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  • #61
    Saints proved it wrong

    Originally posted by Seamus2602 View Post
    If we bring in better run blockers then we lose some of Manning's protection.
    The Saints, with their Pro Bowl guards, just proved to me that you can get adequate protection for a QB even if you are in the 330 lb range. If they can protect Brees, who holds on to the ball a tad longer than Manning, I am sure the Colts can make it work with Manning easily.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by chad72 View Post
      The Saints, with their Pro Bowl guards, just proved to me that you can get adequate protection for a QB even if you are in the 330 lb range. If they can protect Brees, who holds on to the ball a tad longer than Manning, I am sure the Colts can make it work with Manning easily.
      One of the Saints Guards is an All-Pro and the other is one of the major Offensive Line draft steals of the last couple of years. It is easier said than done to find a player of either Evans or Nicks ability without giving up a significantly high pick, and Polian has already siad he isn't as good at projecting Offensive Line guys as he is other positions. I could see us going for a Guard in the 2nd or 3rd Round this year and he will be bigger than normal but not 330lb. I expect more along the lines of 310, heavier than normal for a Colts Guard but still mobile enough to pick up the Pass Rush and get to the outside and second level on runs.
      Originally posted by George Carlin

      In Football the object is for the Field General to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the Defence by hitting his Receivers with deadly accuracy, in spite of the Blitz, even if he has to use the Shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack which punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy’s Defensive Line.

      In Baseball the object is to go home and be safe.

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      • #63
        Our OLmen aren't even that good in pass protection. I'd say bring in some maulers who can open up running lanes for more than 1 second. It's Manning's quick release that protects him moreso than the OL's pass protection skills.

        If Polian is bad at picking OLmen he should have someone else do it. 5 OL picks in the last 3 drafts and they barely get any playing time.

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        • #64
          I made a long post on another forum but I might as well post it here:

          There are a few positions like QB, RB, and WR that I think the Colts can safely ignore unless the value is just unbelievable. Beyond that, depth can be improved across the board. If it were me I would look at OL and DL first but if the Colts selected a high-value LB or DB I wouldn't be too upset.

          When your team is already built to win the SB with no major weaknesses you can pick based largely on BPA, which is what Polian likes to say he does anyway.

          Some good prospects in this draft that we (IMO) have a shot at are:

          TE: Rob Gronkowski (Arizona), Michael Hoomanawanui (Illinois), Nate Byham (Pittsburgh)
          OT: Vladimir Ducasse (Mass), Bruce Campbell (Maryland), Charles Brown (USC), Anthony Davis (Rutgers), Jared Veldheer (Hillsdale), Jason Fox (Miami FLA)
          OG/C: Jon Asamoah (Illinois), Maurkice Pouncey (Florida), Mike Johnson (Alabama), Sergio Render (VA Tech), John Jerry (Ole Miss)

          DE: Jason Pierre-Paul (South Florida), Brandon Graham (Michigan), Greg Hardy (Ole Miss), Jerry Hughes (TCU), Everson Griffen (Southern Cal), Alex Carrington (Arkansas State), Jermaine Cunningham (Florida), Koa Misi (Utah), O'Brien Schofield (Wisconsin), George Selvie (South Florida), Austen Lane (Murray State), Larry Hart (Central Arkansas), Arthur Moats (James Madison)
          DT: Brian Price (UCLA), Jared Odrick (Penn State), Arthur Jones (Syracuse), Geno Atkins (Georgia), Vince Oghobaase (Duke), D'Anthony Smith (Louisiana Tech), Lamarr Houston (Texas), Tyson Alualu (California), Cam Thomas (UNC)

          LB: Sean Weatherspoon (Missouri), Daryl Washington (TCU), Brandon Spikes (Florida), Navorro Bowman (Penn State), Pat Angerer (Iowa), Roddrick Muckelroy (Texas), Sean Lee (Penn State), Darryl Sharpton (Miami FLA)

          CB: Perrish Cox (Oklahoma), Donovan Warren (Michigan), Kareem Jackson (Alabama), Brandon Ghee (Wake Forest), Kyle Wilson (Boise State), Jerome Murphy (South Florida), Devin McCourty (Rutgers), Javier Arenas (Alabama), Akwasi Owusu-Ansah (Indiana PA), Patrick Stoudamire (Western Ill), Walter McFadden (Auburn)

          S: Taylor Mays (USC), Chad Jones (LSU), Nate Allen (South Florida), Reshad Jones (Georgia), Myron Lewis (Vanderbilt), Larry Assante (Nebraska), Myron Rolle (FSU)

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          • #65
            Great draft for UTs

            If we cannot get a UT in this draft, I don't know when we will. Brian Price, Jared Odrick, Tyson Alualu, Geno Atkins, and LaMarr Houston - the first 2 rounds will be loaded with these high motor talents and we need that presence in the middle to push the pocket.

