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  • Colts sign OT Adam Terry to 1 year deal

    Well, if there was any doubt that there was going to be a shift in OL philosophy this offseason, this erases it. Polian talked all year about how holding is being called differently now, and bemoaned the performance of the OL after the Super Bowl, and now we're seeing a shift in the type of personnel the team is bringing in for the OL. For this particular signing, I'm wondering if he's going to be tried as a OG or RT, and overall for the offseason, my question is can they find the type of LT that would work for the type of system they're trying to install? Would Tony Ugoh be that guy? Would the team go out, take a chance, and try to bring in Jared Gaither? Or is there someone in the draft the team sees as their LT of the future? The one thing I know from all of this is that this offseason just got really interesting.


    The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

    If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.

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    • Welcome back Dam!

      Yeah, OL is definitely the hot topic of Colts nation.

      Don't forget Gerald Cadogan also. Good size and athletic, although he was never a Road-Grader.

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      • Bears sign Tim Jennings

        http://twitter.com/caplannfl/status/10588966426

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        • There are rumors going around that the Colts are pursuing Marcus McNeill, OT for the Chargers. He is a pretty good LT. It would cost a 1st and a 3rd so I doubt it is true.

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          • Rumor it is

            Originally posted by killxswitch View Post
            There are rumors going around that the Colts are pursuing Marcus McNeill, OT for the Chargers. He is a pretty good LT. It would cost a 1st and a 3rd so I doubt it is true.
            It is a rumor at best, it was a bunch of BS.

            Plus, if we wanted Gaither by now, we would have had him. So, get ready for Saffold or Brown in round 1.:)

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            • Originally posted by chad72 View Post
              It is a rumor at best, it was a bunch of BS.

              Plus, if we wanted Gaither by now, we would have had him. So, get ready for Saffold or Brown in round 1.:)
              I'd rather see something like Hughes/Veldheer, but I wouldn't be completely disappointed by Brown. Saffold would make me scratch my head though.


              The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

              If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.

              <Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
              <Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge

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              • Originally posted by Dam8610 View Post
                I'd rather see something like Hughes/Veldheer, but I wouldn't be completely disappointed by Brown. Saffold would make me scratch my head though.
                I really don't know much about Veldheer. It's hard to see any of his on-field play. I haven't found any, anyway. I do like what I read about him. I definitely like Hughes though, I think he's a bit underrated right now.

                I would count the draft a win if we came out of it with one from each of the following categories:

                OL:
                Charles Brown (1st)
                Trent Williams (1st)
                Mike Iupati (1st)
                Jason Fox (2nd or later)
                Jared Veldheer (2nd or later)
                Vladimir Ducasse (2nd or later)
                Roger Saffold (2nd or later)

                DE:
                Brandon Graham (1st, unlikely)
                Jerry Hughes (1st or trade up for early 2nd)
                Jason Worilds (2nd or later)
                Greg Hardy (3rd or later)
                Arthur Moats (3rd or later)
                Alex Carrington (3rd or later)
                O'Brien Schofield (4th or later)
                Daniel Teo-Nesheim (5th or later)

                DT:
                Brian Price (1st or trade up for early 2nd)
                Jared Odrick (1st or trade up for early 2nd)
                Lamarr Houston (2nd)
                Arthur Jones (3rd or later)
                Geno Atkins (3rd or later)
                Vince Oghobaase (5th or later)

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                • Originally posted by killxswitch View Post
                  I really don't know much about Veldheer. It's hard to see any of his on-field play. I haven't found any, anyway. I do like what I read about him. I definitely like Hughes though, I think he's a bit underrated right now.

                  I would count the draft a win if we came out of it with one from each of the following categories:

                  OL:
                  Charles Brown (1st)
                  Trent Williams (1st)
                  Mike Iupati (1st)
                  Jason Fox (2nd or later)
                  Jared Veldheer (2nd or later)
                  Vladimir Ducasse (2nd or later)
                  Roger Saffold (2nd or later)

                  DE:
                  Brandon Graham (1st, unlikely)
                  Jerry Hughes (1st or trade up for early 2nd)
                  Jason Worilds (2nd or later)
                  Greg Hardy (3rd or later)
                  Arthur Moats (3rd or later)
                  Alex Carrington (3rd or later)
                  O'Brien Schofield (4th or later)
                  Daniel Teo-Nesheim (5th or later)

