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  • #31
    Originally posted by Hermstheman83 View Post
    That doesn't sound too bad. I think Wade in the second round is a little bit high for him. Also, why two CB's in the first day? I don't think we'd build for depth especially with all the holes. Also, two DE's? I'd think DT would be more of a need but perhaps those guys' can play both. Also, who's goign to come in if Kawika M. Leaves? You must think KC is going to get Napoleon Harris.
    Good questions. The reason why 2 first day corners is because Benny Sapp is a RFA and a nickelback at best. I'm not sure Maxey is good enough to be more than a nickel guy either considering he's been cut twice already. So we really don't have any young eventually starters behind Law and Surtain. That's why I wouldn't mind seeing us go after two first day guys like Wade and Brown. The 2nd may or may not be a little high for Wade. But with his 4.3 40 time and his physical-style, I don't think he's going to be there in the 3rd when we pick again. So if we want him, we may have to take him in the 2nd.

    Why 2 DEs? Because the only other DE we have on the roster behind Jared and Tamba is Hicks. Who is old, slow and doesn't really provide much outside of solid run defense. If Jared or Tamba get hurt and have to miss time, we're kinda screwed. Wilkerson is a tweener but seemed to show a little more lining up inside than outside. But he can play the outside in a pinch. But we really don't have any true depth behind Jared and Tamba. And like I said, if either one has to miss time (like Jared may have to in the beginning of the season) we're kinda screwed as the roster stands right now. That's why I'd go after 2 DEs.

    As far as DTs go, that's why as part of my trades I was having us get Haynesworth from the Titans and Manny Wright (or Rod Wright) from the the Phins.

    I think the Chiefs are eventually going to sign either Mitchell or Harris. Probably whichever one is cheapest.

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    • #32
      Are you serious? We have gaping holes with no talent and your drafting for depth? <sigh>

      You have to address the immediate weakness and get veteran FA backups for these guys right now, draft to fill the glaring weaknesses, not to get guys who will sit on the bench for the WHAT IF situation of someone getting hurt.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by USAF Chief View Post
        Are you serious? We have gaping holes with no talent and your drafting for depth? <sigh>

        You have to address the immediate weakness and get veteran FA backups for these guys right now, draft to fill the glaring weaknesses, not to get guys who will sit on the bench for the WHAT IF situation of someone getting hurt.
        Ok. Gaping holes in the team is a valid point. But we supposedly got a starting OT last week in Damion McIntosh. So, theoretically that's one gaping hole filled.

        D-Tackle? That's why I included in the post about trading for Haynesworth and one of the Wrights from Miami to go along with Wilkerson and maybe another FA tackle. Another gaping hole potentially filled right there.

        QB? It's sounding more and more like Trent may have seen his last days as a Chiefs according to the Star and all the local radio and news stations. Damon Huard will probably start out as the #1 QB. Then you still got young Brodie who Herm and the rest of the coaches really like.

        Interior O-Line in the event Shields and Weigmann retire? You're never going to find a guard as good as Shields. But we still got Welbourn, Bober, Waters, Niswanger, and Stallings. And in my mock I mentioned getting the center from Clemson in the 7th to play either guard or center. I even went so far as to mention drafting Doug Free to play a tackle spot. Interior linemen aren't that hard to find. And we have adequate bodies there.

        Cornerback? Yeah, we still have Law and Surtain. And both are still productive. But neither is getting any younger. And we have zero potential replacements for them seeing as how one or both probably won't be here after next season. Should we wait until one or both retire or is cut to worry about getting a young corner or two? Or do we get them now so they can have a year to learn from two of the best in the business. Personally I choose to get a couple now so they can have at least a year to learn behind Law and Surtain. Kinda like how Page and Pollard had a year to learn behind Knight and Wesley. Should we not have drafted Page and Pollard last year since we already had Knight and Wesley? I don't know about you, but I'm kinda glad we got Page and Pollard.

        Safety? Like I said, we're good there with Page and Pollard. But according to the Star, Wesley might get traded. And Knight may be a little too expensive to keep on the roster. So we may need another warm body to backup the Killer Ps. Although we still have Bartee for whatever reason.