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            • #66
              There is also several talented OTs in this draft. Although there is no chance of Anthony Davis falling to us.

              O-Line should definitely be a priority for this draft. I will be disappointed if Polian and Caldwell decide to leave the O-Line as it is. We can definitely upgrade it.

              More play-makers on D are also needed and in all 3 parts (DL, LB and secondary).

              Do we have a lot of urgent needs? No. But we do have several positions where upgrades could be made and we also have several starters that could potentially be leaving.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by MaxV View Post
                There is also several talented OTs in this draft. Although there is no chance of Anthony Davis falling to us.

                O-Line should definitely be a priority for this draft. I will be disappointed if Polian and Caldwell decide to leave the O-Line as it is. We can definitely upgrade it.

                More play-makers on D are also needed and in all 3 parts (DL, LB and secondary).

                Do we have a lot of urgent needs? No. But we do have several positions where upgrades could be made and we also have several starters that could potentially be leaving.
                You could be right about Davis, I don't have a good feel for where he'll go yet. I think with Polians comments about the OL playing a bad game in the SB would indicate they're going to try to draft OL again. Hopefully it works better this time than last time.

                If we come out of this draft with some OL, a DE that can rush the passer, and maybe a KR/PR, it will be a success IMO.

                And I agree, a UT in this draft should be possible. There's a ton of that talent.

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                • #68
                  My mock draft

                  1st round: Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers (good zone corner, very capable of man coverage, very willing in run support and tackles well, physical in nature and has done returns too) - have a suspicion Brandon Graham and Jason Pierre Paul will be gone by the time we pick at #31

                  2nd round: Roger Saffold, OT, Indiana (excellent feet, great prospect, very versatile)

                  3rd round: Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia (disruptive UT, pocket penetrator) - I am hoping he is here

                  4th round: A.J. Edds, OLB, Iowa (very good in space and coverage, tackles well, plays best outside)

                  5th round: E.J. Wilson, DE, North Carolina (more bulkier DE than we have had around 289 lbs, might be what we need, can be UT on passing downs too if needed in rotation in case of injuries)

                  5th round compensatory pick for Hunter Smith: Nate Byham, TE, Pittsburgh (very good blocking TE that had great pass catching production the previous season and played more blocking TE this last season)

                  7th round: Andre Neblett, DT, Temple (at 6'0", 297 lbs, is very athletic, played NT in a 3-4 but is way too little to play NT in a 3-4 at the next level, he is being prospected as a 3 technique, along the same lines as Fili Moala and Tyson Alualu who played DE in a 3-4)

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                  • #69
                    Indianapolis Colts - 2010 NFL Draft


                    1st Round – 31st Overall – Jermaine Gresham – Tight End – Senior – Oklahoma Sooners


                    Alright, I know I’m going to take some flak for this one but don’t doubt the possibility. There has been increased talk that Bill Polian maybe targeting a Tight End. It makes more sense than targeting another high Defensive Tackle (Polian rarely takes Defensive Tackles high) and drafting someone like Price will basically declare the team are finished with the Moala experiment. Similarly, Polian doesn’t normally draft Offensive Linemen that high (and when he does draft them high it comes back to bite him in the ass, like Ugoh and Pollak). One thing you can normally count on Bill Polian doing with the team’s first round pick is an offensive skill position. The team love playing the two Tight End set. It opens up room in the run game but also provides good pass catching options. Gresham would be a significant upgrade in run blocking compared to Robinson, Santi or Tamme, never mind his unbelievable pass catching skills. Having Gresham would improve the passing ability of the two Tight End set, the play action in the two Tight End set and runs to the left hand side of the two Tight End set, not to mention the ability to spell Clark as he gets older.

