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  • #31
    Originally posted by draftguru151 View Post
    Yea Toon thinks he can start at LG next season. Would have preferred some other guys but I'm not gonna doubt this pick. Odd we traded up for him though.
    Yea I was reading his profile and stuff. Sounds like a typical Parcells OG. Really like what he brings. Only thing is he's 25. I absolutely hate drafting old prospects. NFL lifespans are short enough, we don't need to draft guys that are already starting out with a short one. He should be a solid OG for the next 7 or so years however if he works out the way they want so I can't complain with that.

    We only gave up a 7th. I'm sure we'll find a way to get that pick back. Lots of talent still on the board with Henderson and Robertson at LB, Bryant, Rubin, and Okam at NT (We need to get one of those guys). Tons of OL. Plus there's some pretty good CBs in Trae Williams, Scandrick, Jack Williams and DeJuan Tribble. Not to mention some pretty solid DS on the board still as well.

    We need to try to get another pick before round 6 to try to get one of these guys before they go off the board.

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    • #32
      Really like the Parmele pick. Ricky is still a question mark and Ronnie might not be 100 percent this season. Parmele has alot of upside, great size and is a workhorse type back. This kid screams Marion Barber to me. He might never reach that Pro Bowl level but he is a nice insurance piece and could grow into a good short yardage, goal line and 3rd down back. He was one of my favorite sleepers in the draft.

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      • #33
        Like the Donald Thomas pick. Kinda has a small lower body but he's got some potential. Parmele is a good pick too, but guy and ran pretty well.

        That is correct comahan
        I ******* LOVE YOU DG
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        • #34
          Have to say, this draft has hit a homerun.

          We got 3 OL and 2 DL which we definately needed. Huge for us as we were desperate to build up the trenches.

          Also love landing our QB of the future where we did.

          Parmele and Hillard seem like a solid late round HB/FB combo. Guess Mauia is gonna be cut. Still I really like Parmele and Hillard sounds like he is ideal as the type of FB we are looking for in our roster.

          I was looking for a late round WR and LB but I guess they feel they are ok there until next year's draft. A little more offense heavy then I thought and more small schools guys then I'd like but overall it was an extremely solid draft with alot of hits in the trenches. Much needed, this should help us a ton.

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          • #35
            Definitely a great draft. Built up the trenches and got a QB. Dotson was a nice pick late. Don't really think the Hilliard pick means Mauia is gone, I think Hilliard not making the team is more likely.

            That is correct comahan
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            • #36
              Originally posted by draftguru151 View Post
              Definitely a great draft. Built up the trenches and got a QB. Dotson was a nice pick late. Don't really think the Hilliard pick means Mauia is gone, I think Hilliard not making the team is more likely.
              Remember Mauia wasn't even on the draft database for Scott or NFL.com last year. After he was taken, rumors were that us and SD were the onyl real teams that even considered him a legit prospect. I thought he held his own last season but he just got arrestted, we just wasted a draft pick on a new FB that looks to be much better as a fit for the offense we will be running. It just looks like the writing is on the wall for Hillard to make the team and Mauia to be out the door.

              I also like the Dotson pick. 3 DEs in this draft. That's huge. Our DL is one young NT away from being pretty well stocked with young talent to build our team around. Have to love that. Also with Merling, Langford, definately holding down spots and Dotson also likely to make the PS at the very least. We now have a glut at that spot. We need to keep Holliday to show these kids the ropes but one of Roth or Wright looks to be out the door and judging on last year's play, the contract size and the trade value. Roth I'm guessing will be dealt for a picks in next year's draft.

              We need to make Marcus Monk, Erin Henderson and Darrell Robertson our priority UDFAs.

              Love how we stocked the trenches and built our future for the running game and QB as well.

              We are sitting pretty go go heavily at LB, WR and DB next season and compliment that with some more OL and DL as we need to draft at those spots every year.

              EDIT: As soon as I post this, the Bears take Monk. Figures.

