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  • Originally posted by Dam8610 View Post
    If it's between Hall and Giguere, I'd rather the team keep Giguere. I'm sure I'm not the only one tired of Roy Hall's annual IR trip.
    There are a number of things in Hall's favour though. Firstly, Giguere is currently injured and has missed all of Training Camp so far. Giguere is also still Practice Squad eligible, something Roy Hall isn't. Roy Hall is also, when fit, the team's best Gunner. Neither will see the field significantly as a Wide Receiver, unless injuries. The Colts rarely play a 4 WR set, never mind the 5 WR set, so for Hall/Giguere to play significanlty there would need to be two injuries. With that in mind the winner of that battle needs to be able to contribute on Special Teams, something Roy Hall is very good at. If Roy Hall goes IR, which he probably will, then they sign Giguere of the Practice Squad.
    Originally posted by George Carlin

    In Football the object is for the Field General to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the Defence by hitting his Receivers with deadly accuracy, in spite of the Blitz, even if he has to use the Shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack which punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy’s Defensive Line.

    In Baseball the object is to go home and be safe.

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    • I really don't know what to think about it all. I just read an article on Giguere and I was just kind of rooting for him. He's a guy I would like to see in preseason definitely!

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      Originally posted by killxswitch
      Bill Polian is cancer wrapped in AIDS delivered in an XXL enema so please don't expect me to disagree with you.

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      • Here is some news, Charlie Johnson replaces Ugoh as starting offensive left tackle, here is the link for the source.

        http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/date

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        • Wtf I need to see confirmation of that. That can't be right, no way.
          Pugnacity, testosterone, truculence, and belligerence.

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          • Originally posted by John Oehser

            http://indyfootballreport.com/index.php/archives/2980

            Indianapolis Colts OL Charlie Johnson is now the starting left tackle, Colts Head Coach Jim Cadlwell said late Monday morning.

            Johnson, after missing the first week of training camp with a pectoral injury, returned to practice Monday morning. He worked at starting left tackle during the session.

            Tony Ugoh, a starter at left tackle much of 2007 and 2008 and a 2007 second-round draft selection, will work at right and left tackle, Caldwell said.
            That means either Ugoh has been benched, or Ryan Diem has been benched. Personally, if it was either of the two, I would bench Diem. He was awful last year, and I always thought Ugoh was a better fit at Right Tackle, than Left.
            Last edited by Seamus2602; 08-10-2009, 10:52 AM.
            Originally posted by George Carlin

            In Football the object is for the Field General to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the Defence by hitting his Receivers with deadly accuracy, in spite of the Blitz, even if he has to use the Shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack which punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy’s Defensive Line.

            In Baseball the object is to go home and be safe.

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            • Confirmed by the Indy Star:

              http://www.indystar.com/article/2009...+starting+line
              Originally posted by George Carlin

              In Football the object is for the Field General to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the Defence by hitting his Receivers with deadly accuracy, in spite of the Blitz, even if he has to use the Shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack which punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy’s Defensive Line.

              In Baseball the object is to go home and be safe.

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              • I stand corrected then. I don't get it though, especially as everything we were hearing was Ugoh having a really good camp so far?
                Pugnacity, testosterone, truculence, and belligerence.

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                • This BETTER be for disciplinary reasons only, and temporary.

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                  • Oh my goodness. I think I'm gonna be sick. :/

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                    Originally posted by killxswitch
                    Bill Polian is cancer wrapped in AIDS delivered in an XXL enema so please don't expect me to disagree with you.

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                    • PS eligible players

                      Here are who I deduce to be the PS eligible players, excluding anyone drafted before the 5th round of the Draft this year:

                      QB Curtis Painter
                      QB Chris Crane
                      RB Mike Hart
                      RB Lance Ball
                      RB Walter Mendenhall
                      WR Taj Smith
                      WR Samuel Giguere
                      WR Brett McDermott
                      WR John Matthews
                      TE Tom Santi
                      OL Jaimie Thomas
                      OL Kyle DeVan
                      DE Curtis Johnson
                      DE Rudolph Hardie
                      DT Adrian Grady
                      DT John Gill
                      LB Mike Tauiliili
                      LB Ramon Humber
                      CB Jacob Lacey
                      DB Travis Key
                      P Pat McAfee

                      Obviously, anyone not on the above list is either a rookie drafted in the first four rounds of the 09 Draft, or is not PS eligible as far as I am aware.
                      Last edited by Geo; 08-17-2009, 09:46 PM.
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                      • New 53-man roster, I planned on waiting until after the second preseason game to give it a go.