                    2nd Round – 63rd Overall – Jason Fox – Offensive Tackle – Senior – Miami Hurricanes


                    Jason Fox may have to move to Right Tackle in the pros but in the mean time we will assess him as a Left Tackle prospect. He has the agility to beat the defender to the edge and has quick, active hands that he uses well to control the defender when he keeps his feet moving. He bends at the knees and has the strength to anchor against the bull-rush, which was a key problem for Tony Ugoh. Fox is a solid pass blocker who reacts efficiently and correctly to the surprising blitz and loop. He will have to prove that he can play Left Tackle and if he can he will be an improvement on Charlie Johnson's pass blocking skills. In run blocking Fox is strong enough to turn his opponent, but isn't a road grader that can consistently drive his opponent off the ball. He is very good at setting the edge and is good at engaging blocks in space. He will be a massive improvement over Charlie Johnson in the run game. Fox is an intelligent, quick Offensive Tackle. He does have some durability concerns but was able to play through a number of injuries in college, which will be a welcome change from Tony Ugoh. Fox may be a year away from becoming a fully fledged starter and so the team should tender Charlie Johnson.

                    3rd Round – 95th Overall – Torrell Troup – Defensive Tackle – Senior – UCF Knights


                    Troop is a very strong player and will be primarily used as a nose tackle. Troop uses a low centre of gravity and thick upper body to gain leverage and is quick and powerful off the snap, penetrating easily against man-up blocks. He can stand his ground against single and double blocks using his girth and strength and is able to get to the ball carrier through a lot of traffic. He is mostly a bull rusher when asked to pass rush but won't be used heavily to next year. With Mookie and Dan Muir's contracts both being up this gives the team the ability to replace them with someone with a hardworking, consistent run stopper.

                    4th Round – 130th Overall – Akwasi Owusu-Ansah – Cornerback – Senior – IUP Crimson Hawks


                    My biggest problem with Owusu-Ansah is that I have no idea whatsoever has to how to pronounce his name. Owusu-Ansah is a Division II prospect but has the talent to make a number of teams willing the pull the trigger on him. He will do very well in a zone coverage system. He has the speed, burst, size and fluency to excel in the Cover 2. He developed into a bit of a ball hawk at IUP and is a threat to take it to the house on interceptions (scoring two defensive touchdowns on ten interceptions). A big plus for the Colts is that he is a dynamic Return Specialist. Owusu-Ansah scored seven return touchdowns (three kickoff returns and four punt returns) in his college career. Owusu-Ansah would be a big upgrade over Chad Simpson in the return game and will slot in very well as the Dime Cornerback.

                    5th Round – 162nd Overall – Zane Beadles – Offensive Guard – Redshirted Senior – Utah Utes


                    Beadles played mostly as at Left Tackle in College but most scouts doubt he has either the height or the athleticism to play Left Tackle in the Pros. He is very good in pass blocking, setting up his blocks quickly, with solid footwork and smooth lateral movement. He has good awareness against Safety and Linebacker blitzes but may struggle against the larger Nose Tackles the NFL have to offer. He isn't solid in run blocking but does have some good tools to use and would be an improvement over Kyle DeVan. He gets very low on his man, helping him to drive his opponent backward. He fits the Colts style of Offensive Linemen, being quick, solid in pass protection and intelligent. He is probably a year or so from contributing in the NFL though as he took the majority of his snaps from the two point stance and will need to adjust.

                    7th Round – 234th Overall – Aaron Pettrey – Placekicker – Redshirted Senior – Ohio State Buckeyes


                    Pettrey has very good leg strength, making 50+ yard field goals without losing a lot of trajectory because of his height and upright kicking style. He doesn't suffer from a lot of drift on his kicks. He strikes the ball well but will need to speed up his setup at the next level. He has generally been pretty accurate and has made clutch kicks in bowl games.

                    Compensatory Pick – 245th Overall – Danny Batten – Defensive End – Red Shirted Senior – South Dakota State Jackrabbits


                    Batten's work ethic, versatility, strength and hustle endear him to NFL teams and he will provide very good depth and the ability to make plays on Special Teams. Batten has a surprising mixture of speed (he has the second fastest projected 40 time amongst Defensive Ends in the draft), strength and effort. He doesn't have very good pass rushing skills and most of his pressure comes from effort but he will provide good depth at Defensive End, mostly because he is also solid in the run game. He has a strong ability to disengage blocks and can hit his gap with authority.
                    Last edited by Seamus2602; 02-24-2010, 07:40 PM.
                    Originally posted by George Carlin

                    In Football the object is for the Field General to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the Defence by hitting his Receivers with deadly accuracy, in spite of the Blitz, even if he has to use the Shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack which punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy’s Defensive Line.

