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  • #31
    Wait, you think Thompson is an offensive line racist?

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    • #32
      How would you guys feel if TT drafted Herzlich out of BC? Something tells me that Herzlich will be drafted by either us, the Giants, the Patriots, or maybe the Ravens. I think he could be a nice complement to Matthews, and if we draft him in the 3rd round, he could be a very nice value pick. Although I bet a team like the Patriots with all of those early picks will draft him in the 2nd round.

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      • #33
        TT must be a raciest.....All D-Line are black, all DB's are black, All QB's are white, all most all O-line is white and not counting Kuhn all HB's are black....no way it just worked out like that right? Must be a raciest (roll of the eyes)

        Moffitt is white, which doesn't matter what so ever. He is athletic for size and like Spitz can play both Center and OG very well.

        Herzlich is a great story and come draft time I'm guessin his story will be all over draft coverage and ESPN. He was incredible before the cancer and surprisingly looked very good for all that he has went through. Only thing is I see him fitting better as an IB in the 3-4. (Personal Opinion) So if they look to upgrade at IB i'd like to see him or Casey Matthews get a look guessing both could top out in 2nd round but more like 3-4th round as of right now
        Last edited by RyanBraun8; 12-18-2010, 05:14 PM.

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        • #34
          My Dream Offseason

          FA

          Davin Joseph - OG
          Ben Leber - OLB/ Jacob Ford - OLB

          DRAFT

          1. Aaron Williams - CB - Texas(if he's 6'+)
          2. Kristofer ODowd - OC- USC
          2(trade 3rd+4th). Noel Devine - RB - West Virgina
          4(b). Joseph Barksdale - OT - LSU
          5. Kyle Hix - OG - Texas
          6. Quinton Carter S - Oklahoma
          7(a). Adrian Moten - ILB - Maryland
          7(b). Andy Dalton - QB - TCU

          DEPTH CHART

          QB- Aaron Rodgers, Matt Flynn, Andy Dalton*
          RB- Ryan Grant, Noel Devine*, Brandon Jackson, James Starks
          FB- Quinn Johnson, John Kuhn
          WR- Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones, Jordy Nelson, Brett Swain
          TE- JerMichael Finely, Donald Lee, Andrew Quarless
          LT- Chad Clifton, Joseph Barksdale*
          LG- Josh Sitton, Michael Newhouse
          C- Kristofer ODowd *
          RG- Davin Joesph*, Kyle Hix*
          RT- Bryan Bugala, TJ Lang

          DE: Cullen Jenkins, CJ Wilson
          NT: Ryan Pickett, BJ Raji
          DE: Johnny Jolly, Mike Neal
          OLB: Clay Matthews, Frank Zombo
          ILB: Nick Barnett, Adrian Morton*
          ILB: Brandon Chillar, Desmond Bishop
          OLB: Ben Leber/Jacob Ford, Brad Jones, Brady Poppinga
          CB: Tramon Williams, Sam Shields
          S: Nick Collins, Quinton Carter*
          S: Morgan Burnett, Charlie Peprah
          CB: Charles Woodson, Aaron Williams*, Brandon Underwood

          K: Mason Corsby
          P: Tim Masthay
          S: Brett Goode

          KR: Noel Devine, Sam Shields
          PR: Noel Devine

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          • #35
            oh and i would mind if they settled for Richie Incognito either. Bring his fire to the oline and looks like he's finally smarted up.

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            • #36
              They need to re-sign guys like Des Bishop and especially Jenkins. I'm worried that they won't bring Jenkins back, though. I really hope they bring Jolly back to, he was emerging as a 3-4 DE force in 2009. I'd hope they give him another shot

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              • #37
                I want 100% of our off-season focus to be on SPECIAL TEAMS, starting with the ST coach. He needs to go.
                Every other facet of our team has done well to good to great.

                Then I want to draft 3 guys who have a great track record of being dangerous kick and/or punt returners.

                We need to add some spark to that unit.

                We need a guy back there like a Brandon Tate where teams elect to squib the ball to.

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                • #38
                  I completely support trading Matt Flynn if there is a market for him. If Charlie Whitehurst can get a 3rd round pick I don't see why Flynn shouldn't get a 2nd. I doubt we can find a team as dumb as Seattle was though.

                  Thanks to BK for the sig

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by umphrey View Post
                    I completely support trading Matt Flynn if there is a market for him. If Charlie Whitehurst can get a 3rd round pick I don't see why Flynn shouldn't get a 2nd. I doubt we can find a team as dumb as Seattle was though.
                    LOL- well, maybe Seattle again? Hasselbeck is terrible now.
                    Maybe we can get Leon Washington and a 3rd round pick.
                    Leon would give us our best return specialist since Desmond Howard, and special teams is what sucks the worst on this team of course.

                    I don't mind keeping Flynn either though knowing he's good enough to go in now and save games. The Detroit mess sucked, but he was rusty and hadn't done it before. Now he has (played well).

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by J-Mike88 View Post
                      I want 100% of our off-season focus to be on SPECIAL TEAMS, starting with the ST coach. He needs to go.
                      Every other facet of our team has done well to good to great.

                      Then I want to draft 3 guys who have a great track record of being dangerous kick and/or punt returners.

                      We need to add some spark to that unit.

