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  • Originally posted by JFLO View Post
    Looks like Pat and Kevin are one step closer to a suspension...

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4200775
    Not necessarily, if you read this article from Pro Football Talk, it says that they still have a chance, in fact a fairly good one.
    http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...ll-has-a-case/

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    If a girl is sucking me off, and I look down and shes beating off a **** of her own, I am absolutely going to tell her to stop. 100% of the time. Explain that ****.

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    • Originally posted by marshallb View Post
      Not necessarily, if you read this article from Pro Football Talk, it says that they still have a chance, in fact a fairly good one.
      http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...ll-has-a-case/
      The Star Tribune has been sending their readers to PFT and Florio's articles because Florio is a lawyer, he's able to understand all this and put into terms regular ppl can understand.

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      • So I work at the Chaska Town Course in Chaska, MN and Phil Loadholt was out at the course today. He is HUGE!!! I got him to sign a Vikings hat that I had in my car which was pretty cool. He is a very nice guy and seemed real down to earth.

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        • Originally posted by hagy34 View Post
          So I work at the Chaska Town Course in Chaska, MN and Phil Loadholt was out at the course today. He is HUGE!!! I got him to sign a Vikings hat that I had in my car which was pretty cool. He is a very nice guy and seemed real down to earth.
          that's pretty cool.

          B-Rand, I saw that too, but I found that by just checking on PFT. Florio also has another post up about it too, but I don't have the time right now to find it.

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          Originally posted by A Perfect Score
          If a girl is sucking me off, and I look down and shes beating off a **** of her own, I am absolutely going to tell her to stop. 100% of the time. Explain that ****.

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          • Originally posted by marshallb View Post
            Not necessarily, if you read this article from Pro Football Talk, it says that they still have a chance, in fact a fairly good one.
            http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...ll-has-a-case/
            Judging from that article it seems to me that there's really nothing the NFL will be able to do in this case, as the NFL would be violating the laws of the state of Minnesota when it comes to employee/employer relations, if they were to suspend the Williams Wall for consuming a legal product outside of the organizations premises.
            SKOL VIKINGS!


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            • Originally posted by diehardvikingsfan View Post
              Judging from that article it seems to me that there's really nothing the NFL will be able to do in this case, as the NFL would be violating the laws of the state of Minnesota when it comes to employee/employer relations, if they were to suspend the Williams Wall for consuming a legal product outside of the organizations premises.
              It may not be as much of an open and shut case as it seemd I ran across this ineresting article. I still think they win but I can see the NFL possibly being able to make an arguement out ot this.

              During a Saturday appearance with Howard Balzer and Alex Marvez of Sirius NFL Radio, Balzer posed a great question to yours truly regarding the possible suspension of Vikings defensive tackles Kevin and Pat Williams.

              Isn’t the league the Williamses’ employer, for the purposes of the four-game suspension?

              If so, then Minnesota law potentially wouldn’t apply and, in turn, statutory protections that would seem to prevent the suspensions would not be an issue.

              The answer, as we surmised on a “from the hip” basis in response to Howard’s question, is no.

              NFL spokesman Greg Aiello confirmed this reality via e-mail on Monday: “The clubs as members of the league are bound to terms of the collectively bargained drug programs that cover all players. The discipline for those programs is imposed by the league.”

              A league source was more explicit in this regard.

              “The club is the employer,” the source said. “The league stresses that regularly (when it serves its purpose to do so). . . . The club is the employer, but its ability to discipline is governed/restricted by the CBA.”

              So, basically, the Vikings are the employers of Kevin and Pat Williams, and the suspensions ultimately are being imposed by their employers pursuant to the terms of a collective bargaining agreement that covers employers in 21 different states. And so, if Minnesota state law prevents the Vikings from implementing these suspensions, the NFL necessarily will be precluded from forcing the Vikings to keep them from playing.

              There’s another great question that several readers also have posed: Can the league impose the suspensions for Vikings’ games not played in Minnesota?

              Though Aiello has declined to address this question because the league believes the suspensions ultimately will be upheld, we think that, if the suspensions are blocked under Minnesota law, the ruling will apply both to home games and road games.

              The players remain employees of a Minnesota employer, regardless of whether the workplace is Minneapolis or Detroit or somewhere else on a given Sunday
              http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...-pat-williams/

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              • Another interesting article I ran across basically letting you get to know Percy Harvin better...

                When you read stuff about me, you'd think I'm always evil. But I'm actually kind of a goofy person. I'm a real outgoing person.

                Regrets? Just in my past. Just in the way I handled things. I always shouted and yelled, and even though I was right, I didn't go about it the right way. If I learned that at a younger age, a lot of my problems wouldn't have occurred.

                My stepdad grew up working with the homeless. So if I drive past someone who's homeless on the side of the street, I have to stop.

                My grandmother said, "If you ever dream of a black snake, be careful what you do the next day." I ended up dreaming of a black snake, and I had the worst day of my life. It was two years ago. I was in college. I can't even tell you what the worst thing was. One of the bad things was I missed practice and all the workouts that day. That was the only time I dreamed of a black snake.