                    In Baseball the object is to go home and be safe.

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                    • #70
                      My take on your draft

                      Originally posted by Seamus2602 View Post
                      Indianapolis Colts - 2010 NFL Draft


                      1st Round – 31st Overall – Jermaine Gresham – Tight End – Senior – Oklahoma Sooners


                      Alright, I know I’m going to take some flak for this one but don’t doubt the possibility. There has been increased talk that Bill Polian maybe targeting a Tight End. It makes more sense than targeting another high Defensive Tackle (Polian rarely takes Defensive Tackles high) and drafting someone like Price will basically declare the team are finished with the Moala experiment. Similarly, Polian doesn’t normally draft Offensive Linemen that high (and when he does draft them high it comes back to bite him in the ass, like Ugoh and Pollak). One thing you can normally count on Bill Polian doing with the team’s first round pick is an offensive skill position. The team love playing the two Tight End set. It opens up room in the run game but also provides good pass catching options. Gresham would be a significant upgrade in run blocking compared to Robinson, Santi or Tamme, never mind his unbelievable pass catching skills. Having Gresham would improve the passing ability of the two Tight End set, the play action in the two Tight End set and runs to the left hand side of the two Tight End set, not to mention the ability to spell Clark as he gets older.

                      2nd Round – 63rd Overall – Jason Fox – Offensive Tackle – Senior – Miami Hurricanes


                      Jason Fox may have to move to Right Tackle in the pros but in the mean time we will assess him as a Left Tackle prospect. He has the agility to beat the defender to the edge and has quick, active hands that he uses well to control the defender when he keeps his feet moving. He bends at the knees and has the strength to anchor against the bull-rush, which was a key problem for Tony Ugoh. Fox is a solid pass blocker who reacts efficiently and correctly to the surprising blitz and loop. He will have to prove that he can play Left Tackle and if he can he will be an improvement on Charlie Johnson's pass blocking skills. In run blocking Fox is strong enough to turn his opponent, but isn't a road grader that can consistently drive his opponent off the ball. He is very good at setting the edge and is good at engaging blocks in space. He will be a massive improvement over Charlie Johnson in the run game. Fox is an intelligent, quick Offensive Tackle. He does have some durability concerns but was able to play through a number of injuries in college, which will be a welcome change from Tony Ugoh. Fox may be a year away from becoming a fully fledged starter and so the team should tender Charlie Johnson.

                      3rd Round – 95th Overall – Torrell Troup – Defensive Tackle – Senior – UCF Knights


                      Troop is a very strong player and will be primarily used as a nose tackle. Troop uses a low centre of gravity and thick upper body to gain leverage and is quick and powerful off the snap, penetrating easily against man-up blocks. He can stand his ground against single and double blocks using his girth and strength and is able to get to the ball carrier through a lot of traffic. He is mostly a bull rusher when asked to pass rush but won't be used heavily to next year. With Mookie and Dan Muir's contracts both being up this gives the team the ability to replace them with someone with a hardworking, consistent run stopper.

                      4th Round – 130th Overall – Akwasi Owusu-Ansah – Cornerback – Senior – IUP Crimson Hawks


                      My biggest problem with Owusu-Ansah is that I have no idea whatsoever has to how to pronounce his name. Owusu-Ansah is a Division II prospect but has the talent to make a number of teams willing the pull the trigger on him. He will do very well in a zone coverage system. He has the speed, burst, size and fluency to excel in the Cover 2. He developed into a bit of a ball hawk at IUP and is a threat to take it to the house on interceptions (scoring two defensive touchdowns on ten interceptions). A big plus for the Colts is that he is a dynamic Return Specialist. Owusu-Ansah scored seven return touchdowns (three kickoff returns and four punt returns) in his college career. Owusu-Ansah would be a big upgrade over Chad Simpson in the return game and will slot in very well as the Dime Cornerback.

                      5th Round – 162nd Overall – Zane Beadles – Offensive Guard – Redshirted Senior – Utah Utes


                      Beadles played mostly as at Left Tackle in College but most scouts doubt he has either the height or the athleticism to play Left Tackle in the Pros. He is very good in pass blocking, setting up his blocks quickly, with solid footwork and smooth lateral movement. He has good awareness against Safety and Linebacker blitzes but may struggle against the larger Nose Tackles the NFL have to offer. He isn't solid in run blocking but does have some good tools to use and would be an improvement over Kyle DeVan. He gets very low on his man, helping him to drive his opponent backward. He fits the Colts style of Offensive Linemen, being quick, solid in pass protection and intelligent. He is probably a year or so from contributing in the NFL though as he took the majority of his snaps from the two point stance and will need to adjust.

