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  • Originally posted by The_Dude View Post
    The way that our 2 teams have been playing as of late, the Packers are the last team that I want to see in the playoffs. :(
    I'd much rather play the Pack right now than the Eagles.

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    • Originally posted by yo123 View Post
      I'd much rather play the Pack right now than the Eagles.
      I'd much rather play the Cowboys or Giants than anyone else in the NFC. The playoffs are not going to be fun for the Packers if we draw Arizona. And then we have to go to Minnesota, or New Orleans. Three teams that can spread us out and pick us apart.

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      • http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4761127

        Wow. Just wow. When I heard it the first time I thought this was too dumb even for Chilly and I didn't believe it...he is so ******* stupid.

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        • Originally posted by yo123 View Post
          http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4761127

          Wow. Just wow. When I heard it the first time I thought this was too dumb even for Chilly and I didn't believe it...he is so ******* stupid.
          I don't really see the problem here.. it makes some sense. Favre wasn't good last night, and we couldn't block anyone. Jackson's shown that he can play in the NFL and he's got legs to move around in the pocket and avoid the rush. Favre is a bigger statue than Gus Frerotte in the pocket.

          Actually concerned with the fact that Favre wouldn't come out. Childress needs to put his foot down.. if that's what he wanted, he should have made an executive decision.

          I know it's a legend, but Favre really hasn't been good at all the last month or so. Some of that is the offensive line's fault, but he was absolutely miserable against Arizona, average against Cincy, and bad last night.
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          • Another thing.. the fact that he wanted Jackson to come into the game makes me think like we're comfortable with Jackson going forward post-Favre. Which I am okay with, for now. Not to say that I don't want to draft a Colt McCoy in round 2 or 3, because I do, in case Jackson can't handle himself again.

            Then there is Rosenfels, who we actually gave a decent contract to. His skillset seemed to fit the offense well, and he wasn't terrible in the preseason.

            But the fact that Favre is complaining to the media about Childress trying to take him out just makes me feel like he's not coming back after this season.

            So much drama for an 11-3 team. We're not going to come out on fire every single game, fellas. Offensive line was bad last night, predictable defensive schemes, and just plain trying to do too much. Take care of business next week in Chicago and hope Philly drops the game vs Denver next week so we don't have to play our starters vs the Giants.
            "Compadres, it is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season. And remember, a shiny new donkey for whomever brings me the head of Colonel Montoya."

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            • Originally posted by djp View Post
              I don't really see the problem here.. it makes some sense. Favre wasn't good last night, and we couldn't block anyone. Jackson's shown that he can play in the NFL and he's got legs to move around in the pocket and avoid the rush. Favre is a bigger statue than Gus Frerotte in the pocket.

              Actually concerned with the fact that Favre wouldn't come out. Childress needs to put his foot down.. if that's what he wanted, he should have made an executive decision.

              I know it's a legend, but Favre really hasn't been good at all the last month or so. Some of that is the offensive line's fault, but he was absolutely miserable against Arizona, average against Cincy, and bad last night.

              I don't think Favre played that badly last night. 17/27 for 200 some yards. And Jackson has shown he can play in the NFL? I haven't seen that. Maybe as a backup. It's just ridiculous.

              And what did Childress think was going to happen? One of the biggest competitors in sports was just going to smile and nod when he was benched in the 4th quarter with a one point lead?

              I can't think of one argument in Childress' favor here.

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              • Originally posted by djp View Post
                I don't really see the problem here.. it makes some sense. Favre wasn't good last night, and we couldn't block anyone. Jackson's shown that he can play in the NFL and he's got legs to move around in the pocket and avoid the rush. Favre is a bigger statue than Gus Frerotte in the pocket.

                Actually concerned with the fact that Favre wouldn't come out. Childress needs to put his foot down.. if that's what he wanted, he should have made an executive decision.

                I know it's a legend, but Favre really hasn't been good at all the last month or so. Some of that is the offensive line's fault, but he was absolutely miserable against Arizona, average against Cincy, and bad last night.
                I pretty much agree with everything you said. Just because Favre is the story of the NFL season doesn't mean that Favre needs to call all the shots. I mean I know Favre has a big ego, but seriously, you aren't going to bring a team back from a 12 point deficit with 7 minutes left on the clock. Maybe Jackson should have come into the game, he could get away from the pass rush that our offensive line seemed to not be able to contain. I would like to see a little TJack myself.

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                • Originally posted by yo123 View Post
                  I don't think Favre played that badly last night. 17/27 for 200 some yards. And Jackson has shown he can play in the NFL? I haven't seen that. Maybe as a backup. It's just ridiculous.

