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  • #61
    Originally posted by bored of education View Post
    YEah I think Dj could be a very solid ILB in the 3-4 and not good as an OLB in 30 sets. Briant Johnston could develop into a nice 3-4 OLB.

    I am still not buying the change if so..the rebuilding process will take another year or two. But the Chiefs have money to work with, and next year alot of 3-4 studs will be available.
    I really don't think it will take that long. I think we are maybe 1 or 2 players away. I'm assuming Hali can succeed at a OLB which I think he can. I really don't see why he wouldn't. The other OLB is really the only other question, especially if we draft Curry, and sign Canty or Olshanksy.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Hermstheman83 View Post
      Demorrio williams was a 3-4 OLB in Atlanta dude....and was pretty successful there. I think it's important variable in the 3-4 to have Really fast OLB's to rush the QB. You just need big D-lineman to occupy double teams.
      He was an SLB in a Tampa 2 in Atlanta...
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      Last edited by nepg; 09-17-2011, 06:52 AM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Ho0k Em' View Post
        I really don't think it will take that long. I think we are maybe 1 or 2 players away. I'm assuming Hali can succeed at a OLB which I think he can. I really don't see why he wouldn't. The other OLB is really the only other question, especially if we draft Curry, and sign Canty or Olshanksy.
        We have no TRUE DE's or OLBs. KC can run the risk of finding fits..behind you need to have theTy Warren, Seymour type DEs and rush specilaists at OLB. Curry/Hali are not rush specialists. Johnston might be the only one close to a 3-4 olb.

        It will take 2 full drafts and 2 full FA sessions to fuill in right places while fillign in other needs of the enitre team
        my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
        <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
        <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
        <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
        Originally posted by Hermstheman83
        What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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        • #64
          They can do it in one off-season, but it will take another year or two to have solid all-around depth and get the rest of the team's needs settled...

          The Chiefs could use a couple trade-backs. Unfortunately, it looks like the Chiefs are stuck at #3 because Crabs just doesn't look like the prospect most hoped he was right now, and the market for the OT's at #3 isn't good because there are so many of them in this draft.

          The jump to get ahead of Cleveland for Curry is just too great for any team that wants/needs him, and they'd be talking to Seattle about it first anyway (who might not be so keen on Crabs anymore).
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          Last edited by nepg; 09-17-2011, 06:53 AM.

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          • #65
            I haven't posted in a while, but here are my thoughts:

            I love the 3-4. I think it's the best scheme in football. Look at the teams who consisently have good defenses (New England, Pitt, Baltimore), they all run 3-4 defenses (or variations of the 3-4). Now we obviously don't have the personnel to run it now, but then again, we don't have the personnel to run a 4-3 defense either, so we'll have to rebuild regardless.

            McBride, Dorsey (?), and Boone could all play the 3-4 DE. And Tamba could play OLB. However, we don't really have the personnel in the middle. I'd like to see us trade down from #3, and grab Everette Brown. Sign Bart Scott, and make attempts to get Boldin and/or Cassell. Sounds like a plan to me.

            Oh and I really like the Haley hire and I'm excited for the team's future.



            sig by BoneKrusher

            Originally posted by BuckNaked
            Ok I'd almost rather spank my meat with sandpaper at this point.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by adschofield View Post
              I haven't posted in a while, but here are my thoughts:

              I love the 3-4. I think it's the best scheme in football. Look at the teams who consisently have good defenses (New England, Pitt, Baltimore), they all run 3-4 defenses (or variations of the 3-4). Now we obviously don't have the personnel to run it now, but then again, we don't have the personnel to run a 4-3 defense either, so we'll have to rebuild regardless.

              McBride, Dorsey (?), and Boone could all play the 3-4 DE. And Tamba could play OLB. However, we don't really have the personnel in the middle. I'd like to see us trade down from #3, and grab Everette Brown. Sign Bart Scott, and make attempts to get Boldin and/or Cassell. Sounds like a plan to me.

              Oh and I really like the Haley hire and I'm excited for the team's future.
              Oh man, an ads sighting! You better be around for the draft so you, boe and I can talk in irc again!

              Originally posted by fenikz
              His soft D really turns me off
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              • #67
                Originally posted by vidae-KC View Post
                Oh man, an ads sighting! You better be around for the draft so you, boe and I can talk in irc again!
                Oh definitely, by that time, I won't be that busy, so I'll have the time.



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                Originally posted by BuckNaked
                Ok I'd almost rather spank my meat with sandpaper at this point.

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                • #68
                  Vrabel is old but had a sick year 2 years ago. Would be a high charecter guy plus he is a buckeye!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope its not more than a 4th
                  my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
                  <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
                  <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
                  <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
                  Originally posted by Hermstheman83
                  What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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                  • #69
                    Adding Vrabel to the deal definetely means a switch to the 3-4. Patriot linebackers seem to play into their 100s, so hopefully Pioli and Vrabel can bring that magic dust to Kansas City.

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                    • #70
                      If KC does sign Haggans that gives them Vrable and Haggans as OLBs. I know they aren't Harrison/Woodley types. But they are the type of vets that could help with the transition. Veteran presence is needed for a change of this nature.
                      my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
                      <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
                      <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
                      <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
                      Originally posted by Hermstheman83
                      What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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                      • #71
                        Vrabel will be a good leader for this young team. He's worth the short term investment and he came to KC on the cheap. If he could convince LJ and/or Tony to stick around, that would be an added bonus.


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