                My worst fear is spiders. We had a shed for our bikes. One day when I was in middle school, it was kind of dark, and I walked into a spider web, and they crawled all over my face.

                My biggest pet peeve? You know when girls take a shower and they leave their hair in the tub, or they leave hair in the sink and you go to brush your teeth? That irks me. That disturbs me a lot.

                Being known as a great NFL player probably is my No. 1 thing, other than being a great teammate and helping my team win.

                If I had a time machine, I'd like to go back to the dinosaur age. I always wanted to see T-Rex. I'd like to see how big and how mean he actually was.

                Favorite cartoon? It was the Power Rangers. I even had the little costume. White Tiger. I used to love him. I watched it every morning before I went to school.

                If I could be like any superhero, it would be Wolverine (from X-Men). Playing football, you always get hurt. I'd like to be able to heal up by myself. And "X-Men" is one of my favorite movies. Wolverine is my favorite character.

                In high school, I played football, basketball and ran track. In basketball, I could play anywhere from the point guard to the small forward. I always was physical, so I could go down there and get rebounds and box out. I averaged about 20 points, six rebounds and five assists. In track, my fastest time in the 100 was 10.25 seconds, and my fastest 200 was 22.08. I won state my junior year. I didn't run my senior year. I concentrated on football.

                My mother has had the biggest influence in my life. I always admired her. She raised me, and with everything I went through, she was always there. She was always strong. The thing I learned from her is that a person is measured when they're on the bottom. Everybody always seems to think when you're on the top getting all the awards that that's when you're measured. But actually it's when you get knocked down and have the ability to get up and keep fighting.

                The worst thing I did as a kid? My sister is two years older than me. I was about 5 or 6. We had a slanted driveway, and my sister and I were in the car and just playing with the shift. We put it in reverse and we backed up into the neighbor's house. It ran through the garage, so we had to repair the garage wall.

                When I was a kid, I always wanted to be a football player. I was big into basketball, too. As a kid, basketball probably was my favorite sport. In high school, I got a couple of offers for basketball, but I got the real ones for football. So I decided not to play basketball after my junior year. I concentrated on football.

                I'm real grumpy after a loss. I don't like losing. I haven't lost many games in my career.

                The best day of my life? I would say it was when we won the national championship last year. We had a lot of adversity that year, and everybody came together at once for that last game.

                Probably my favorite comedian is Katt Williams. I've got all his DVDs. He can stand there and not say anything and I'd probably laugh.

                The funniest movie? I would say it was the first "Friday" with Ice Cube and Chris Tucker.

                My favorite movie all-time would be "Bourne Ultimatum" with Matt Damon.

                Denzel Washington is the best actor of all time. He's got to be at the top of everybody's list.

                Actress? Angelina Jolie.

                I'd want my last meal to be fried pork chops, collard greens, macaroni and cheese and a biscuit. I'd wash it down with a Pepsi.

                I cook for myself. My best meal probably is lasagna.

                My friends would describe me as very competitive, very outgoing and probably goofy.

                If my house were burning down, I'd want to make sure I got out the picture of my mom and me from when I was in high school. It was in the newspaper. I'm sitting down, and she has her hands around me. It was kind of the turning point of my high school career. It kept me going the right way. That picture is on my wall. It's hanging above my bed. It was from when I signed my letter of intent.

                The best book I ever read was "Cat in the Hat." That's probably the first book I read by myself.

                I play video games. I'm good at it. I play Madden, NBA Live. I lose once in a blue moon. I play live on Xbox. I play Madden on PlayStation 2.

                My new teammates would be surprised to know that I listen to slow jam more than I listen to rap. My favorite musician is the rapper Jadakiss. I also like RB.

                I don't sing. Oh, no. Simon Cowell would tell me, "You are terrible."

                I probably won't buy anything for myself when I sign my contract. I'll let my mom do what she has to do to get settled. (His mother plans to move to Minnesota.)

                I never miss "Saved by the Bell." It comes on at different times during the day.

                I wouldn't change anything about my life. I learned from all the stuff that happened to me.

                The best advice I ever got was from my mother, and I heard it from every coach. They said, "If you've got to think about it, don't do it."

                The worst advice? My friends always said, "If the shoe fits, wear it." That wasn't always the case with women. Some of the shoes fit, but I shouldn't have worn it. (Laughs.)

                If I could trade places for a day with anyone, it would be my old (Florida) teammate, Tim Tebow. Some of the stuff and some of the girls and things that were thrown at him. We saw all kind of actors and news reporters just kind of blatantly say, "Tebow, I want you." And he turned them down. I'm looking at him, like, "Man, you are crazy."

                I want my epitaph to say, "Here lies Percy Harvin, who was strong and brave."
                http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_12443633?source=rss

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                • Pat Williams on Tarvaris Jackson:

                  Williams also offered an interesting take on Vikings quarterback Tarvaris Jackson, who is trying to stave off Sage Rosenfels and keep his starting job. "I talk to Tarvaris all the time (and) tell him you have to put in the time," Williams said. "This ain't college no more. This is the NFL. You have to put in more time than you are used to putting in. If you are putting in four hours, you have to put in eight. You have to put in more time than what he's doing. I think if he puts the right time in, he will be a great quarterback in the league."

