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  • The Corey Simon Saga (New: Simon officially released)

    http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...705150422/1100

    I think it's threadworthy, the FO doesn't sound to optimistic about his return eh?
    Is that a rash?



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  • #2
    This is exactly why Polian doesn't like to spend big bucks on Free Agents.

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    • #3
      If Simon didn't suffer his knee injury, I doubt there's a problem. Before the injury, Simon was as slim as he had been with the Colts and looked primed for yet another great season in his productive career. Whatever the condition that followed, be it polyarthritis or otherwise, well I seriously doubt that was something the Colts' doctors could see coming.

      There is something to be said for investing in the sure thing, which is what the Colts have done by paying their playmakers accordingly, but the Simon signing wasn't that much of a risk. He played in an Eagles defense which is similar to that of the Colts, and he had weight issues for his last few years in Philly because of the use of the franchise tag and overcame that during the season. I thought Simon's contribution to the team, especially in the run defense, was a contributor to their great start in 2005.

      That would be like Booger McFarland getting a fluke injury/condition and then saying well "we shouldn't trade picks away for players." It's not as though it the risk wasn't calculated in the move, when McFarland is playing well in the defense now and helped the Colts reach the goal they sought so much.

      And heck, if the Colts want to not be forced to spend money or trade picks for a playmaking tackle, then maybe they should address the interior of the defense with the draft like they do the rest of the team. Finally they did so by drafting Quinn Pitcock in the 3rd round of the 2007 Draft, the first pick at the position since Larry Tripplett in 2002 (Sweet Pea Burns, at 6-0/260, is more of DE), but it's still not enough. The team needs to draft one more tackle in 2008, and maybe another in 2009 - infuse a weak point of the team with talented youth until it is a strength, like the spectacular job the Colts have done in building the secondary as it is today. Many, including myself, have been hoping for this for some time.
      Last edited by Geo; 05-17-2007, 07:30 PM.
      Pugnacity, testosterone, truculence, and belligerence.

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      • #4
        Corey Simon to be released.

        http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

        Scroll down for the news wire.

        Yeah, this is expected.

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        • #5
          KFFL is likely citing this recent Indystar article:

          Here are a few issues to follow until training camp opens:

          Corey Simon

          Look for the veteran defensive tackle to get his walking papers, perhaps after a final grievance with the Colts is resolved involving $1.9 million in '06 base salary.

          The latest sign Simon has played his final game for the Colts: He wasn't invited to Wednesday night's ring ceremony.
          I'd say that last sentence says it all, don't you?

          Cutting Simon outright leaves me more concerned about the (run) defense this year.
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          • #6
            That's why we brought Pitcock, to replace him.

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            • #7
              Yea Pitcock is really gonna lock down that run defense. Still think you guys shouldn't have passed on Branch.

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              • #8
                I think it's unfair, if not also unrealistic, to expect Pitcock to come in as a rookie and be the end-all solution to the (run) defense. I'm very glad the Colts drafted him obviously, I think he'll take snaps at UT and NT and add some much-needed talent and physical ability to the interior. I wouldn't be surprised if he challenges Brock for a starting spot, although I'm trying not to get my hopes up that Coach Dungy will make the change immediately. He has stuck with Brock despite his struggles, although maybe that has something to do with not having anyone else on the roster to step in.

                Re: concerns about the defense, it's going to take more than just Pitcock to play well, and I think a lot of it can and will happen. Imo:
                • Freddy Keiaho will be an upgrade at WLB, especially with regards run defense.
                • The intent to give Josh Thomas more snaps is a great move: he's a very promising, balanced DE and can give Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis less wear (and maybe gives Mathis the chance to improve what was a poor special teams coverage unit last year). That Thomas is playing in a contract year may help as well.
                • The Colts are giving up some experience at corner this year, but Marlin Jackson and Kelvin Hayden are both very talented players, and specifically better suited to play against the run with their size/frame/strength. The Colts also have much better depth behind Tim Jennings than a year ago.
                • The Colts are similarly better off at SLB now, with veteran Rob Morris and Rocky Boiman in his second year with the team, than a year ago.
                • One would think/hope that Bob Sanders will be healthier this year.
                • Speaking of the injury bug, hopefully the Colts can avoid it much more than they did in 2006, when it struck the team and the defense especially a great deal. I shudder to think what would happen if Booger goes down to injury, he's probably the best overall defense tackle the Colts have had since Dungy arrived (Montae Reagor left some to be desired as a NT, and Corey Simon didn't have the chance to play his best unfortunately) and his play in last year's post-season helped the defense improve as they did. Not to mention the leadership role that McFarland has grown into.
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                • #9
                  Re: guru's point about Alan Branch, I too would have taken the chance on him with the 32nd overall pick, for what it's worth. I don't have the benefit of the extensive scouting that the Colts have at their disposal, nevermind the medical records and the like, which has been a strong point of the Colts; goodness knows teams with inferior scouting have drafted tackles that didn't live up to their promise/pick in the 1st round in the last 5 to 7 years especially. 31 teams in the NFL passed on Branch, though as I said, I loved him as a prospect and would have added him to my team.