                        Offense (23)

                        QB/3- Peyton Manning, Jim Sorgi, Curtis Painter

                        RB/4 - Joseph Addai, Donald Brown, Mike Hart, Lance Ball

                        WR/4 - Reggie Wayne, Anthony Gonzalez, Austin Collie, Pierre Garcon

                        TE/4 - Dallas Clark, Jacob Tamme, Gijon Robinson, Tom Santi

                        OL/8 - Charlie Johnson, Ryan Lilja, Jeff Saturday, Mike Pollak, Ryan Diem, Tony Ugoh, Jamey Richard, Dan Federkeil


                        Defense (27)

                        DE/5 - Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Raheem Brock, Marcus Howard, Curtis Johnson

                        DT/5 - Ed Johnson, Daniel Muir, Fili Moala, Terrance Taylor, Eric Foster

                        LB/6 - Clint Session, Philip Wheeler, Gary Brackett, Adam Seward, Ramon Humber, Jordan Senn

                        CB/6 - Kelvin Hayden, Marlin Jackson, Tim Jennings, Jerraud Powers, Dante Hughes, TJ Rushing

                        S/5 - Bob Sanders, Antoine Bethea, Melvin Bullitt, Jamie Silva, Matt Giordano


                        Special Teams (3)

                        Adam Vinatieri, Pat McAfee, Justin Snow


                        Practice Squad (8)

                        CB Jacob Lacey and DT Adrian Grady for sure.
                        OL Jaimie Thomas if he doesn't make the roster.
                        Need at least one linebacker, so LB Michael Tauiliili.
                        Can we keep all four WRs? Taj Smith, Samuel Giguere, Brett McDermott, and John Matthews.


                        Notes:

                        1. I only put Lance Ball in because Hart hurt his ankle last night and we don't know the extent of it (other than Hart can't seem to stay healthy). But I don't think Ball is anything special at all, he'd be okay on the practice squad.

                        2. No Mookie because he's too slow and gets no push off the line, just like last year except then the Colts had no other options at NT. Daniel Muir has improved plus he is quick and strong. It would be nice to have Mookie against Jacksonville with Ed Johnson suspended, but that's a luxury.
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                        • Yeah, I like that roster, Geo.

                          The only gripes I have is that I would like another WR (Giguere) and another OT (Toudouze). But I have no idea who to replace.

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                          • Offense

                            QB - Peyton Manning, Jim Sorgi, Curtis Painter
                            RB - Joseph Addai, Donald Brown, Mike Hart, Lance Ball
                            WR - Reggie Wayne, Anthony Gonzalez, Pierre Garçon, Austin Collie
                            TE - Dallas Clark, Gijon Robinson, Jacob Tamme, Tom Santi
                            OT - Ryan Diem, Charlie Johnson, Tony Ugoh
                            OG - Ryan Lilja, Mike Pollak, Jamey Richard
                            OC - Jeff Saturday, Steve Justice

                            Defense

                            DE - Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Raheem Brock, Keyunta Dawson, Marcus Howard, Curtis Johnson
                            DT - Ed Johnson, Antonio Johnson, Fili Moala, Eric Foster, Terrance Taylor
                            LB - Gary Brackett, Clint Session, Philip Wheeler, Freddie Keiaho, Jordan Senn, Tyjuan Hagler
                            CB - Kelvin Hayden, Marlin Jackson, Tim Jennings, Jerraud Powers, T. J. Rushing
                            S - Bob Sanders, Antoine Bethea, Melvin Bullitt, Matt Giordano, Jamie Silva

                            Special Teams

                            K - Adam Vinatieri
                            P - Pat McAfee
                            LS - Justin Snow

                            Practice Squad

                            Samuel Gigučre - WR
                            Brett McDermott - WR
                            Colin Cloherty - TE
                            Jaimie Thomas - OG
                            Rudolph Hardie - DE
                            Adrian Grady - DT
                            Mike Tauiliili - LB
                            Jacob Lacey - CB

                            I think there are two Roster spots for either Painter, Ball and Gigučre, with the loser of the three being named to the Practice Squad. Lance Ball is currently ahead of Gigučre, who is still coming back to full fitness, while Painter has been impressive, in my opinion. Lance Ball was given a lot of chances last night but didn't really impress me. He needs to do more but with injuries to Chad Simpson and Mike Hart both being hurt he will be given more chances to prove himself.

                            The Tight End situation became more complex last night. Jacob Tamme was very impressive last night, while Gijon Robinson and Santi have both been injured recently. While Tamme was impressive I do question his blocking abilities and so he won't necessarialy fit in as a H-Back.

                            I believe that of the 8 Offensive Linemen, 7 of them (Diem, Johnson, Ugoh, Lilja, Pollak, Richard & Saturday) are certs for their Roster spots. There is probably only 1 left over, with three players potentially able to win it. Dan Federkeil is good Offensive Linemen but I feel he has achieved his potential. I don't think that he has much upside, something that both Steve Justice and Jaimie Thomas. Thomas needs to drop weight and is very well placed to do so in the Practice Squad. That means it is a straight up contest between Dan Federkeil and Steve Justice. I feel here in 2009 Federkeil is the better player than Justice, but I also believe that Justice is the more naturally talented of the two and has better upside.