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              • #37
                I'm ok with the Murphy pick, but wouldn't Schuening have been a better value and isn't he a better player anyway? I know the regime liked this guy but I feel like they missed on some serious value at that pick when there were so many better players left on the board. And why did they feel they had to move up 5 spots? Was he really a threat to go within those 5 picks?

                Oh well, a very unspectacular draft, but one that will help build the foundation of our team and will go a long way toward shoring up our offensive and defensive lines completely. Something we needed for sure. Our Lines are set for the future now for sure.

                One thing I didn't understand AT ALL, was the complete diregard for arguably the weakest position on our team, Cornerback. We didn't draft ONE player in the secondary. I didn't like that all. Hopefully we can bring in some UDFA to compete like local Glenn Sharpe maybe.

                A little disappointed we didn't draft any Wr's either. I thought we said we were looking for a true #1, it seems odd that they stared Arrington, Urrutia, and Monk right in the face in the 7th and chose to go RB twice and draft ANOTHER 3-4 DE when we already had Langford, Merling, Wright, Roth, Starks, & Holliday. Oh well, we will see that happens with the free agents now.

                I give our first draft under the Tuna a B- for what it's worth.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by thebow305 View Post
                  I'm ok with the Murphy pick, but wouldn't Schuening have been a better value and isn't he a better player anyway? I know the regime liked this guy but I feel like they missed on some serious value at that pick when there were so many better players left on the board. And why did they feel they had to move up 5 spots? Was he really a threat to go within those 5 picks?

                  Oh well, a very unspectacular draft, but one that will help build the foundation of our team and will go a long way toward shoring up our offensive and defensive lines completely. Something we needed for sure. Our Lines are set for the future now for sure.

                  One thing I didn't understand AT ALL, was the complete diregard for arguably the weakest position on our team, Cornerback. We didn't draft ONE player in the secondary. I didn't like that all. Hopefully we can bring in some UDFA to compete like local Glenn Sharpe maybe.

                  A little disappointed we didn't draft any Wr's either. I thought we said we were looking for a true #1, it seems odd that they stared Arrington, Urrutia, and Monk right in the face in the 7th and chose to go RB twice and draft ANOTHER 3-4 DE when we already had Langford, Merling, Wright, Roth, Starks, & Holliday. Oh well, we will see that happens with the free agents now.

                  I give our first draft under the Tuna a B- for what it's worth.

                  I unblocked you so I could see your reaction on Gholston going to the Jets, lol.

                  Anyways, what exactly were you expecting out of this draft? I was not expecting any WRs or CBs unless they were late round fliers and quite frankly, outside of Monk, there was really no WR or CB that even got me remotely interested late in the draft.

                  We did exactly we I thought we would do. We got a meat and potatoes draft. We built up the lines. I've been saying for a long time that this line was going to be heavy on the front 7 and the OL with maybe a QB of the future and a late round developmental WR or CB mixed in. That's exactly what we got. We drafted 3 OL, 3 DL, our QB of the future, and a couple of late round developmental guys (at RB and FB instead of WR and CB). The draft went pretty much exactly how I thought it would go.

                  Absolutely nothing to be upset about and we did very well, this is exactly what we needed to build our team through and will benefit us greatly in the long run. We got great value at the spot where we picked Merling, Henne, Donald Thomas and Jalen Parmele. Those guys were awesome value picks and should have gone much higher IMO. Long, Hillard and Murphy went right around where they were projected to go. There was no real bad reach with any of our picks that I could see. We might have left a little better talent on the board when we picked Murphy but our FO obviously felt strongly about him because they traded up to make sure we got him and I love that. If you feel strongly about a guy, go get him.

                  Our brass obviously felt good about all the guys they got because they had some of these guys targetted for a long, long time. You read all about the meeting with Merling. In the thread where I updated the players we met with, you'll see Langford, Dotson and everyone knew we loved Henne. The staff got the guys they really wanted and made it happen.

