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  • #31
    Originally posted by MaxV View Post
    Well, Derick Williams is certainly talented.

    But as of right now, his biggest weakness is what Bill Polian values the most in WR prospects, route running.
    Aromashodu's biggest knock coming into the league was route running, and look where he was last season. I think Marvin and Reggie could help a young receiver along tremendously in that aspect of their game.


    The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

    If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.

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    • #32
      Aromashodu is coming into his third year as a pro and with the Colts (he was a fixture all season on the practice squad in 2006), hopefully he's ready to break out. If Harrison is eased into the season or faces some sort of suspension, who knows, maybe that opens up an opportunity for Devin.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Geo View Post
        Out of curiosity, would you say Deon Butler is the better receiver?
        He was better in college, but he's not as talented as Williams.

        Butler has good speed, great hands and solid route running, but at 5'-9" 165lbs he's tiny.

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        • #34
          Oops

          Originally posted by tylerb929 View Post
          If you've played a season in the NFL you can't be on the practice squad. Which eliminates, Kenton Keith, Bryan Fletcher, Luke Lawton, Ramon Guzman, Charlie Johnson, and Jeff Charleston.
          I didn't know that. Thanks for the correction:) .

          Bryan Fletcher and Dylan Gandy got released. A lot of us would like Kenton Keith gone:) . So that takes three out of the picture, most likely. Last year DeDe Dorsey was beaten by both KK and Dawson out of the backup RB job. This year, I am hoping that Mike Hart and Chad Simpson do the same. But I still believe KK will be there for his run-the-clock-run-only capabilities.

          My updated depth chart would now be:

          QB(2) - Peyton Manning, Jim Sorgi

          RB(3) - Joseph Addai, Mike Hart, Kenton Keith

          WR(6) - Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Anthony Gonzalez, Roy Hall, Devin Aromashodu, Pierre Garcon

          TE(3) - Dallas Clark, Jacob Tamme, Tom Santi

          OT(4) - Tony Ugoh , Ryan Diem , Michael Toudouze, Charlie Johnson

          OG(3) - Ryan Lilja, Mike Pollak, Jamey Richard

          OC(2) - Jeff Saturday, Steve Justice

          DE(5) - Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Josh Thomas, Marcus Howard, Curtis Johnson

          DT(6) - Ed Johnson, Quinn Pitcock, Raheem Brock, Keyunta Dawson, Darrell Reid, Eric Foster

          LB(5) - Gary Brackett, Freddy Keiaho, Tyjuan Hagler, Phillip Wheeler, Clint Session

          CB(6) - Marlin Jackson, Kelvin Hayden, Dante Hughes, Michael Coe, Tim Jennings, TJ Rushing

          Safety(5) - Bob Sanders, Antoine Bethea, Matt Giordano, Melvin Bullitt, Jamie Silva

          ST(3) - Adam Vinatieri, Hunter Smith, Justin Snow
          Last edited by chad72; 05-05-2008, 08:35 AM.

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          • #35
            DeDe was beaten by Kenton Keith, not Dawson.

            They released by 3D and Dawson and kept KK and Lawton. Then later in the season, they added Dawson, because 3D made the Bengals team.

            We should've kept 3D. He's better then KK.

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            • #36
              DD was cut because he had a turf toe injury in one of the last preseason games, so he was gonna miss 4 or 5 weeks. They figured they couldn't wait that long, so they cut him. I'm not really sure that Keith beat him out, it may have been just the fact that we need a #2 RB for the first few weeks.

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              • #37
                Talking about PSU prospects, I'm VERY high on DT Jared Odrick.

                He's 6'-5" 295lbs with excellent athleticism for his size. He could be a great fit as either DE in the 3-4 system or 3-tech UT in 1-gap 4-3.

                He will be a Junior next season, so he might not enter the next draft. He also suffered a season-ending hand injury last year, which could be a red flag.

                Still, I wouldn't mind it at all if he winds up in Colts' uniform.

                PSU's other starting DT, Chris Baker, is very similar to our own Big Ed Johnson, both in terms of ability and off-field problems.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by tylerb929 View Post
                  DD was cut because he had a turf toe injury in one of the last preseason games, so he was gonna miss 4 or 5 weeks. They figured they couldn't wait that long, so they cut him. I'm not really sure that Keith beat him out, it may have been just the fact that we need a #2 RB for the first few weeks.
                  Did you go to camp? If you think Keith's hands were bad, you should've seen Dorsey's. I don't remember ever seeing him catch a ball during any drill.


                  The problem arises when people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support instead of illumination.

                  If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck.

                  <Add1ct> setting myself on fire can't be that hard
                  <Add1ct> but tackling a mosquito might prove a challenge

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                  • #39
                    Roy Hall, beast that he is, is reportedly looking good in camp. Position-wise, he says he's seeing a little slot work, but primarily is the #2 split end to Reggie Wayne and learning from the great pro.

                    Also, I dropped Jamie Silva for Ramon Guzman in my proj depth chart. I never liked having only 5 LBs, and hope the Colts can keep Silva on the practice squad for a year until Giordano leaves in FA next summer.
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                    • #40
                      Gijon Robinson likes being known as "blocking TE".