        Linebacker? We still have DJ. And, like I said, the Chiefs are probably going to sign either Mitchell or Harris. I think Fox is a solid starter as proven by the fact that while DJ was down he led the team in tackles for I believe 3 of the 4 weeks he started. And minus a couple missed tackles showed some pretty good stuff on the field. Yeah, we could probably use another LB or 2 as depth since Boomer is now a FB.

        TE? We still have Gonzo for at least another 3 years due to the 5 year extension he just signed. And Dunn has at least one more season in him and hasn't indicated retirement. No immediate need there. Although the thought of depth needs to be kept in the backs of Herm and Peterson's mind eventually.

        WR? Kennison is good for another year or two. Parker is probably going to be kept for one more year. But I'm not sure I see him on the roster beyond that. Still got Webb who Herm supposedly, really likes. Hannon initially made the 53 at the beginning of the season. And ended the season on the 53. From what I've heard and read, coaches seem to like him. Plus, I have us going after Meachem as a true #1. According to the Star, Dante Hall is being shopped for a trade.

        RB? Looks like LJ is going to remain here. And all the trade LJ talks seem to have died down. Plus we still have Bennett and that kid out of Arkansas. No immediate need to go after a RB.

        FB? Yeah, we could use a true FB. Although Wilson did improve into an 'ok' blocker through the course of the season. Boomer Grigsby is now listed as the #1 FB on the team. Not sure how that will turn out though.

        You have a valid point. But the "what if" part does still has to be accounted for. Case in point, it's sounding like Allen is going to have to serve some kind of suspension for his DUI. At least according to the local papers and media. Who is going to fill his spot while he's out? I'm not necessarily "drafting for depth". Meachem comes in as an upgrade over Samie Parker and has to tools to eventually beat Kennison for #1. Wade and Brown may not be immediate starters. But could be eventually be starters. Would you rather not draft any corners then wait until next year when Law and maybe even Surtain are gone to worry about finding young starters? I guess we could wait and sign some FA corners. But you saw how much San Fran just paid for Clements. Do you really want to shell out big contracts for starting caliber corners to replace Law and Surtain? Or do you want to plant seeds now, so that in a year or two we don't have to worry about it because we already have cheaper solutions on the roster? Tell you what, doing the former and always relying on FA's to fill important positions is a big reason why we are in the situation we're in now. So I'd prefer to get one or two young replacements now. Although we already signed McIntosh, Free would be an upgrade over any other tackle we have on the roster and would stand a strong chance of starting seeing as how Sampson is a UFA and can't stay healthy, Svitek is a former 6th round DE and Chris Terry is an UFA. Free is not drafting for depth. He'd be drafted to start. Yeah, Mkristo and Xzavie would be backups. But Jared is facing a suspension and has asked for a trade. Who do you want to play his spot if he's suspended or traded? Hicks? Wilkerson? In 03 we already had a proven RB in Priest. But we drafted LJ anyway. And after a major injury that may force Priest into retirement, it's looking like LJ was a helluva pick. I will admit, drafting Naanee in the 6th is a greed pick. If Paul Soliai or Marcus Thomas were still on the board, I wouldn't mind taking one of them at that spot instead.

        So, after saying all that, what, in your opinion, did I leave out?

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        • #34
          OMG, my eyes ... I cannot read that right now.

          Your english teacher would be ashamed.

          Paragraphs are your friend

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          • #35
            Originally posted by USAF Chief View Post
            OMG, my eyes ... I cannot read that right now.

            Your english teacher would be ashamed.

            Paragraphs are your friend

            LOL! Clever. Just trying to have a convo with ya bro. Peace.
            Last edited by KaneMarko; 03-06-2007, 06:30 PM.

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            • #36
              I actually have figured out my final mock draft.
              Since we signed Bonaparte.
              and this is in order of availablility and need

              1. Leon Hall. Robert Meachem. Revis. Jarrett. Houston. Bowe. Ross.
              2. Davis. Wright. Tanard jackson. Hill. Pitcock(he would be a day one starter.) Harrell. Aundrae Allison. Mebane. McBride. Staley. Ugoh.
              3. James Marten. David Irons. Wade. Tony G. Steve smith. McBean. Brown. harris. Frye. Paul Williams. Antonio Jonhson.