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                  • More news on the case of Pat & Kevin Williams...

                    MINNEAPOLIS -- The NFL filed notice Tuesday that it plans to appeal a federal judge's ruling in the case of two Minnesota Vikings players facing suspensions over positive drug tests.

                    U.S. District Judge Paul Magnuson last week threw out most of the claims by Vikings defensive tackles Kevin Williams and Pat Williams. He also dismissed a lawsuit brought by the NFL players' union on behalf of the Williamses and three New Orleans Saints players also facing suspension.

                    But Magnuson sent the Williamses' two remaining claims to state court.

                    In Tuesday's filing, the NFL said it ask the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals to review whether Magnuson misapplied federal law when he didn't dismiss those two claims outright.

                    The NFL Players Association and the Williamses say NFL officials knew a weight-loss supplement called StarCaps contained the banned diuretic bumetanide back in 2006, even though it wasn't listed on the label, and that the league should have notified players and federal regulators. The NFL bans bumetanide because it can be used as a masking agent for steroids.

                    The Williamses were not accused of taking steroids.

                    The Williamses, who are not related, are seeking to have their four-game suspensions overturned, as well as monetary damages. An injunction allowing the Williamses to continue playing remains in place.

                    In his ruling last Friday, Magnuson said the NFL's policy is clear: Players are responsible for what they put in their bodies, and inadvertently ingesting a banned substance is not an excuse.

                    But the judge sent back to state court the Williamses' claims involving Minnesota laws on when and how employers can require their employees to submit to drug testing, and prohibiting Minnesota employers from disciplining employees for using a legal substance offsite during nonworking hours.

                    "The NFL has a policy that prohibits the use of performance enhancing drugs," the league said in a statement. "That policy applies nationwide to all 32 NFL teams and their employees."

                    It noted that Magnuson recognized that federal law permits nationwide policy, and the NFL policy was reached through collective bargaining. It urged that any state law claims inconsistent with federal labor law should be dismissed.

                    It's not clear if the union will file its own appeal. Union attorney Jeffrey Kessler was out of the country Tuesday and could not be immediately reached for comment, his office said.
                    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4206360

                    Once again the NFL is trying to keep this case out of MN state courts. It would seem to suggest that the NFL thinks the players have a good chance of victory in the MN state courts.

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                    • Sage Rosenfels can suck it...GO TARVARIS!!!!

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                      • Originally posted by Crazy_Chris View Post
                        More news on the case of Pat & Kevin Williams...



                        http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4206360

                        Once again the NFL is trying to keep this case out of MN state courts. It would seem to suggest that the NFL thinks the players have a good chance of victory in the MN state courts.
                        Might as well take that **** to the supreme court.

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                        • Winfield absent
                          May 29th, 2009 – 2:56 PM by Judd Zulgad

                          Vikings cornerback Antoine Winfield is not on the field as the Vikings opened their minicamp today. Because it’s one of the mandatory team functions, the team can fine the veteran defensive back. Contract talks between Winfield and the team broke down about a month ago. We’ll be back on later with an update from coach Brad Childress.
                          Don't be cheap and just sign him. Without Winfield our CB Core looks terrible.



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                          • Agreed. That's the big concern with trying to skate by this year and then franchise him next spring. He knows that will be the most likely scenario and goes the holdout route. Lawd knows a holdout and Favre saga for a month or 3 would just be a nightmare.

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                            • Guess its not as serious as I thought. He had a good reason for missing practice.

                              Childress: Winfield Is Attending A Funeral
                              Posted by Aaron Wilson on May 29, 2009, 6:00 p.m. EDT

                              Pro Bowl cornerback Antoine Winfield is absent from the Minnesota Vikings’ mandatory minicamp because he’s attending the funeral of a good friend’s mother, Vikings coach Brad Childress said.

                              According to Tim Yotter of VikingUpdate.com, Childress said he had lunch with Winfield on Wednesday.

                              Although contract talks between the Vikings and Winfield’s agent have stalled, this absence from minicamp is apparently an excused one even though Childress didn’t specifically say that.

                              “You know, we kind of deal with that internally,” said Childress, according to Chip Scoggins of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

                              According to Childress, Winfield won’t be at the final two days of the minicamp as the funeral is out of town and is scheduled for Saturday.

                              Childress, who said he spoke with Webb’s agent, Ashanti Webb this week, said that he didn’t think that Winfield’s absence was related to his contract situation.



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                              • Yea, I was a little concerned when I saw that Winfield wasn't there, but I felt a lot better about it when I saw why. Antoine never seemed like the guy who would holdout and force a new contract or anything like that, so I was quite surprised when they said he wasn't there..

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                                Originally posted by A Perfect Score
                                If a girl is sucking me off, and I look down and shes beating off a **** of her own, I am absolutely going to tell her to stop. 100% of the time. Explain that ****.

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