                  Overall it was a great draft, I couldn't be happier. A+

                  Next year we can target WR, CB and LB but this year I got pretty much exactly what I wanted and exactly what I was expecting. And with all the new 3-4 DE's we have some guys we can shop there plus Taylor as well so there's definately ammo to make some moves and get picks in next year's draft.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Joeyjr09 View Post
                    I unblocked you so I could see your reaction on Gholston going to the Jets, lol.

                    Anyways, what exactly were you expecting out of this draft? I was not expecting any WRs or CBs unless they were late round fliers and quite frankly, outside of Monk, there was really no WR or CB that even got me remotely interested late in the draft.

                    We did exactly we I thought we would do. We got a meat and potatoes draft. We built up the lines. I've been saying for a long time that this line was going to be heavy on the front 7 and the OL with maybe a QB of the future and a late round developmental WR or CB mixed in. That's exactly what we got. We drafted 3 OL, 3 DL, our QB of the future, and a couple of late round developmental guys (at RB and FB instead of WR and CB). The draft went pretty much exactly how I thought it would go.

                    Absolutely nothing to be upset about and we did very well, this is exactly what we needed to build our team through and will benefit us greatly in the long run. We got great value at the spot where we picked Merling, Henne, Donald Thomas and Jalen Parmele. Those guys were awesome value picks and should have gone much higher IMO. Long, Hillard and Murphy went right around where they were projected to go. There was no real bad reach with any of our picks that I could see. We might have left a little better talent on the board when we picked Murphy but our FO obviously felt strongly about him because they traded up to make sure we got him and I love that. If you feel strongly about a guy, go get him.

                    Our brass obviously felt good about all the guys they got because they had some of these guys targetted for a long, long time. You read all about the meeting with Merling. In the thread where I updated the players we met with, you'll see Langford, Dotson and everyone knew we loved Henne. The staff got the guys they really wanted and made it happen.

                    Overall it was a great draft, I couldn't be happier. A+

                    Next year we can target WR, CB and LB but this year I got pretty much exactly what I wanted and exactly what I was expecting. And with all the new 3-4 DE's we have some guys we can shop there plus Taylor as well so there's definately ammo to make some moves and get picks in next year's draft.
                    I guess when you look at it like that it seems to be a pretty great draft. I really wanted either Monk or Urrutia in the 7th and it would have been a GREAT draft for me. It wasn't the most exciting draft, but it was a neccessary one. I know why they chose who they did for the msot part and when it coems down to it, i trust Parcells and Ireland. If they think this is what needed to be done then I am all for it.

                    The only pick I was really excited for this year was Merling. Definitely a contender to be the steal of this draft. Once thought to go as high as the Bengals at #9, we got TREMENDOUS value at #32. I would been happy with either Groves or Merling there. I wish I had known we would go Langford in the 3rd because I would have been going hardcore for Groves in that case, but it's all good. We still have JT, Porter, Moses, & Torbor as our Big time pass rushers for next year and now we have a VERY talented front seven for the future and an offensive line that wil be in place and the foundation of our offense for the next 10 years or so IMO. Whether is be Thomas, Mormino, or Murphy, I believe we found our LG, which leaves us with our starting OL for the next 10 or so years:

                    LT: Jake Long
                    LG: Shawn Murphy (where my money's at!)
                    C: Samson Satele
                    RG: Justin Smiley
                    RT: Vernon Carey

                    I'm excited about solidifying our line for sure. This is what has me most excited about coming out of the draft today, as well as the Defensive Line (although I think the NT spot is a bit cloudy still as far as the future is concerned.)

                    BTW, I am on the Malcolm Jenkins and Brian Cushing trains early for next year!

                    Oh, and seeing Gholston hold up that Jets jersey made me absolutely sick to my stomach. One good thing about it that he didn't go to the Pats. When it came down to it, I knew he would end up in either NY or NE and I'd much rather see him with those Loser Jets.

