.

            Response to a couple items above: Collins made the pro bowl and had six picks. He's a 5 star player and will either get shafted by the CBA not being renewed, or turn into GB's franchised player and get 6 million next year.

            Corner depth a big concern of mine for the play-offs, and even for next year. Would've been great to have traded AK for a CB prior to the trading deadline, but ce la vie.

            For the Season's The Good, The Bad and The Ugly:
            Aaron Rodgers has been incredible. Given the pressure from fans, the success Farv has had this year and the expectations on him, he's exceeded them by becoming the first QB in NFL history to throw for 4k+ yards in his first two seasons starting. Woodson should be DPOY, but we'll see if all those East Coast Homers pick the NY player. Woodson has won more games, so we'll see if that matters or not. The draft class has rocked. Raji, Clay, Lang, Quinn, and Jones have all been valued contributors. Wynn and Underwood have shown some promise but been banged up. Sure wish TT had kept Meredith over Giacomini. Brad Jones stepping in having better production than AK was an unforeseeable pleasure.

            The Bad: The dang injuries. Sure every NFL team has players go out, but still sad to see 10 players go out for the year, from promising guys like Brett Swain and Pat Lee, to valued pillars like Al Harris and Jason Spitz, to guys you knew were going to get hurt some time this year like Justin Harrell and Will Blackmon. The 4th quarter losses to Tampa Bay and the Steelers. Could still be fighting for the NFC North crown and a high seed except for those losses.

            The Ugly: The sacks. Even though pressure has been applied to the wound and the team has stopped the majority of the bleeding, fifty sacks given up and leading the league in that category is just plain ugly. I wouldn't mind facing off against Minnesota again given that the line has seemed to have jelled, but giving up 14 sacks to one team was ridiculous. Not surprising that 4 of the 5 GB losses have involved giving up 6+ sacks, with Pittsburgh (irony) being the exception.

            I'd like to see the Packers beat AZ, even if it ruins my 10-6 prediction:
            "I'm glad the Packers are coming out west. I'll be at the two games in Phoenix, though one is pre-season.
            10-6 looks attainable if the defense gets better at all and the RT spot gets handled. Could be even better, but this is still a young team transitioning to a new defensive system, so we'll see."

            Hmmmm, who knew I just might get a third GB game to go to in Phoenix?
            The Bears Still Suck!
            The pain fades and the good memories will remain.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TitleTown088 View Post
              Hard to say with Lee considering he's got Harrell syndrome. He may have been legit if healthy.
              I guess I've just never been a fan of Lee. I thought we reached on him at the time and thought that Terrell Thomas would've been a better fit.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by cvv84 View Post
                I guess I've just never been a fan of Lee. I thought we reached on him at the time and thought that Terrell Thomas would've been a better fit.
                Thoomas may have been a better pick, but I'm not sure Lee was a reach, I saw him going to the Packers at 31 in more than a few mocks. He could still pan out.

                What do the vikings and marijuana have in common? Every time you put them in a bowl
                they get smoked.

                2010-2011 Super Bowl Champions
                Hint:Not the Bears.

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                • #9
                  Let's root for the Vikings so by the time our kickoff time rolls around, we can rest most of our players being that we'd be locked in against Arizona in the first round.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tjsunstein View Post
                    Let's root for the Vikings so by the time our kickoff time rolls around, we can rest most of our players being that we'd be locked in against Arizona in the first round.
                    Can't do it. I'm kind of hoping for a Vikings/Pack first round game. If we can beat them in their place after everything thats happened this season I think we'll have enough emotion, momentum, and belief in our locker room to go real deep in the playoffs.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TitleTown088 View Post
                      Thoomas may have been a better pick, but I'm not sure Lee was a reach, I saw him going to the Packers at 31 in more than a few mocks. He could still pan out.
                      And Alan Branch and Winston Justice were mocked to be top 10 picks. I don't know, I just have a feeling Lee's time is over in Green Bay. Thompson is quick to admit his mistakes and cut bait so the only way I see him sticking in camp is if we don't bring in any other CBs - which we're almost certain to do.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cvv84 View Post
                        I guess I've just never been a fan of Lee. I thought we reached on him at the time and thought that Terrell Thomas would've been a better fit.
                        I was hoping for Lee when we had traded down and took Nelson instead. He's been hurt his first two seasons, but if he's able to stay healthy next year, I'd expect him to contribute. I don't know if you can be too upset about our depth, since most teams would struggle after losing their 2nd, 4th, and 5th cornerbacks. I am disappointed that we haven't tried to bring in any veteran corners at this point though, because I can't imagine there's nobody available that's better than Bush. It'd be great to see Underwood or Bell step up at this point.

                        No way am I rooting for Minnesota tomorrow. I'd also like to see a real football game between us and Arizona despite playing them right away in the playoffs. Some way or another, I want a rematch against the Vikings.

                        Sig thanks to mockalicious

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cvv84 View Post
                          I don't know, I just have a feeling Lee's time is over in Green Bay.
                          It hasn't even started really yet.If healthy, and all indications are he's already back to normal, I'll be willing to bet he's a lock on the roster nest season, especially with AL's future up in the air.

                          What do the vikings and marijuana have in common? Every time you put them in a bowl
                          they get smoked.

                          2010-2011 Super Bowl Champions
                          Hint:Not the Bears.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TitleTown088 View Post
                            It hasn't even started really yet.If healthy, and all indications are he's already back to normal, I'll be willing to bet he's a lock on the roster nest season, especially with AL's future up in the air.
                            He's back to normal because the knee injury he suffered wasn't season ending. When they're not even willing to wait a few weeks to get him back that just goes to show you what the coaches think of him.

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                            • #15
                              Pat Lee is supposed to have superstar athleticism by the way. With how thin our depth is at the position, he's almost guaranteed to make the roster on potential alone, and because we'll only bring in so many new guys. I'm not a believer in Blackmon. He'll never cut it even as a nickel or dime corner and he's not a good enough returner to keep him around just for that. Then there's the health issues as well. That means the only corners (not counting Lee) that are a lock to be on the 2010 roster are Charles and Trammon, since Harris might be done and after that our talent drops to Jarrett Bush level (ugh).

                              Thanks to BK for the sig

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