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  • Originally posted by vidae View Post
    He barely sees the field, what is the point?
    That this team doesn't put out 4 WR looks consistently with two very good slot receivers and 2 big outside threats is a travesty.

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    • Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
      Horton could certainly be an option, just keep in mind that his zone blitz is significantly different from Romeo's defense and may require more personnel changes than you'd think.

      Does anyone think the Chiefs would part ways with Steve Breaston after the season? His base salary of $3.8 million is only guaranteed for injury, and he has a $1.3 million roster bonus, according to Joel Thorman.
      I dont think it would take that much of a turnover. I think turnover happens regardless. Dorsey is an FA, and I think T jax will either get cut or restructure. Justin Houston is proving he can drop in coverage and move in every direction.
      my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
      <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
      <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
      <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
      Originally posted by Hermstheman83
      What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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      • What was he supposed to do? Whatever it took to upgrade it. We have the worst QB situation in the NFL. Our "starter" has more turnovers himself than 31 other teams. BRADY QUINN is our backup. Ricky Stanzi was a wasted pick.

        For all the talk of him bringing in competition, he failed to do that in EXTRAORDINARY fashion.

        I can't wait until Pioli and RAC are fired so we can get rid of this "Patriots Way" mindset and maybe you won't defend these guys so hard when it isn't warranted in the least.

        Originally posted by fenikz
        His soft D really turns me off
        ** RIP themaninblack. You will be missed. **

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        • Originally posted by vidae
          Have you seen the Chiefs play? We were blown out by the BILLS.
          This game is going to either be really fun, or really horrific.

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          • Originally posted by Caddy View Post
            This game is going to either be really fun, or really horrific.
            Really fun for you guys, par for the course for us.

            Originally posted by fenikz
            His soft D really turns me off
            ** RIP themaninblack. You will be missed. **

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            • Originally posted by nepg
              Did you want him to get rid of those players and replace then with his own play makers?
              That's not at all my point. You said Pioli built the roster. He has not brought in a single player that is equal to what he inherited. Berry and Houston might get there, but the jury is still out on them.

              McCluster is one dimensional, and when he starts catching 100 balls a season come back to me with your Welker argument. Pioli has had many premium draft selections and he has used them on, at best, complementary players. And you still think Matt Cassel is a decent quarterback, therefore your evaluation of Tyson Jackson is irrelevant.

              I'll grant you the point on DJ, although I'd say it was Todd Haley's tough love that got DJ going more so than anything else. But, the Scott Pioli "hate" is warranted because he has not done enough to build the team.

              We're talking QB. We're talking DL. We're talking CB. And his megalomaniacal
              behavior is likely the reason Jeff Fisher and other coaching candidates wouldn't even sniff Kansas City.

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              • Originally posted by villagewarrior View Post
                That's not at all my point. You said Pioli built the roster. He has not brought in a single player that is equal to what he inherited. Berry and Houston might get there, but the jury is still out on them.

                McCluster is one dimensional, and when he starts catching 100 balls a season come back to me with your Welker argument. Pioli has had many premium draft selections and he has used them on, at best, complementary players. And you still think Matt Cassel is a decent quarterback, therefore your evaluation of Tyson Jackson is irrelevant.

                I'll grant you the point on DJ, although I'd say it was Todd Haley's tough love that got DJ going more so than anything else. But, the Scott Pioli "hate" is warranted because he has not done enough to build the team.

                We're talking QB. We're talking DL. We're talking CB. And his megalomaniacal
                behavior is likely the reason Jeff Fisher and other coaching candidates wouldn't even sniff Kansas City.

                All very good points. The only point I'm not sure about is the "megalomanical" comment. I'm guessing your going to point to that article awhile ago and Haley's paranoia near the end of his tenure? I guess whenever I've seen Pioli talk he doesn't strike me as an arrogant cat(but that' why I don't play poker) I'm also not sure about "not doing" enough to build the team. With Weis and Haley, Cass actually looked good(I thought) during his one probowl year. I am still holding out hope that KC will start turning it on(didn't Daboll's offene lead the league in yards the last few weeks of the season?) or Quinn is the franchise QB we've been waiting for.
                hate him back, it works for me.

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                • Quinn is god awful. I can't believe people think there is even the smallest hope that he's our future franchise QB. I don't get it.

                  Originally posted by fenikz
                  His soft D really turns me off
                  ** RIP themaninblack. You will be missed. **

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                  • Tell RAC to give Cory Greenstud more playing time.

                    #MoncriefArmy

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                    • Originally posted by Tha Wootster View Post
                      Tell RAC to give Cory Greenstud more playing time.
                      Can he play QB?