                    Here's to watching Big Jake put Gholston in the ground for the next 10+ years!! :D

                    Dolphins Dream Draft: 1. Jaylon Smith 2. Artie Burns 3. Landon Turner

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                    • #40
                      We still need to see how the young guys step up at OL and DE but we definately upgraded the talent and youth of the trenches big time. If everything goes well with the guys we brought in at those spots (Long, Smiley, Murphy, Thomas at OT. Starks, Merling, Langford, Dotson at DE) then we will really only be looking for a backup and insurance OT in round 3 or 4 next year and a NT hopefully in round 2.

                      We definately will be looking at OLB, CB next season.

                      Consider me jumping on Malcolm Jenkins (CB), Eric Moncur (OLB), and BJ Raji (NT) as of now as some of my favorite guys for us next year if things play out the way we want. We will likely still be picking in the 6-10 range.

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                      • #41
                        Yea my guy right now for next year is Malcolm Jenkins as well. Keeping an eye on Terrence Taylor as well (hopefully he doesn't turn out like the other Michigan DTs).

                        As for the late round guys sure there are guys I would have preferred, but it's late in the draft and it wasn't anything too awful. Absolutely loved the first 4 picks. Next season isn't gonna be that fun but the future is looking good.

                        That is correct comahan
                        I ******* LOVE YOU DG
                        <3 dg

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Joeyjr09 View Post
                          We still need to see how the young guys step up at OL and DE but we definately upgraded the talent and youth of the trenches big time. If everything goes well with the guys we brought in at those spots (Long, Smiley, Murphy, Thomas at OT. Starks, Merling, Langford, Dotson at DE) then we will really only be looking for a backup and insurance OT in round 3 or 4 next year and a NT hopefully in round 2.

                          We definately will be looking at OLB, CB next season.

                          Consider me jumping on Malcolm Jenkins (CB), Eric Moncur (OLB), and BJ Raji (NT) as of now as some of my favorite guys for us next year if things play out the way we want. We will likely still be picking in the 6-10 range.
                          Yeah, I am a big fan of Raji too. Hopefully he can heal up from that injury. His teammate Ron Brace seems to be a nice NT prospect for next year as well. In fact, they might be the top two NT prospects for the '09 draft. What a talented BC interior line!

                          For CB, Malcolm Jenkins is the obvious favorite. But I am a HUGE Macho Harris fan and would love to get him next year. I think he is twice the prospect Flowers was this year and look for him to have a big-time season at VT. One of my early favorites to challenge MJ for the top CB ranking next year. Some added return value as well. He was my favorite corner prospect this year as well before he pulled a 360 and decided to return back to VT for his Senior Year! :(

                          Moncur goes without being said. I am so excited to see him step out of Calais's shadow this year and dominate. I look for him to have a monster year and hopefully be considered one of the top Hybrids for next year's draft. I would love to have him in a Dolphins uniform if all goes well, that's for sure!
                          Last edited by thebow305; 04-27-2008, 10:43 PM.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Joeyjr09 View Post
                            I unblocked you so I could see your reaction on Gholston going to the Jets, lol.

                            Anyways, what exactly were you expecting out of this draft? I was not expecting any WRs or CBs unless they were late round fliers and quite frankly, outside of Monk, there was really no WR or CB that even got me remotely interested late in the draft.

                            We did exactly we I thought we would do. We got a meat and potatoes draft. We built up the lines. I've been saying for a long time that this line was going to be heavy on the front 7 and the OL with maybe a QB of the future and a late round developmental WR or CB mixed in. That's exactly what we got. We drafted 3 OL, 3 DL, our QB of the future, and a couple of late round developmental guys (at RB and FB instead of WR and CB). The draft went pretty much exactly how I thought it would go.