                      7th Round – 234th Overall – Aaron Pettrey – Placekicker – Redshirted Senior – Ohio State Buckeyes


                      Pettrey has very good leg strength, making 50+ yard field goals without losing a lot of trajectory because of his height and upright kicking style. He doesn't suffer from a lot of drift on his kicks. He strikes the ball well but will need to speed up his setup at the next level. He has generally been pretty accurate and has made clutch kicks in bowl games.

                      Compensatory Pick – 245th Overall – Danny Batten – Defensive End – Red Shirted Senior – South Dakota State Jackrabbits


                      Batten's work ethic, versatility, strength and hustle endear him to NFL teams and he will provide very good depth and the ability to make plays on Special Teams. Batten has a surprising mixture of speed (he has the second fastest projected 40 time amongst Defensive Ends in the draft), strength and effort. He doesn't have very good pass rushing skills and most of his pressure comes from effort but he will provide good depth at Defensive End, mostly because he is also solid in the run game. He has a strong ability to disengage blocks and can hit his gap with authority.
                      I do not think Gresham will be available at No.31, either the Patriots (due to Ben Watson's uncertainty or declining TE production) or the Ravens (due to Todd Heap's age) will pull the trigger on him. If he does fall, it is a no brainer to me but I just do not think it will happen. Second, the kind of DT the Colts need is the pass rushing disruptive kind, a UT - like a Brian Price, Jared Odrick, Tyson Alualu, Geno Atkins, not another run stopping NT kind unless that NT has ungodly pass rush skills. I highly doubt that both AJ & Muir will be gone since Polian will offer good tenders for both of them, and surprisingly, run stopping was not our issue last year, pass rush from the DT position was our issue. Plus, Fili Moala that we are developing was also assessed to be more of a run stopper than pass rusher though he was drafted to be UT in our system (his pick was a head scratcher to me). So, we do not need another DT that is a run stopper early in the draft, I can see one later in the draft or an UDFA, just not the first 4 rounds, I see more of the pass rushing UT in the first few rounds.

                      If we had played balanced offensive teams like the Chargers in full strength in the playoffs, chances are, we don't get past them due to our pass rush deficiency in the middle.

                      I am surprised you have Polian picking up no linebacker on day 2. With Wheeler being just average and Hagler not getting through a season uninjured, our weakside LB corp does need help.
                      Last edited by chad72; 02-25-2010, 11:47 AM.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by chad72 View Post
                        I do not think Gresham will be available at No.31, either the Patriots (due to Ben Watson's uncertainty or declining TE production) or the Ravens (due to Todd Heap's age) will pull the trigger on him. If he does fall, it is a no brainer to me but I just do not think it will happen.
                        I really can't see the Patriots going for Gresham. Patriots have needs at RB, WR, multiple O-Line positions, 5 Tech, NT, ILB, rush LB and CB. TE would be a luxury pick for them. I also think the Ravens have more pressing needs to address, especially at WR, and there is a good chance that they will hold off and not take Gresham.

                        Originally posted by chad72 View Post
                        Second, the kind of DT the Colts need is the pass rushing disruptive kind, a UT - like a Brian Price, Jared Odrick, Tyson Alualu, Geno Atkins, not another run stopping NT kind unless that NT has ungodly pass rush skills. I highly doubt that both AJ & Muir will be gone since Polian will offer good tenders for both of them, and surprisingly, run stopping was not our issue last year, pass rush from the DT position was our issue. Plus, Fili Moala that we are developing was also assessed to be more of a run stopper than pass rusher though he was drafted to be UT in our system (his pick was a head scratcher to me). So, we do not need another DT that is a run stopper early in the draft, I can see one later in the draft or an UDFA, just not the first 4 rounds, I see more of the pass rushing UT in the first few rounds.
                        When you draft a Defensive Tackle in the top 2 rounds you expect him to be able to do a bit of both. Moala rotated a lot on passing downs, spelling Eric Foster. His future with the team is at 3 Tech, not at Nose. And I just think that if we take a high 3 Tech, and resign both Mookie and Muir, then where does Moala get his snaps in? With Foster, Mookie, Muir, the new Rookie, as well as Brock and Dawson taking some snaps at DT, where does Fili Moala get his playing time. I think that if we draft a player in the top 2 rounds then we are basically saying that we are giving up on Moala. The fact of the matter remains that while we were much improved in run defense this season we were still 24th in the league in yards, mid table in yards per carry and 20th in runs giving up for first downs. We upgraded the run defense but lets not claim that there isn't significant room for improvment. I think we can improve our interior pass rush I just don't think Polian is going to move on it this year. He is going to give Moala another year.