                  DT:
                  Brian Price (1st or trade up for early 2nd)
                  Jared Odrick (1st or trade up for early 2nd)
                  Lamarr Houston (2nd)
                  Arthur Jones (3rd or later)
                  Geno Atkins (3rd or later)
                  Vince Oghobaase (5th or later)
                  Do you think Iupati could play LT? If not, I'd rather see the team invest in OG later. Of the situations you've sort of laid out there, my ideal would be:

                  1) Graham/Hughes
                  2) Veldheer/Ducasse (both are small school guys with loads of potential, the Colts have a lot of success with those, see: Robert Mathis, Antoine Bethea, etc. Obviously the investment risk is higher here, but so is the need)
                  3) Atkins/Jones

                  That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Colts completely ignore one of DE or DT and go with an OT and OG in the first 3 rounds, and I'd actually be quite happy with it as it would likely take care of the OL for the foreseeable future.


                  The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

                  If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.

                  <Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
                  <Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge

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                  • Originally posted by Dam8610 View Post
                    Do you think Iupati could play LT? If not, I'd rather see the team invest in OG later. Of the situations you've sort of laid out there, my ideal would be:

                    1) Graham/Hughes
                    2) Veldheer/Ducasse (both are small school guys with loads of potential, the Colts have a lot of success with those, see: Robert Mathis, Antoine Bethea, etc. Obviously the investment risk is higher here, but so is the need)
                    3) Atkins/Jones

                    That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Colts completely ignore one of DE or DT and go with an OT and OG in the first 3 rounds, and I'd actually be quite happy with it as it would likely take care of the OL for the foreseeable future.
                    No, I don't think Iupati will ever play tackle, at least not on the left side. I do think he'd be a huge help to our run game. He would not be my first choice of OLman but I think we could do worse.

                    If the Colts went OLx2 and DE I would be fine with that. I think it is critical the Colts pick up a 3rd edge rusher though. The DTs we have now can be upgraded but are fine overall. But we cannot let another postseason die because Freeney gets hurt.

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                    • So many ways BP can go

                      We have lost 3 out of 6 CBs and added Terrail Lambert, I don't even know who he is and how good he is, maybe PS material???

                      We invested in John Chick, CFL MVP, mainly for the situational pass rushing, his scouting report sounds so much like Mathis. Brock is gone and most likely Eric Foster is the run down DE, IMO, who will play more snaps and move into Brock's role. We also signed Mitch King. So I would be very surprised if BP goes DE in round 1 unless Everson Griffen drops to us. With so many 3-4 teams, Griffen and Hughes could be gone.

                      I love Devin McCourty, he screams scheme fit but then his stock has gone up enough that I doubt he will be there. Maurkice Pouncey's stock is just high enough that the Vikings might go for him. Eagles and Jets are eyeing Jerry Hughes closely. Brandon Graham will not get past the Falcons, if he ever drops.

                      Looking at all of this, Charles Brown, Rodger Saffold, Kareem Jackson - one of them is very likely going to be there for our pick. Another kicker, if the Bengals (taking safety Taylor Mays over Gresham), the Patriots (taking Sergio Kindle over Gresham), the Ravens (taking CB McCourty over Gresham), all of whom need TE pass on him, I wonder what BP will do.

                      My sleeper pick for round 1 is Kareem Jackson, a CB that puts in film time and has played good competition, he is rising up draft boards and is a top of round 2 to late round 1 pick, just in our ballpark. SEC, Big East, ACC, Big Ten - those 4 have primarily been the conferences Polian has got his first round pick from. Rob Morris was the rare exception (even Ugoh that BP gave a round 1 pick for was from the SEC). Based on that and the likelihood of players being available at our pick, Saffold or Kareem Jackson.

                      My sleeper pick is Kareem Jackson of Alabama.


                      I can see a draft like this:

                      Round 1 - Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama
                      Round 2 - Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale
                      Round 3 - Daniel Teo' Nesheim, DE, Washington
                      Round 4 - Arthur Jones, DT, Syracuse
                      Round 5 - Alterraun Verner, CB, UCLA
                      Round 7 (pick 1): A.J.Edds, OLB, Iowa
                      Round 7 (pick 2): LeRoy Vann, KR/PR/CB, Florida A & M
                      Round 7 (pick 3): Jeff Byers, C, USC (BP likes to get an O-lineman at the end of the draft recently)
                      Last edited by chad72; 04-13-2010, 09:45 PM.