                      We need a guy back there like a Brandon Tate where teams elect to squib the ball to.
                      At some point the Packers just need to stick it out with a Special Teams coach, they only get a new one almost every year or two. Packers have gone through 4 or 5 in the last 10 years (Stock, Novak, Bonamego, Slocum, and maybe someone else) Nothing improves when you change coaches constintly. Slocum has done better than Stock I think

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                      • #41
                        I thought our special teams did pretty well this year. If you look at the Patriots OG return, yeah that was awful, but every team has a bad play here or there. The Devin Hester TD sucked too but our offense put us in a terrible situation. I'd say our ST is a far cry from how terrible they were last year and although not good it's not time to break out the torches and pitchforks yet. We really, really need to draft a return man and use him as our #5 receiver though. (David Gilreath!!!!!!)

                        Thanks to BK for the sig

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                        • #42
                          My 2011 Packers Mock, V1.0

                          Free agent signings:
                          -None

                          Draft:

                          1- VON MILLER, OLB, Texas A&M, 6-3, 243



                          I have seen some analysts, and mocks here at SWDC that have him available when we pick. I'd be willing to trade up to get this guy if we had to.

                          As some others have written on the youtube comment board, he plus Matthews would equal devastation for opposing QBs of the Packers. Zombo has done a decent job. Poppinga is on the way out, Brad Jones can't stay healthy. Vin is relentless, has a similar motor to that of Matthews. He could use some work in his coverage, but they said the same thing about Clay coming out. Von actually has more fluid hips than Matthews does. Miller-Time is the real deal.

                          2-DARIUS MORRIS, OT, Temple

                          I know he doesn't fit the typical profile of our Offensive Line, but there are exceptions.
                          "Morris might be this year's Rodger Saffold. He's a versatile linemen with good strength, competitiveness, and a nice overall skill set. We like his ability to play both guard positions and right tackle in the league."
                          Saffold has been great for the Rams this year as a rookie. If Morris is anything like Saffold, he'd be a great pick for us here and a nice match with Bulaga for years ahead. Which guy plays Left tackle? TT & MM keep insisting Bulaga will.

                          3-DAVON HOUSE, CB, New Mexico St


                          4-ARMON BINNS, WR, Cincinnati

                          Armon Binns #80 of the Cincinnati Bearcats catches a touchdown pass over Joe Haden #5 of the Florida Gators during the Allstate Sugar Bowl at the Louisana Superdome on January 1, 2010

                          5-JAMES BREWER, OT, Indiana, 6-8, 331

                          TJ Lang seems like he's going to take over for Colledge at LG, and last year's rookie OT/OG Newhouse still hasn't shown he can be a starting OT in the NFL.
                          While I like Morris a lot, Brewer has a chance to be a bookend OT in the NFL with some work. Reminds me of a Sebastian Vollmer while at the U of Houston. Tall, seemingly stiff, but pass protects well. Remember, Bulaga is capable of becoming a Pro Bowl, mauling guard. If Brewer and Morris were to both magically turn out like a Saffold and both become solid OTs, you could make Bulaga and Sitton the 2 guards.

                          6-DA'REL SCOTT, RB, Maryland

                          Just had 200 yards on 13 carries this week in the Military Bowl win over ECU.
                          Only had 508 yards on the regular season, including -10 on 4 carries in his final home game.

                          7-TEJAY JOHNSON, S, TCU
                          Last edited by J-Mike88; 12-30-2010, 08:14 AM.

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                          • #43
                            Nice mock J-Mike.

                            I personally like Von Miller, I know some on here do not. But I watched the Texas A&M - Nebraska game and he was a major reason for the Aggies win. He is very disruptive...My only concern about him is his weight and ability to set the edge in the run game. I do like that he has played standing up so there will be a pretty easy transition to the NFL.

                            If Ryan Kerrigan is there would you take him or Miller?

                            -If it were me I would take Kerrigan.
                            Last edited by bigboiajhawk; 12-30-2010, 02:33 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by bigboiajhawk View Post
                              Nice mock J-Mike.

                              I personally like Von Miller, I know some on here do not. But I watched the Texas A&M - Nebraska game and he was a major reason for the Aggies win. He is very disruptive...My only concern about him is his weight and ability to set the edge in the run game. I do like that he has played standing up so there will be a pretty easy transition to the NFL.

                              If Ryan Kerrigan is there would you take him or Miller?

                              -If it were me I would take Kerrigan.
                              Thanks.

                              That's a good question... people seem to love Kerrigan. I have to see how fluid he is when he's asked to do those types of things at the combine, or the East-West shrine game, Senior Bowl, etc.

                              He definitely doesn't appear to have the fluidity that a Matthews does. But he's bigger.... if he can be the bull rusher off the edge that 34 OLB Merriman was before his steroids wore off, or like Lamar Woodley is, I'd take him.

                              But I believe Von Miller has the ability to cause chaos if teams continue to double team Matthews on 50% of snaps.

                              I'm still studying up on Akeem Ayers outta UCLA, and have heard some good things from the dude at Pitt.
                              Georgia has an OLB some people love. But Scott's not that high on him. Still, Scott, like all scouts, is wrong plenty of times on guys.

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                              • #45
                                my draft wishes:

                                -anyone who can make the offensive line more physical
                                -another pass rusher outside of Clay
                                -mid to late round QB to try and develop ala Brunell, Hasselbeck, Brooks, Flynn, etc.
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