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  • #76
    Originally posted by cvv84 View Post
    I know they started to run that more with Chillar when we lost Poppinga and Jones. Walden doesn't look half bad though and Zombo was filling in nicely as well.
    Zombo does nothing for me. He should be fighting for the very final OLB spot next year.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by GB12 View Post
      Zombo does nothing for me. He should be fighting for the very final OLB spot next year.
      Reguardless I feel good with the combination of guys we have. I'd love to upgrade the position but its been shown that we have capable guys on the roster.

      More pressing would be to lock Capers and Greene up for a few more years. I'd like to see Greene groomed for the DC job.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by GB12 View Post
        Since he first got significantly playing time this year in the New England game I thought he should be starting over Zombo. He has been the guy the past three since Zombo's been hurt, but I hope he keeps that spot even if Zombo is good to go.


        Hawk doesn't even look like the same player this year. I thought it was all but certain he would be cut to avoid the $10 million salary next year, but I'm not so sure anymore.

        Bishop I want signed long term. He's the physical LB that we need on the inside. He'll knock the RB backwards instead of letting him get that extra yard. He was very good in his first year starting and with a full season I think he could be a pro bowl quality player.

        Barnett is underrated on here. Like Ryan Grant, he doesn't get the respect he deserves among Packer fans. He played very well last year when no one thought he could fit the 3-4. When healthy, he's still the best linebacker on the team.

        Next year I want Barnett and Bishop as our starters. I might still keep Hawk around for his last year though. Chillar was never supposed to be a starter. He's a coverage specialist and good backup that will be useful no matter who the starters are. Being able to sub him in for Hawk or Bishop on passing downs would be huge right now.


        Also I'd be kind of curious to see Bishop tried at OLB. Run some packages of Bishop-Barnett-Hawk-Matthews. If it works well leave him there as the full time starter and Hawk in the middle.
        Well said. Agreed on BIshop. He's the perfect type of ILB on a 3-4 team. I really hope the Pack bring him back and ensure he is a starter on the team. I thought I read earlier in the year that Bishop wouldn't accept an extension and wants to test FA, since he feels slighted by GB during his tenure here. I hope that was just rumor-mongering. I also hope the Pack keep Jolly for next season, AND Jenkins. I love the talent on this defense. Far cry from those early 2000's defenses the Pack had. Such garbage in those days and I hated that unit with a passion

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        • #79
          Despite Cowboys fans thinking Capers is going to bolt to Dallas the first chance he gets, he's not going anywhere.

          As for Greene, I don't think he's a future defensive coordinator. He's a damn good OLBs coach, but there's a lot more involved in running the whole defense that I don't think he can handle. In fact I don't think he'd even be interested in being a coordinator. Not that I have any inside information on that, but I think he's content being a position coach. There's a lot more work and time involved in being a coordinator. If for some reason Capers would leave his replacement would almost certainly be Mike Trgovac.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by BloodBrother View Post
            Well said. Agreed on BIshop. He's the perfect type of ILB on a 3-4 team. I really hope the Pack bring him back and ensure he is a starter on the team. I thought I read earlier in the year that Bishop wouldn't accept an extension and wants to test FA, since he feels slighted by GB during his tenure here. I hope that was just rumor-mongering. I also hope the Pack keep Jolly for next season, AND Jenkins. I love the talent on this defense. Far cry from those early 2000's defenses the Pack had. Such garbage in those days and I hated that unit with a passion
            That was before he was starting, or just a couple games into it. If we gave him a competitive offer I'm sure he'd take it if he was guaranteed a starting job. The problem there is it means we'll have to make an early decision on Hawk.

            I think we will bring Jolly back. He still keeps the one year $2.5 million tender he signed last year. I don't see any reason we wouldn't bring him back. If he's out of shape and ineffective we can cut him before the season, but I'm expecting him to return to form. Add Jolly to a healthy Cullen Jenkins, Ryan Pickett, and an improved BJ Raji and that will be nasty.

            And yeah, Jenkins better be re-signed. He should be priority #1 of the offseason, ahead of Bishop.

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            • #81
              I think we keep Hawk and let him and Barnett fight it out for the 2nd ILB job. If Bishop isn't starting next year, I won't even watch a single game. Dude has earned his spot.

              Hawk has been the definition of solid all year long. He's always in position and a sure tackler. Not a playmaker but he's almost never bad. Barnett has a bit more playmaking ability and is, in my opinion, a better cover backer. Let them fight it out, our #3 ILB is going to get playing time anyway.

              Walden. Wow. He looked like a legit pass rusher out there. Is he our new OLB on that side? I know it's one game against a poor OLine, but he looked dynamic.

              Also, I continue to like Starks running the ball. Jackson isn't the guy. Starks needs to be our 1st and 2nd down guy. Period.


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              • #82
                props to Walden today...he played so well


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                • #83
                  Originally posted by J-Mike88 View Post
                  (PF28, your comment on injuries doesn't take into account the impact it's had on special teams, which most fans forget is a big part of the game, and a part that has helped us to lose 3 or 4 games this season.)
                  our special teams have sucked since McCarthy has been here, for the most part, so that argument has little substance behind it...sorry


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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Sportsfan486 View Post
                    I think we keep Hawk and let him and Barnett fight it out for the 2nd ILB job. If Bishop isn't starting next year, I won't even watch a single game. Dude has earned his spot.
                    That is such ********, and you know it.

                    Hawk has been the definition of solid all year long. He's always in position and a sure tackler. Not a playmaker but he's almost never bad. Barnett has a bit more playmaking ability and is, in my opinion, a better cover backer. Let them fight it out, our #3 ILB is going to get playing time anyway.
                    I think we have to at least see what we can get for Hawk in a trade. $10 million is a lot to pay for a guy we don't really need. If we can shed that salary and pick up at least a 4th it'd be worth it.

                    Walden. Wow. He looked like a legit pass rusher out there. Is he our new OLB on that side? I know it's one game against a poor OLine, but he looked dynamic.
                    Like I said earlier, since the Patriots game he's looked like the best OLB we have besides Matthews. He's not the long term answer, but he should definitely be the guy for the playoffs. The Bears line is the reason for him getting the big plays, but he has been solid the past three weeks.

                    Also, I continue to like Starks running the ball. Jackson isn't the guy. Starks needs to be our 1st and 2nd down guy. Period.
                    The only problem with Starks is that it took too long for him to get involved in the offense. If he was healthy the whole season he would probably be getting the majority of carries. However, since he's only been full go for 5 weeks I can definitely understand not trusting him to be the guy. I think he has a lot of potential, but he's not ready yet.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by GB12 View Post
                      That is such ********, and you know it.
                      .
                      Okay, probably, but you get my point. LOL.


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                      • #86
                        Even if it's against the Packers Bil Murray is the man.

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                        What do the vikings and marijuana have in common? Every time you put them in a bowl
                        they get smoked.

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                        Hint:Not the Bears.

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