                        Originally posted by chad72 View Post
                        "If we had played balanced offensive teams like the Chargers in full strength in the playoffs, chances are, we don't get past them due to our pass rush deficiency in the middle."
                        I agree that we need to improve the interior pass rush. I just don't think we are going to do it this year. Also it isn't the balanced offenses that cause problems with no interior rush. It is the teams with smart Quarterbacks who know to step up into the pocket, like say Drew Brees.

                        Originally posted by chad72 View Post
                        I am surprised you have Polian picking up no linebacker on day 2. With Wheeler being just average and Hagler not getting through a season uninjured, our weakside LB corp does need help.
                        Well firstly Hagler and Wheeler are Strongside Linebackers, not Weakside. Secondly I think Wheeler played pretty well in Hagler's absence. Thirdly, the SAM linebacker position is a relatively junior position for the Colts. The Colts took 1328 defensive snaps last season, and there was a SAM linebacker on the field for 720 of those snaps. So the SAMs only took about 55% of the snaps. I think between Hagler and a former third round pick that we have enough for a position taking 55% of the defensive snaps.
                        Originally posted by George Carlin

                        In Football the object is for the Field General to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the Defence by hitting his Receivers with deadly accuracy, in spite of the Blitz, even if he has to use the Shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack which punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy’s Defensive Line.

                        In Baseball the object is to go home and be safe.

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                        • #72
                          I REALLY want one of Bruce Campbell, Jason Fox, Jared Veldheer, Rodger Saffold or Jon Asamoah to be Colt. Maybe even multiple of those.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by MaxV View Post
                            I REALLY want one of Bruce Campbell, Jason Fox, Jared Veldheer, Rodger Saffold or Jon Asamoah to be Colt. Maybe even multiple of those.
                            There was some talk on PFW.com (I think that's where it was anyway) that the Colts might be trending away from the smaller, quicker linemen that they've gone after in the past. That was supposedly Mudd's preference, and now that he's gone we supposedly might see some bigger guards. I threw in enough qualifying words there, didn't I? No idea if any of that is true, but I hope so.

                            At OT, some realistic guys I'd like the Colts to consider are Jason Fox, Jared Veldheer, Charles Brown (303 lbs. at the Combine!), Vlad Ducasse (though he'd probably be a guard he's technically a T), and Marshall Newhouse (another probable guard).

                            At OG/C, prospects include Maurkice Pouncey, Jon Asamoah, Sergio Render, Mike Johnson.

                            We also still have Jaimie Thomas, whom the Colts signed to a future contract. He will probably be in the mix in camp at the OG position.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Seamus2602 View Post
                              I really can't see the Patriots going for Gresham. Patriots have needs at RB, WR, multiple O-Line positions, 5 Tech, NT, ILB, rush LB and CB. TE would be a luxury pick for them. I also think the Ravens have more pressing needs to address, especially at WR, and there is a good chance that they will hold off and not take Gresham.
                              Well, the Bengals need TE help too, let us not forget them. Yes, a TE is a luxury pick for the Pats, I agree but I wouldn't put it past them. With the way teams are cutting key players left and right, if Ben Watson is cut, it changes the equation totally for the Pats. I just do not see the Ravens sticking with Todd Heap either. Good WRs like Blair White or Jordan Shipley would be there for the Ravens in round 2 but there are only a few real good TEs that can block and catch, and Greisham is one of them.