                  I do think too much was made about his work ethic, I'd be surprised if he played as many snaps in the pros initially as he did in college as an entrenched starter, though I would concede that there is less concern for Pitcock's work ethic and motor in comparison.

                  Luckily the 08 DT class looks talented and deep, at the moment at least, as I think the team needs to add another tackle next year to bolster the rotation inside and possibly start in a year if Booger isn't re-signed. At the moment it looks deep enough that a good tackle can be had past the 1st round, which the Colts likely considered when trading next year's first to land Tony Ugoh this year.
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                  • #10
                    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2935774

                    Several media outlets reported Friday that Simon was moved from the PUP list, where he spent all last season with what the Colts reported was a case of polyarthritis [The Colts never reported that publically, Lenny P screws up again -Geo]. But a league spokesman said that Simon was still on the PUP list and that a notation on the NFL.com site, indicating that he had been activated, was actually a clerical error.

                    The notation has since been removed from the site.
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                    • #11
                      Hi everybody!
                      I'm a Colts fan and I live in Milan,Italy.
                      I think that we have to release Simon because he's useless.
                      I think that it isn't easy to come back from an injury year and to play well(considering that we don't know if he will be able to do that...)
                      Pitcock will do a great part beacuase he will be in for the Run plays and Brock for the pass plays and that will be a good think for us.
                      I'm also waiting for a major contribute from Klecko that we re-signed this year not only to be our Fullback but to be a minor part of the DT rotation.
                      Sorry for my English :D

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mvp18 View Post
                        Hi everybody!
                        I'm a Colts fan and I live in Milan,Italy.
                        I think that we have to release Simon because he's useless.
                        I think that it isn't easy to come back from an injury year and to play well(considering that we don't know if he will be able to do that...)
                        Pitcock will do a great part beacuase he will be in for the Run plays and Brock for the pass plays and that will be a good think for us.
                        I'm also waiting for a major contribute from Klecko that we re-signed this year not only to be our Fullback but to be a minor part of the DT rotation.
                        Sorry for my English :D

                        Welcome MVP. I couldn't agree with you more on Klecko.

                        Parlo dell'italiano, ma non perfeziona. La mia mamma vive in in Italia Meridionale nella cittā di Napoli. Io mie viveva in Garda di del di Desezano (B) Italia per di 3 yrs.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by redviper311 View Post
                          Welcome MVP. I couldn't agree with you more on Klecko.

                          Parlo dell'italiano, ma non perfeziona. La mia mamma vive in in Italia Meridionale nella cittā di Napoli. Io mie viveva in Garda di del di Desezano (B) Italia per di 3 yrs.
                          Thanks RedViper!
                          I'm a bit far from Naples like 600 Km.
                          But I can arrive at Desenzano in an Hour!
                          Are you a Colts or a Giants fan?

                          P.S: let's see if you understand.
                          Tom Brady č una ragazzina :D

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mvp18 View Post
                            Thanks RedViper!
                            I'm a bit far from Naples like 600 Km.
                            But I can arrive at Desenzano in an Hour!
                            Are you a Colts or a Giants fan?

                            P.S: let's see if you understand.
                            Tom Brady č una ragazzina :D
                            I am a Colts fan but a fan of the Manning family.

                            PS

                            Tom Brady is a little girl, lol! That is so true.

                            Sig by Stephenson86

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                            • #15
                              http://www.tribstar.com/colts/local_...207215438.html

                              Simon working out

                              Defensive tackle Corey Simon, who missed the 2006 season after suffering a knee injury during training camp and then developing a mysterious illness, has been working out with nationally-recognized conditioning expert Tom Shaw this summer.

                              Shaw, a former strength and conditioning coach for the New England Patriots, runs annual pre-training camp workouts for NFL players at Disney's Wide World of Sports Complex in Lake Buena Vista, Fla.

                              The question remains, however, as to whether Simon will continue to remain with the Colts, or even report, when training camp begins. Indianapolis officials and Simon filed grievances against one other with the NFLPA this past spring concerning his salary from last season.
                              Pugnacity, testosterone, truculence, and belligerence.

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