                  And what did Childress think was going to happen? One of the biggest competitors in sports was just going to smile and nod when he was benched in the 4th quarter with a one point lead?

                  I can't think of one argument in Childress' favor here.
                  How about Carolina's pass rush was uber aggressive and Jackson can slip out and make them pay? We couldn't block a soul last night, Jackson's mobility can help neutralize that.

                  I'm not saying he should have pulled Favre, but he did have a point in at least maybe trying Jackson for a series or two.

                  If only stats told the true story of every player.. Favre's pocket awareness was non-existent last night. He usually does a good job of at least avoiding one guy but he just couldn't move at all. He was holding onto the ball Rodgers-style as well.

                  Look, you have to credit Carolina's defense, too. There's a reason Julius Peppers makes like $20M a season. Combine that with a horrible game by the offensive line (just 7 days after dominating Cincinnati up front), and you've got yourself a problem.

                  We've just become a predictable offense since the Arizona loss. Not enough quick first down passes, too many Peterson stretch plays/tosses on first down.

                  Look at the best games we've played on offense this year. Screen passes, passes on 1st down, things to slow down the pass rush. More please.
                  "Compadres, it is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season. And remember, a shiny new donkey for whomever brings me the head of Colonel Montoya."

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                  • Now that I've defended Childress and Bevell a bit, it's time to bash.

                    The fact that we weren't even chipping Julius Peppers last night was just inexcusable. Look what Carolina did to Jared Allen. He saw a single team maybe twice in 30+ pass plays. They rolled to the right side of the field away from him like 10 times. He didn't make a peep after the sack fumble.

                    Put Kleinsasser in for Shiancoe and just have him protect and hope Harvin/Rice/Berrian get open. Just a poor gameplan all around. They saw the tape from Cincy and just hoped the OL could get it done again.

                    They know what they have in Phil Loadholt. He's not a pass blocking specialist by any means. Take the guy out on 3rd downs or something and put somebody in that can move their feet. Dallas will absolutely destroy us in the playoffs with the way they move DeMarcus Ware around.

                    As far as McKinnie goes, he's still an above average LT. I'll just chalk it up to a bad game and Peppers beasting out of his mind. His hands were absolutely trashy last night. He's never been particularly quick out of his stances, but usually uses his hands very well to at least slow some momentum down.
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                    • I was scared Favre was gonna get hurt with all the hits he was taking last night. While I agree with the thought of taking him out to make sure he didn't get beat up too badly. I think there is no way you can think of doing it while the games is so close in the 3rd.

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                      • Originally posted by Crazy_Chris View Post
                        I was scared Favre was gonna get hurt with all the hits he was taking last night. While I agree with the thought of taking him out to make sure he didn't get beat up too badly. I think there is no way you can think of doing it while the games is so close in the 3rd.
                        I agree with you. No way you take him out when the game was that close at that point. And to whoever said he can't bring us back from a 12 point lead with 7 minutes left, that was flat out stupid. That is only 2 TDs. It is utterly insane if you don't think it's possible with our weapons to score 2 TDs in 7 minutes.

                        I think we should have taken him out before the drive where he threw the pick though, as it was over by then.

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                        • Originally posted by marshallb View Post
                          I agree with you. No way you take him out when the game was that close at that point. And to whoever said he can't bring us back from a 12 point lead with 7 minutes left, that was flat out stupid. That is only 2 TDs. It is utterly insane if you don't think it's possible with our weapons to score 2 TDs in 7 minutes.

                          I think we should have taken him out before the drive where he threw the pick though, as it was over by then.
                          I was talking about against the Panthers. No way we could have rushed two touchdowns in 7 minutes with all the pressure that they were getting on Favre.

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                          • Well the media is going to have fun with the "turmoil in Minny" hype leading up to the MNF game you can believe. I read one link(granted it's PFT) that Childress tried to bench Favre twice before 2nite, once during the GB game when Favre supposedly changed the play up 10 to a deep pass in the game, and another vs the Lions this year. Not sure if you've read it, or how true it is, but it'll get some press.


                            Then Childress was supposedly pissed that Favre mentioned this story to the press at all.


                            I don't think it'll be a big deal, but I expect them to hype it up like it is one. I think if you guys can just get back to getting Peterson going and Favre managing the game instead of trying to win the game you should be fine. Besides you should still have a bye and one home game which should favor you in that regards.





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                            I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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                            • Favre is an attention *****. What the hell are we fans supposed to expect?

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                              • Yeah, I was looking forward to one of T-Jacks patented jump passes into double coverage.


                                No thanks.

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