                              Originally posted by Seamus2602 View Post

                              When you draft a Defensive Tackle in the top 2 rounds you expect him to be able to do a bit of both. Moala rotated a lot on passing downs, spelling Eric Foster. His future with the team is at 3 Tech, not at Nose. And I just think that if we take a high 3 Tech, and resign both Mookie and Muir, then where does Moala get his snaps in? With Foster, Mookie, Muir, the new Rookie, as well as Brock and Dawson taking some snaps at DT, where does Fili Moala get his playing time. I think that if we draft a player in the top 2 rounds then we are basically saying that we are giving up on Moala. The fact of the matter remains that while we were much improved in run defense this season we were still 24th in the league in yards, mid table in yards per carry and 20th in runs giving up for first downs. We upgraded the run defense but lets not claim that there isn't significant room for improvment. I think we can improve our interior pass rush I just don't think Polian is going to move on it this year. He is going to give Moala another year.
                              My feeling is that with Brackett's contract being front loaded in an uncapped year and Brock and Dawson not being effective, both Brock and Dawson could be gone. This increases the need for a quality disruptive 3-technique UT, no two ways about it. Besides, this is one of the best drafts for that kind of UT, Polian would be stupid to not draft a UT on day 1 with possibly Alualu and Atkins around when he picks in round 2. Moala couldn't crack our starting lineup and was prospected more as a run stuffer than interior pass rusher which I think is his ceiling, that is why with the workouts that Atkins has had in the Senior Bowl and combine, I would love to have him in our DT rotation for the interior pass rush. Enough of the ones who cannot get it done with Foster, Brock and Dawson, we need just one of them. I seriously think Polian should trade down and get more picks in return for our 1st round pick since the elite LTs will be gone by No.31 unless we trade up. We can also get an extra top of the 2nd and 4th for our 1st.


                              Originally posted by Seamus2602 View Post

                              Well firstly Hagler and Wheeler are Strongside Linebackers, not Weakside. Secondly I think Wheeler played pretty well in Hagler's absence. Thirdly, the SAM linebacker position is a relatively junior position for the Colts. The Colts took 1328 defensive snaps last season, and there was a SAM linebacker on the field for 720 of those snaps. So the SAMs only took about 55% of the snaps. I think between Hagler and a former third round pick that we have enough for a position taking 55% of the defensive snaps.
                              I agree with this. We might still go the UDFA route for our LBs.

                              Here is a mock I have somewhat settled on after the combine drills:

                              This draft should be a draft where we either trade up or trade down. If Brackett’s contract is going to be front loaded for this uncapped year (which it will be), I do anticipate a lot of cuts to keep costs down for next year in case it is capped, so it is best to do with draft picks.

                              Maybe Brock, Dawson, Wheeler will all be gone along with the expected Jennings, Rushing, Baskett. I am not impressed with the play of any of them. It saves money, gets rid of underachieving players for what they are paid, and by trading down, we can get an extra pick, IMO (maybe an extra 2nd & 4th – top 10 kind for our 1st).

                              Along those lines, I’d like these players:

                              Round 1 (Polian trades down to the top of the 2nd round in exchange for pick No.38 and pick No.102)

                              Round 2 early pick (No.38) – Vladimir Ducasse, OT, Massachussetts (has all the tools you need for an RT, can play RG too, all good LT prospects will be gone unless we trade up, so it is best to get our RT prospect first, Diem can only play RT and is not athletic enough to play any other position, so the right side may need to be addressed faster than people think, DeVan or Pollak are not the future at RG, IMO)

                              Round 2 pick – Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia (I loved his Senior Bowl, his combine workouts, everything about him as a disruptive 3-technique UT)

                              Round 3 pick – Austen Lane, DE, Murray State

                              Round 4 early pick (No.102) – Alterraun Verner, CB, UCLA

                              Round 4 pick – Nate Byham, TE, Pittsburgh

                              Round 5 pick – Pat Angerer, ILB, Iowa / Perry Riley, OLB, LSU (a bit unsure at this point who it should be)

                              Round 5 compensatory pick for Hunter Smith – Tony Washington, OT, Abilene Christian (he is more of the LT kind, very good prospect, good upside)

                              Round 7 pick – Aaron Pettrey, Kicker, Ohio State

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                              • #75
                                I'm glad that someone else has Atkins, I really want him as a Colt now, big time. To be honest I wouldnt really know enough from seeing game tape to be able to draft too many rounds. But I really want us to fi the trenches, if an OT drops to us out of the big 4 (Williams, Bulaga, Okung, Davis) I would love that, but it wont happen so I would suggest a guard in RD 1 (Iupati if there, else Ducasse), and then Atkins in Rd 2.

                                Round 3 I would like depth at CB, or possibly a DE / T

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