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  • #16
    Originally posted by Geo View Post
    I can only grant wishes that don't hurt the Colts. Sorry, amigo.

    So, defensive end is the biggest need for the Jags? I've actually thought their DEs have played better this season than in recent years, from what I've seen, although I can see the need for a consistently dominant guy to harass opposing quarterbacks and help out the secondary.

    Has Brent Hawkins played much? He seems like he could come off the edge and cause some havoc. He was coached by John Teerlink's son at Illinois State and studied Freeney and Mathis, I recall reading.

    Also, I think we can all agree that the Jags need to bolster the secondary a bit, probably at cornerback primarily. Maybe some depth at safety, which can also improve special teams.
    Paul Spicer has been the big guy moreso. Like you said, I think we should look for a consistenly dominant pass-rusher. Bobby McCray dropped off the map this year (except for last night...BOOOYAH), going from 10 sacks to 3. Reggie Hayward came off the injury, and had 3.5 sacks in a down year. And I agree with your points on the secondary: I think depth is key, although experience for the starters is crucial.

    To be honest, I don't know how much Brent has really played. He has good speed and shows flashes of talent, but he's a third down pass-rush type. And I think that's what he's done this season, but I don't have an estimate of how much he's actually played.

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    • #17
      If Calais Campbell is somehow still on the board at our pick we should take him if not I think Aqib Talib would be a good fit at CB

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      • #18
        I really think the only way we're going to bolster the defensive secondary is if we draft a CB and move Brian Williams to SS...that's the only I can envision us truly being better back there....

        other than that...Defensive End...Paul Spicer is like 33 years old and while he's had an amazing year he's just getting plain old and we need a young stud that can rush the passer and stop the run....

        if Campbell was still on the board, by some unknown reason, when we were picking I'd kill for us to pick him...I do like Aqib Talib though...Derrick Harvey says hello as well...

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        • #19
          when do we start thinking about MLB. Mike Peterson is getting up there is age and has been injured a little more frequently the past several years


          big ups to Sf49ers1121

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          • #20
            Originally posted by leftwich7 View Post
            when do we start thinking about MLB. Mike Peterson is getting up there is age and has been injured a little more frequently the past several years
            Daryl Smith would probably stay there, and Durant would fill Daryl's spot. I could have that reversed, but the idea's the same: we have the fill-ins, it's just depth after that.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by The Unseen View Post
              Daryl Smith would probably stay there, and Durant would fill Daryl's spot. I could have that reversed, but the idea's the same: we have the fill-ins, it's just depth after that.
              Daryl is a better MLB than he is OLB...it's the natural position he played in college and he's played lights out the past two seasons there....I believe we will look at not bringing Peterson back in the offseason...he's getting old and the injuries are starting to take their toll....

              Durant has been lights out this season in the OLB spot...I think our Linebackers right now are very underrated...

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              • #22
                After watching tonight's game it's clear that the biggest need is DE. Spicer is getting old, and Hayward has been a bust since he signed with us. Not sure McCray is the guy either.

                Good thing the draft has some good players with Chris Long, Vernon Gholston, Calais Campbell, Lawrence Jackson, Derrick Harvey and Phillip Merling.

                We obviously won't get some of those guys unless we trade up, but trading up isn't a bad idea either. Probably should go the way of defensive back in the 2nd round.

                If they acquire a WR, it needs to be a Larry Fitzgerald type, we have enough of those #2/#3 type. WR is the least of my worries right now.
                Last edited by TheSchmidt; 01-13-2008, 02:10 AM.

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                • #23
                  I'm doing a mock draft on another forum as the Jags and here are the results through four rounds. Tell me what you guys think.

                  Round 1 - DE Calais Campbell, The U
                  Round 2 - DT Red Bryant, Texas A&M
                  Round 3 - LB Beau Bell, UNLV
                  Round 4 - S Tyrell Johnson, Arkansas St.

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                  • #24
                    well....I think you forgot a third rounder but that is a solid draft...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JagHombre22 View Post
                      well....I think you forgot a third rounder but that is a solid draft...
                      Yeah, I think they got it wrong in the draft.

                      Here's the complete mock draft I did for you guys on another forum:

                      Round 1 DE Calais Campbell
                      Round 2 DT Red Bryant
                      Round 3 LB Beau Bell
                      Round 4 S Tyrell Johnson
                      Round 5 RB Justin Forsett
                      Round 5 DE Titus Brown
                      Round 7 CB Justin Tyron

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                      • #26
                        haha...not to nit pick again...we have three 5ths...

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                        • #27
                          I don't really like that draft all too much...Calais Campbell is a high second rounder at this point...you probably could have gotten Trevor Laws or Kentwan Balmer with the #26 pick...which, IMO, would have been a better 1st rounder...and then gotten Jackson, Groves or Langford in the second....mainly because I see Red Bryant as a 3-4 round pick...

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                          • #28
                            Agree

                            Originally posted by Geo View Post
                            Maybe some depth at safety, which can also improve special teams.
                            I am a Colts fan, just hear me out:) .

                            You probably know that the Jags just released safety Lamont Thompson. Jacksonville has three safeties remaining: Jamaal Fudge, Gerald Sensabaugh and last year’s top pick, Reggie Nelson. The Jags need more depth at safety. After a premier DE probably in the first round, I expect the Jags to go after DaJuan Morgan of North Carolina State possibly to add quality depth to safety. I believe they have even tried him out (based on new era scouting website), I expect them to go that direction. I think they have bolstered their CB position with Drayton Florence and might go CB with a later pick but as far as an earlier quality pick, safety will be a better choice, IMO.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JT Jag
                              Originally posted by JagHombre22 View Post
                              ok...if Andre Caldwell was available at #58 (our second rounder) and he was the best available player...would you pick him?

                              considering we take either Phillip Merling or Kentwan Balmer in the first...
                              I'd take another D-lineman.

                              And another in the third, too.

                              THEN we can start thinking about WRs or whatnot.
                              homg called it

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