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                      • I really can't believe Polian would pick a CB when at the least the two starting spots are locked up. With Lacey's performance last year it's more likely CB1, CB2, and NB are already on the roster. Why pick a player in the first that probably won't even have a chance to start unless he is just an unbelievable value? The only player that IMO would fit that at #31 is Joe Haden, who will absolutely not be there.

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                        • Donald Brown wasn't really needed since we were replacing Rhodes

                          To be honest, did we really need Donald Brown, a first round pick, to replace Dominic Rhodes? We could have done with a 2nd or 3rd round RB, right? The problem was Addai was banged up too often and Mike Hart's future was uncertain. Hence the logic for that pick.

                          Polian thinks probably a year or two in advance too, what if Addai asks for too much, maybe???

                          One, Kelvin Hayden's performance was way too sub-par for me last year and I am giving him the benefit of doubt with injury. With Sanders always on the injured list, Bethea and Bullitt played through a lot of banged up situations. Our CBs were constantly banged up as well in a run happy division. Quality depth is needed at CB, not just round 3 or round 4 quantitative depth. I almost think it is a cinch that a CB will be drafted in round 1 or round 2, my bets are on round 1. Nickel CBs that can play on the outside as well, those kind of versatile CBs go down in quality considerably after round 2 in this draft.

                          When we needed a DT bad and RB not too badly, Polian went with RB first and DT next, thank god for Mookie and Muir since Moala has not stepped up quickly enough for us. Along those lines, we need OL bad and CB bad enough but not too badly, Polian goes CB and then OL next, just call it a gut prediction. I got Donald Brown right last year, we will see how this year plays out.

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                          • I think drafting Brown was a bad decision. I thought so last year and still do. So I hope you are wrong this year because I think it would be another bad decision to draft a CB in the 1st (other than Haden). Unless they're planning to cut Kelvin Hayden. He has definitely not been worth his contract so far.

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                            • Originally posted by chad72 View Post
                              To be honest, did we really need Donald Brown, a first round pick, to replace Dominic Rhodes? We could have done with a 2nd or 3rd round RB, right? The problem was Addai was banged up too often and Mike Hart's future was uncertain. Hence the logic for that pick.

                              Polian thinks probably a year or two in advance too, what if Addai asks for too much, maybe???

                              One, Kelvin Hayden's performance was way too sub-par for me last year and I am giving him the benefit of doubt with injury. With Sanders always on the injured list, Bethea and Bullitt played through a lot of banged up situations. Our CBs were constantly banged up as well in a run happy division. Quality depth is needed at CB, not just round 3 or round 4 quantitative depth. I almost think it is a cinch that a CB will be drafted in round 1 or round 2, my bets are on round 1. Nickel CBs that can play on the outside as well, those kind of versatile CBs go down in quality considerably after round 2 in this draft.

                              When we needed a DT bad and RB not too badly, Polian went with RB first and DT next, thank god for Mookie and Muir since Moala has not stepped up quickly enough for us. Along those lines, we need OL bad and CB bad enough but not too badly, Polian goes CB and then OL next, just call it a gut prediction. I got Donald Brown right last year, we will see how this year plays out.
                              The difference in that comparison being the Colts haven't invested $40+ million in Joseph Addai, they have invested that much in Hayden over 5 or 6 years, so I doubt they'll be looking to replace him anytime soon. Also, there are 3 CBs on the roster right now that have proven starting capability, and while those are the only 3 CBs on the roster as of now, you usually don't draft a #4 CB with a 1st round pick.


                              The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

                              If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.

                              <Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
                              <Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge

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                              • Originally posted by killxswitch View Post
                                I think drafting Brown was a bad decision. I thought so last year and still do. So I hope you are wrong this year because I think it would be another bad decision to draft a CB in the 1st (other than Haden). Unless they're planning to cut Kelvin Hayden. He has definitely not been worth his contract so far.
                                This is also year 1 of it. I think he deserves more than one injury plagued season before we start determining his worthiness of the contract he was given, especially considering that he played very well to earn that contract with this team.


                                The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

                                If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.

                                <Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
                                <Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge

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