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                      • Originally posted by vidae View Post
                        Quinn is god awful. I can't believe people think there is even the smallest hope that he's our future franchise QB. I don't get it.
                        Bro are u srs?

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                        • Originally posted by Splat View Post
                          Can he play QB?
                          He can't be worse than Cassel/Quinn/Stanzi

                          #MoncriefArmy

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                          • Originally posted by villagewarrior View Post
                            That's not at all my point. You said Pioli built the roster. He has not brought in a single player that is equal to what he inherited. Berry and Houston might get there, but the jury is still out on them.
                            It kind of is your point. And I'd differ on the guys he's brought in. Poe is quite obviously a stud NT already. So impressive. Houston is one of the best pass rushers in the NFL AND he's capable in pass coverage, Berry is great as long as he isn't covering TEs, and a lot of the other guys have been injured, so it's tough to talk about them. The roster is much better at this point than it ever was with Carl Peterson and it's just the very beginning.

                            People try to rag on the cap room they have, but what else could they have done with it? Create-a-player? They brought in high quality depth and high-end fills for team-friendly prices. You can't knock that. They have one of the best rosters in the NFL while having a ton of cap room. How is that bad?

                            The jury is out on Houston? I'll give you Berry because I don't think that knee is 100% and he still struggles with TEs, but Houston?

                            McCluster is one dimensional, and when he starts catching 100 balls a season come back to me with your Welker argument.
                            In what universe is McCluster one dimensional? The point was that he does the same things as Welker and can easily get close to that level. That's just completely off the nonsensical chart to say he's one-dimensional.

                            Pioli has had many premium draft selections and he has used them on, at best, complementary players. And you still think Matt Cassel is a decent quarterback, therefore your evaluation of Tyson Jackson is irrelevant.
                            What? Yes, Matt Cassel is a decent QB. He's got some internal issues going on right now. Pretty obvious the way he carries himself. Hasn't dealt with the pressure and unprovoked scrutiny well at all. He's had a bad season.

                            Tyson Jackson is a good 3-4 DE. He has been for a couple years now. People that don't see that tend to not understand the 3-4. When they drafted him, they felt they had to draft him. That was more of a situation where if they didn't get Jackson, they weren't going to be able to run the defense they wanted to run. It's just as hard to find star DEs as it is to find star NTs for a 3-4, but fill-in guys at DE hurt way more than fill-in guys at NT.

                            I'll grant you the point on DJ, although I'd say it was Todd Haley's tough love that got DJ going more so than anything else. But, the Scott Pioli "hate" is warranted because he has not done enough to build the team.
                            Yeah. One of the reasons Pioli brought Haley in was to weed out the guys with scrub attitudes. There's no way he would have brought in a guy like RAC going into that situation.

                            We're talking QB. We're talking DL. We're talking CB.
                            What's wrong with the DL? They look good with Bailey, Rapati, Poe, Powe, Dorsey, and Jackson.

                            What's wrong with CB? That group has been fine since they got relatively healthy. Could they have signed Carr? Maybe (if he wanted to stay), but most people respected the decision to bring in Routt for less and let Carr walk. They let him go to sign Bowe, but it takes two.

                            And I've already gone over how they have never had a better option than Matt Cassel. That's just the way it's been. No one will come up with what else they should have done that they had the option to do with this position. Kyle Orton? Really? Not the solution, and Cassel would have beaten him out in camp just as soundly as he beat out Quinn.

                            And his megalomaniacal
                            behavior is likely the reason Jeff Fisher and other coaching candidates wouldn't even sniff Kansas City.
                            You listen to the radio too much for one (evidenced by all of the things you say all the time). Secondly, JEFF FISHER (or Bill Cowher - same deal) is the one who is "magalomaniacal" in that scenario. He wouldn't go anywhere where he didn't have 100% say in the roster. Get real, man.
                            Last edited by nepg; 10-13-2012, 06:29 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by nepg View Post
                              Kyle Orton? Really? Not the solution, and Cassel would have beaten him out in camp just as soundly as he beat out Quinn.
                              This made me laugh. I mean Cassel would have beat Orton out because it wouldn't have been a "real" competition, not because he is the better player.

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                              • Originally posted by Splat View Post
                                This made me laugh. I mean Cassel would have beat Orton out because it wouldn't have been a "real" competition, not because he is the better player.
                                That is another point that I'd like to address. ******* sheep that think that the coaches don't have say in who starts at QB. Reality check, homeboys: they start Cassel because he's the best option. Orton is not good. The Ortonites are just as bad or worse than the people loving on Quinn right now. It's pathetic.

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