              Ideally I'd fall in love with Herman if we went like this.

              1. Chris Houston/Revis/Hall
              2. Davis/Hill/Allison/Tony G
              3. Pitcock/Johnson/Marten

              Best 4,5,6:

              DTs
              Joe Cohen
              Jeremy Clark
              Cliff Ryan
              Matt Toenia

              DEs:
              Xzavie Jackson
              Jacob ford
              Atkins
              Chase Pittman

              Cb's:
              Bo Smith
              Antony Airline
              Corey Graham

              Safety's:
              Willis barringer
              Catanesse
              guy from nd
              pASCAL

              AND MANY OTHERS


              wr/cb/oL OR DT 1ST DAY I THINK
              my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
              <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
              <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
              <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
              Originally posted by Hermstheman83
              What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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              • #37
                In Other Words I Havent Figured Out Shittt
                my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
                <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
                <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
                <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
                Originally posted by Hermstheman83
                What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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                • #38
                  I don't think Herm likes taking CB's in the first



                  sig by BoneKrusher

                  Originally posted by BuckNaked
                  Ok I'd almost rather spank my meat with sandpaper at this point.

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                  • #39
                    I like the idea of trading for Haynesworth. He's young, big and not alot of teams will want him due to that incident with the Cowboys so we won't have to give up much for him. Herm won't mind taking him though...why? because he's the man. Sometiems I'm not sure what to think about the LT. Because with Levi Brown's horrible combine. He might drop to KC.
                    Herm doesn't like to draft Cb's in the first round. But I think if we're taking care of some needs via Free agency(I like the Napoleon Harris deal, he's young and underrated) so I think Herm will go either Wide Reciever, but if Meachem,Bowe and Jarrett are gone(which is likely, and I think Bowe smells of Bust)I think he'll go BPA, which will most likely be Revis or Houston.
                    hate him back, it works for me.

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                    • #40
                      DUH DUH DUHNNNN

                      LATEST K.C Mock for Me! (includes an extra and a 5th for G.W. 6th for Trent)

                      1. Robert Meachem (WR)
                      2. James Marten (t)
                      3. Michael Coe (CB)
                      5. Joe Cohen (DT)
                      5. Kasey Studdard (OG)
                      6. Dedrick Harrington (ILB)
                      6. Chase Pittman (DE)
                      7. Alonzo Coleman (RB)
                      Last edited by bored of education; 03-23-2007, 01:16 AM.
                      my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
                      <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
                      <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
                      <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
                      Originally posted by Hermstheman83
                      What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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                      • #41
                        You said ideal draft.......not what I actually think will happen :P


                        1) Dwayne Jarrett ......see 07 Rose Bowl.
                        2) Ryan Harris, T, Notre Dame
                        3) Brandon Mebane, DT, Cal
                        5) Jay Moore, DE, Nebraska
                        6) Anthony Airline, DB, Baylor
                        7) Tim Castille, FB, Alabama

                        Begin ripping me now :P
                        Last edited by DJohnson56; 04-08-2007, 07:35 PM.

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                        • #42
                          outside of Ryan Harris who I am no fan of I like it

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                          • #43
                            Love the sig T-Rich......still remember the day I heard the news about the accident, still makes me choke up. Will be good seing donnie back in the lb core.

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                            • #44
                              Ryan Harris is extremely soft. Pretty weak to for his size.
                              my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
                              <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
                              <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
                              <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
                              Originally posted by Hermstheman83
                              What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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                              • #45
                                I think I saw an MTV documentary on Ryan Harris....about the "perfect body" I can't say much, I'm not a big Notre Dame fan(don't watch much games, but I go to a sister university...go figure that one out eh?)
                                I'm liking the idea(and it seems realistic too) that we trade down with the browns, get their fourth round pick and we switch third rounders with them for green. That way we can get a DT talent and a CB talent in the second round, and go after a WR in the 3rd, although I don't think we are as bad off as people make it sound. Webb and the guy from tennessee are being slobered on by coaches.
                                Last edited by Hermstheman83; 04-09-2007, 12:26 AM.
                                hate him back, it works for me.

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