                            Absolutely nothing to be upset about and we did very well, this is exactly what we needed to build our team through and will benefit us greatly in the long run. We got great value at the spot where we picked Merling, Henne, Donald Thomas and Jalen Parmele. Those guys were awesome value picks and should have gone much higher IMO. Long, Hillard and Murphy went right around where they were projected to go. There was no real bad reach with any of our picks that I could see. We might have left a little better talent on the board when we picked Murphy but our FO obviously felt strongly about him because they traded up to make sure we got him and I love that. If you feel strongly about a guy, go get him.

                            Our brass obviously felt good about all the guys they got because they had some of these guys targetted for a long, long time. You read all about the meeting with Merling. In the thread where I updated the players we met with, you'll see Langford, Dotson and everyone knew we loved Henne. The staff got the guys they really wanted and made it happen.

                            Overall it was a great draft, I couldn't be happier. A+

                            Next year we can target WR, CB and LB but this year I got pretty much exactly what I wanted and exactly what I was expecting. And with all the new 3-4 DE's we have some guys we can shop there plus Taylor as well so there's definately ammo to make some moves and get picks in next year's draft.
                            Joe,

                            While I like the focus on the trenches, this is far from an A+ draft. There were a ton of good players that went off the board between the Murphy pick and the Parmele pick. Miami should have played the draft to make sure that they had a fifth round pick somehow. Tons of players went in that range that could really have helped us. To me, that goes back to the lack of Jason Taylor trade. I think they were a little too stubborn on that. I think that if they went back to Jax and asked for their #2 and one of their #5's this yr or one next yr, the deal would have gotten done and we would have Quentin Groves right now.

                            I also thought they took Langford a bit high and would have loved to see them drop a little more and add back the 5 that they did not have.

                            I thought the first day was an A-, but for me gets downgraded to a B- because of not trading JT. . Especially love the pick of Merling........

                            Day 2 was more of more a B-, C+ for me because I feel that they let the draft slip away some when there could have been more players added. I don't have a problems with the players picked too much. I think Murphy will be a player. I think they should have drafted Ahtyba Rubin in round 6 ahead of Parmele, but we will see how that turns out.

                            Basically, the reasons I do not grade it as high as you is that they did not get a WR and that they did not get the true 3-4 OLB/pass rusher. Those things could have been accomplished more easily with a JT trade to add picks...

                            Overall, I see a B- draft that could have been an A-, had they traded JT.
                            Last edited by Quagmire; 04-28-2008, 01:38 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Quagmire View Post
                              Joe,

                              While I like the focus on the trenches, this is far from an A+ draft. There were a ton of good players that went off the board between the Murphy pick and the Parmele pick. Miami should have played the draft to make sure that they had a fifth round pick somehow. Tons of players went in that range that could really have helped us. To me, that goes back to the lack of Jason Taylor trade. I think they were a little too stubborn on that. I think that if they went back to Jax and asked for their #2 and one of their #5's this yr or one next yr, the deal would have gotten done and we would have Quentin Groves right now.

                              I also thought they took Langford a bit high and would have loved to see them drop a little more and add back the 5 that they did not have.

                              I thought the first day was an A-, but for me gets downgraded to a B- because of not trading JT. . Especially love the pick of Merling........

                              Day 2 was more of more a B-, C+ for me because I feel that they let the draft slip away some when there could have been more players added. I don't have a problems with the players picked too much. I think Murphy will be a player. I think they should have drafted Ahtyba Rubin in round 6 ahead of Parmele, but we will see how that turns out.

                              Overall, I see a B- draft that could have been an A-, had they traded JT.
                              I agree about the Jax part as far as the 2nd and 5th goes, as well as Groves being a Dolphin in that case. I would have LOVED it if our first day had ended with Jake Long, Phillip Merling, Quentin Groves, and Chad Henne. Oh well.

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                              • #45
                                Look at this freak QB that we got as an UDFA!!!

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOfVreEXJM4

                                I'm guessing he will be trying out as a WR or KR seeing he is a whopping 5'9 165

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