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                      • #41
                        I love the draft picks of Tamme and Santi (especially), so Robinson may be the odd man out. Although I respect his desire to compete and especially to make it as a blocking tight end, I think there's something to wanting to put an opponent on his ass on every play if he can. 255 lbs, he might be able to play some fullback and special teams too, which can help Gijon's cause.

                        Reading that article right now, Dungy praises Gijon's blocking and says that is his strong suit anyways, the development rests more on him as a receiving option. Good to hear.

                        Speaking of fullback, did you guys read the Luke Lawton article on Colts.com? Says he trying to get lighter by going down to 225-230 lbs. or thereabouts, to be a quicker back (he mentions running routes specifically) and special teamer. It's interesting, and could be a good move.
                        Last edited by Geo; 05-30-2008, 12:29 PM.
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                        • #42
                          Looks like we've got some fans out there, boys. :D :D :D

                          I always find it funny when what we brew here trickles down the internet.

                          *****

                          I was thinking of Eric Foster: even though he was undrafted, he's a perfect fit imo and I don't think I'd leave him off the roster at all. Even if it meant having to cut someone else, like say Darrell Reid. Really looking forward to seeing him play in the preseason.

                          Although if he does well and wins a roster spot, does that move Keyunta Dawson to DE? That could help Freeney on first and second downs, if Dawson saw some of those snaps.

                          Also, speaking on the DL, really looking forward to seeing Marcus Howard. If he gets enough snaps, he might be a pass-rushing terror. With a big year, like say Mark Anderson two years ago with the Bears (we'd all love to see it hopefully), he might be a sleeper DROY candidate.
                          Last edited by Geo; 06-13-2008, 10:39 AM.
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                          • #43
                            http://www.wane.com/Global/story.asp...nav=menu32_6_3

                            Colts trim 5 players from roster

                            Associated Press - June 16, 2008 1:34 PM ET

                            INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - Kicker Shane Andrus' annual tryout with the Indianapolis Colts has ended earlier than usual.

                            Andrus signed with the Colts for the third straight year in April but was 1 of 5 players released Monday, along with punter Chad Stanley, running back Justise Hairston, defensive tackle Dan Davis and center Pat Ross.

                            Andrus also was with the Colts in 2006 and 2007 but lasted until training camp both times. He signed with New York in January but was waived in February after the Super Bowl win over New England, and rejoined Indianapolis two weeks later.

                            The Colts open camp in Terre Haute on July 24.
                            Andrus needs to stick with a roster, he can play. A few teams should definitely give him a call.

                            Too bad about Hairston, I was hopeful about his prospects and looking forward to seeing him in the preseason.
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                            • #44
                              Let's Geo: Ryan Diem *Revised*

                              Let's Geo: Ryan Diem



                              Ryan Diem is easily the biggest player on the Colts' entire roster at 6' 6" and 320 lbs., who turned 29 years old the first of July this year. He normally gives the Colts' offensive line some run-mauling ability, and does a solid job in pass protection for a right tackle.

                              Diem can be an above average if not good right tackle when healthy, but he has been a bit dinged up the last few years. He hasn't started all 16 games since the 2004 season, last year he started only 10 games and missed the last 6 games of the season thanks to a knee injury. However let it be said that despite injuries suffered around the end of the regular season the last few years, Diem has never missed a postseason start in his career which began with the 2001 season.

                              Unfortunately, he currently has a penchant for one (sometimes boneheaded/costly) penalty every game it seems. Perhaps he took the mantle for that auspicious role from recently-retired Tarik Glenn.

                              In February 2005, the Colts signed Diem to a 7-year, $36M contract with around 12M guaranteed. So he is currently signed through 2011. Assuming the salary breakdowns at Coltscap.net are correct ...


                              Here are the Colts' options
                              • If the Colts cut Diem after this '08 season, cap-wise they are on the hook for 3.4M in remaining bonus money. Specifically 2.3M in '09 and 1.1M in '10.
                              • If the Colts keep Diem for the '09 season, they still pay the 3.4M, but also will get another year of Diem starting at his '09 base salary of 3.75M.
                              • If the Colts cut Diem after the '09 season, they will be on the hook for 1.1M remaining that season and nothing afterwards. However if they keep Diem for the '10 season, they get another year of him starting at his '10 base salary of 3.85M.
                              • Diem's final season ('11) has no allocated bonus money remaining, however a base salary of 5.4M.

                              Code:
                              cut Diem  |      Colts pay (cap-wise)
                              after     |      2009     2010    2011
                              2008             2.3      1.1     0
                              2009             6.05     1.1     0
                              2010             6.05     4.95    0
                              2011*            6.05     4.95    5.4
                              
                              *Diem's contract runs through 2011.

                              Summary

                              Keeping Diem through '09 is probably reasonable. Maybe 2010 too if he is playing well and staying reasonable healthy, although it could very well be more prudent at that point to pay him 1.1M as a released player and use the 3.85M elsewhere on the roster.
                              Last edited by Geo; 11-12-2008, 12:23 AM.
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                              • #45
                                Updated to reflect Michael Coe going on injured reserve, which probably opens up a roster spot for veteran corner Keiwan Ratliff to make the team.

                                I like wide receiver Devin Aromashodu, but I think tight end Gijon Robinson could get the nod over him. I feel comfortable going into the season with five wide receivers, which is really six if you count Dallas Clark and maybe seven with Tamme.
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