                            At Defensive End there is a straight battle between Keyunta Dawson and Curtis Johnson. Keyunta Dawson, in my opinion, gets a lot of bad press because of how he played last year. He was our premier Defensive Tackle, despite being only 1 year veteran and a 260 DE. Dawson won't play tackle this year and so I feel we shouldn't be guaging him on his performances last year. Especially with Raheem Brock being a doubt for Week 1, and the other Defensive Ends on the Roster being pure Pass Rushers, I feel we should keep Dawson in there to shore up the D-Line against the Run on 1st and 2nd down.

                            Defensive Tackle will give Jim Caldwell a selection headache. I think both the Rookies are pretty safe, while Ed Johnson has impressed me enough this offseason to not only make the Roster but be the starter at either the 3 Tech or the Nose. Eric Foster is the most versatile of our Defenisve Tackles, as he can play Tackle, End, Special Teams and has contributed in the Dan Klecko fullback role on the Offense. We need to see what he's like in a game situation, get a real 3rd and short in the Preseason to really evaluate him but I will go out on a limb and give him a roster spot. The last spot is that 2 Down NT and it is a toss up between Antonio Johnson and Daniel Muir. With Terrance Taylor on the Roster we can't bring in both. While Muir has impressed me this offseason and has considerably closed the gap between him and Johnson I still fell that we would be better with Johnson.

                            Linebacker is an interesting one. The team seem to be moving forward with the Starters, with Wheeler especially impressing me so far. The backups cause problems. Even though I opted to do it I have concerns about brining in 7 LBs. It seems a bit of overkill. The two backups I feel should make the roster above the others are Keiaho, who is the most versatile and can backup all three of the LB ositions, and Senn, a quality Special Teams contributor. Seward has impressed me enough to warrant a spot as well and so if there are only going to be 6 Linebackers then I feel that Hagler is the one who should be cut.

                            Obviously Seward didn't impress either Caldwell or Coyer and has since been cut. I have amended my 53, and replaced Seward with Curtis Johnson.

                            Cornerback is a solid position, though I do have concerns over the injuries they seem to be sustaining. Tampa 2 Cornerbacks are expected to be over physical in comparison to other systems and I do worry about the durability. That being said we may have uncovered a special wee player in Powers. The starters are good, Jennings isn't as bad as even I have called him to be, Powers could be a good one, and I have brought in T.J. purely as a Return man. Chad Simpson got hurt and has been poor as the Return man, Garcon is focusing more on the Offense and no one else has really stood up and said pick me. So Rushing almsot wins the Return job by default.

                            Safety is a real position of strength, but like Corner I do have concerns over the durability issues. I believe that Giordano is a very good Special Teams player (and possibly going to be this years Special Teams Captain) I do have concerns over his actual ability to play Safety. Bullitt is good enough to start for some teams in this league and Silva is a quality special teams player.

                            The only worry on the Specialist front is Vinatieri but I don't feel it will be a major issue.
                            Last edited by Seamus2602; 08-22-2009, 01:48 PM.
                            Originally posted by George Carlin

                            In Football the object is for the Field General to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the Defence by hitting his Receivers with deadly accuracy, in spite of the Blitz, even if he has to use the Shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack which punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy’s Defensive Line.

                            In Baseball the object is to go home and be safe.

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                            • Originally posted by Seamus2602 View Post
                              [Eric Foster is the most versatile of our Defenisve Tackles, as he can play Tackle, End, Special Teams and has contributed in the Dan Klecko fullback role on the Offense.
                              Did you see Eric Foster play Dawson's role in the Eagles game later in the game and do real well? Dawson struggles with containment at the end position. Eric Foster played DE at Rutgers, so he is our future version of Raheem Brock, I feel. I think he could be our Freeney breather at Right End while Brock, Mathis, and Howard man the Left End. CuJo has more upside than Dawson, plus can contribute at ST, so he stays over Dawson.

                              I do not like Marcus Howard in the 3-point stance for some reason. I feel that he is so much a Mathis clone without the Mathis spin moves. So what that does is if an O-lineman gets a jam on him off the 3-point stance, and he does not have the moves to spin away like Mathis does, he does not have the upper body strength to bull rush. He has 4.4 speed, they should use him in obvious passing downs with a head start as a stand up blitzer, IMO, to overcome his lack of Mathis like moves and reducing the chances for easier jams by NFL O-linemen due to his momentum. No offense to his capabilities but I know most NFL starting O-linemen would jam the heck out of him if he starts off a 3-point stance and would probably have about 50 lbs on him most of the time.

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                              • I can't say 100 percent, but I'm pretty sure Foster played DT at Rutgers, chad.
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