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  • Originally posted by vikes_29 View Post
    He deserves a lot of cash. Like for real. I don't give a **** how old he is. We are a win now team. And he wants to win a superbowl. The Vikings think that they are going to get the "hometown discount" on him. But I don't think that will happen. Winfield is better than that.
    If he wants to finish his career here, he might have to take a hometown discount. When you say statements like that, it makes the fan base think that money is less important than staying on this team.
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    • He has an awful lot of leverage, though. There's nobody behind him that is taking over if he leaves in FA. The franchise tag will be an absolute necessity if he's not extended.

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      • Originally posted by FlyingElvis View Post
        He has an awful lot of leverage, though. There's nobody behind him that is taking over if he leaves in FA. The franchise tag will be an absolute necessity if he's not extended.
        That's not exactly true. The Vikings have been drafting lately to replace possible losses in FA. We drafted Tyrell knowing Sharper could be gone, we are clearly confident in Sullivan as the replacement for Birk and that could be the same idea they have for Asher Allen. Not saying that Allen is anywhere near Winfield, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least that if Allen has a solid season they let Winfield walk. I love AW, but I really believe that if they didn't have faith in Asher Allen then we would've already seen him extended similar to Griffin.

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        • Winfield was awesome last year. My guess is they are just waiting to see how he does this year.


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          • Originally posted by hagy34 View Post
            That's not exactly true. The Vikings have been drafting lately to replace possible losses in FA. We drafted Tyrell knowing Sharper could be gone, we are clearly confident in Sullivan as the replacement for Birk and that could be the same idea they have for Asher Allen. Not saying that Allen is anywhere near Winfield, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least that if Allen has a solid season they let Winfield walk. I love AW, but I really believe that if they didn't have faith in Asher Allen then we would've already seen him extended similar to Griffin.

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            I don't disagree that the Vikings have been drafting to replace. However I disagree with thought the Vikings could already have the same feelings towards Asher Allen as a John Sullivan or a Tyrell Johnson. Asher Allen is just a late 3rd round CB in a weak draft class who easily could have gone in the 4th. Could he become good enough to replace winfield? sure it's possible. But is he good enough right now for the Vikings to hold off on extending Winfield? not even close. Flying Elvis is right Winfield has a lot of leverage in this situation. Because while the Vikings have a lot of depth guys and just drafted a 3rd round CB none of them are good enough yet to have faith in taking over his starting spot.

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            • I'm not saying thats how I feel, I'm saying that could be the reason they are waiting on Winfield. I mean John Sullivan was a 6th round pick! Allen was brought in because he is a good fit in this system and a good tackler. Don't get me wrong, I'll be upset if we don't bring Winfield back, I just think that the team may view Asher Allen as his replacement if his contract demands are too high.

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              • I understand what you meant by it and I just completely disagree that the Vikings could possibly feel they can wait on extending Winfiled because of Asher Allen. As for John Sullivan being a 6th round pick it's very different simply because of the position. Center don't normally go very high you can find good center prospects later in the draft that can be ready to play. CB is a whole different ball game.

                I don't doubt the team could view Asher Allen as a possible replacement down the road to Winfield. But there is just no way(As of right now) that they could use Asher Allen as some sort of leverage versus Winfield. Obviously this could change if Asher Allen plays well this year but at this point he hasn't done anything to make them view him like that.

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                • I just don't see anyone on the roster that is even close to Winfield. Even if Griffin is good enough to take over #1 there's no solid guy after that - unless Gordon is going to come back from IR as a beast. I guess I don't really know enough about him to say, but Winfield is a top CB and that's not easy to replace.

                  But I see your point entirely, Hagy. There really is no need to rush to re-sign him now. See how things go and franchise him next year if necessary. It's just that I'm not that optimistic about the guys on the current roster. There's always FA next year, too.

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                  • Originally posted by FlyingElvis View Post
                    I just don't see anyone on the roster that is even close to Winfield. Even if Griffin is good enough to take over #1 there's no solid guy after that - unless Gordon is going to come back from IR as a beast. I guess I don't really know enough about him to say, but Winfield is a top CB and that's not easy to replace.

                    But I see your point entirely, Hagy. There really is no need to rush to re-sign him now. See how things go and franchise him next year if necessary. It's just that I'm not that optimistic about the guys on the current roster. There's always FA next year, too.
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                    Winfield has been the most solid player on that def since he came here a few years ago.

                    There is a strong chance that his leverage will only increase after another solid year, being an unrestricted free agent, and the possibility of an uncapped year.


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                    • I was putting it as nicely as I could being a Pats fan in the Vikes forum. lol


                      2nd favorite is Minnesota so I really don't want to see them let Winfield go. And I completely agree that it's very risky to not extend him early b/c he could be even more expensive later. It could go either way, but he played too well last year to reasonably expect a flop in a contract year.

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                      • Williamses could learn legal fate Thursday
                        May 13th, 2009 – 8:20 PM by Chip Scoggins
                        Pro Bowl defensive tackles Kevin and Pat Williams could learn Thursday whether their four-game suspensions by the NFL will be upheld.

                        The Williamses have a June 15 court date, but Pro Football Talk reported tonight that a “motion for summary judgment” will be heard on Thursday. Essentially, U.S. District Judge Paul Magnuson can make a ruling if he decides there are enough facts that are not in dispute by both sides.

                        The hearing is scheduled to start at 10:30 a.m. and is expected to last several hours.

                        The Williamses were suspended for four games last season after testing positive for a banned diuretic. They were granted an injunction in mid-December, which allowed them to finish the season.

                        The Williamses, along with three players from the New Orleans Saints, were suspended after testing positive for bumetanide, which is contained in the supplement StarCaps and can be used as a masking agent for steroids. Bumetanide was not listed as an ingredient on the StarCaps label and the players argue that the NFL did not properly inform players.

                        The Williamses are seeking up to $10 million in damages as well as having their four-game suspensions overturned. The Williamses, in court filings, admit they took the diuretic to help them make a prescribed weight because both had weight clauses in their contracts.
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                        • Who would be the starting DTs if the Vikings go minus the Williamses?


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                          • Originally posted by princefielder28 View Post
                            Who would be the starting DTs if the Vikings go minus the Williamses?
                            Fred Evans would be one of them, but I'm not sure who the other would be.

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                            • Originally posted by marshallb View Post
                              Fred Evans would be one of them, but I'm not sure who the other would be.
                              Guion maybe? Sucks Darion Scott went psycho, he could play DE and DT.

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                              • Originally posted by FuzzyGopher View Post
                                Guion maybe? Sucks Darion Scott went psycho, he could play DE and DT.
                                We're also bringing back Kennedy so he very well could be starting in that scenario as well.
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