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  • djp
    started a topic Minnesota Vikings Discussion

    Minnesota Vikings Discussion

    This thread will be for discussion of the team in between regular season games and then for the offseason.

    I will be stickying regular season Game Day threads once the season starts, please post in the Game Day threads during the game, not here.

    Please do not make me close the this Discussion thread like we had to do last time.

    Ah, ah,
    We come from the land of the ice and snow,
    from the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
    The hammer of the gods
    Will drive our ships to new lands,
    To fight the horde, singing and crying:
    Valhalla, I am coming!
    On we sweep with threshing oar,
    Our only goal will be the western shore.
    Last edited by djp; 10-08-2008, 11:44 PM.

  • the_legend_killer
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    "Adrian has two choices: He can either play for us or he cannot play. He’s not going to play for anybody else.” - Mike Zimmer

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  • the_legend_killer
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    Hyped.

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  • vikes_28
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    We complain when the vikings lose but we don't celebrate when they win? You guys make me sad :(

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  • the_legend_killer
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    Originally posted by The_Dude View Post
    I'm such a dummy... I looked at the schedule and said to myself "at least we don't have any outdoor games in the cold". Duh!
    Same here. If they still played in the dome, that'd be a nice way to close the season.

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  • The_Dude
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    I'm such a dummy... I looked at the schedule and said to myself "at least we don't have any outdoor games in the cold". Duh!

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  • The Dynasty
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    Originally posted by The_Dude View Post
    Schedule analysis anyone? Looks like a pretty thought start to me....
    Yeah its going to be a tough road to begin with but I'd rather just get those games out of the way early on than later, especially if we actually do turn around in just a year. It is nice to see that we have four home games in our final six though. With the weather it will be interesting to see how the team is affected.

    Looks like I need to figure out plans for Oct. 19... Hopefully I won't be on the road for work.

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  • The_Dude
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    Week 1 | Sept. 7 | Noon | at St. Louis
    Week 2 | Sept. 14 | Noon | vs. New England
    Week 3 | Sept. 21 | Noon | at New Orleans
    Week 4 | Sept. 28 | 3:25 PM | vs. Atlanta
    Week 5 | Oct. 2 | 7:25 PM | at Green Bay
    Week 6 | Oct. 12 | Noon | vs. Detroit
    Week 7 | Oct. 19 | Noon | at Buffalo
    Week 8 | Oct. 26 | Noon | at Tampa Bay
    Week 9 | Nov. 2 | Noon | vs. Washington
    Week 10 | BYE
    Week 11 | Nov. 16 | Noon | at Chicago
    Week 12 | Nov. 23 | Noon | vs. Green Bay
    Week 13 | Nov. 30 | Noon | vs. Carolina
    Week 14 | Dec. 7 | Noon | vs. New York Jets
    Week 15 | Dec. 14 | Noon | at Detroit
    Week 16 | Dec. 21 | Noon | at Miami
    Week 17 | Dec. 28 | Noon | vs. Chicago
    Schedule analysis anyone? Looks like a pretty thought start to me....

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  • the_legend_killer
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    Sucks that he couldn't get healthy, but TE is a spot the Vikings are deep at. With Rudolph, Ellison and Ford they'll be fine.

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  • The_Dude
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    Good deal.

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  • Taber21
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    Carlson was released

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  • The_Dude
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    http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/M...ed_Allen022114

    First-year Minnesota Vikings head coach Mike Zimmer has other things to worry about before the NFL draft in May.

    Questions such as defensive scheme put the cart before the horse of negotiations with the Vikings' troop of free agents, which includes the team's highest-paid player from a year ago in defensive end Jared Allen.

    An otherwise candid Zimmer gave out the boilerplate quote in his Friday press conference from the NFL Scouting Combine that he's 'hopeful' the team can come to terms with Allen.

    "We'd love to sign all of our guys, obviously when I was in Cincinnati a year ago, we had a lot of free agents and weren't able to sign them all," Zimmer said. "Unfortunately in today's NFL we understand we're not going to be able to sign them all. Hopefully we can get worked out with [Allen] and we'll see how it goes."

    'Worked out' likely means a massive salary reduction from the $17 million Allen earned in 2013 to a more reasonable price for what will be a 32-year-old defensive end come next season. The Vikings already extended one 30-plus defensive end in Brian Robison last season and also have a 26-year-old Everson Griffen to continue negotiations with.

    Zimmer told NFL.com's Marc Sessler that the team 'hasn't talked about [franchise] tags at all' regarding Griffen, which falls in line with what Spielman said Thursday.

    While general manager Rick Spielman and first-year offensive coordinator Norv Turner hammer out the plan at quarterback, Zimmer's forte and immediate focus appears to be on the Vikings' defense -- which finished last in scoring (480 points allowed) and gave up a NFL-record tying 37 touchdown passes (tied for most since 1970).

    Pinning down the end next to Robison will be a key part of the equation for Zimmer to implement his style that proved successful as the defensive coordinator in Cincinnati. Regardless of who that defensive end is, Zimmer revealed the Vikings' roster needs 'a lot' of work.

    "Anytime you finish 31st in the league [in yards allowed], you have a few holes," Zimmer said. "We're going to need a lot of good football players."

    Zimmer ran a 4-3 scheme with the Bengals that predicated on a front-four pass rush and press corners that consistently thrived in man-to-man coverage. With the Vikings' personnel, it's likely Zimmer sticks with the 4-3 due to their extreme youth and age at the linebacker position.

    Although Zimmer admitted he hasn't studied any college players yet, he's already conveyed the type of players he wants in Minnesota to his scouts.

    "One of the first things we did was brought all the scouts in, put some tape on and talked about the different players we had in Cincinnati," Zimmer said. "Tried to show them: 'This is the techniques we play, this is what we're looking for.'"

    But part of getting the players that 'fit the system' is moving on from the ones that don't.

    With underwhelming players like Letroy Guion set to make $4.3 million next season and an aging Chad Greenway with a $8.2 million cap hit, shedding or restructuring players under contract -- as Spielman has noted -- will be a major part of Zimmer's roster overhaul to get the Vikings defense the way he wants it. 1500ESPN's Judd Zulgad broke down the team's free agents on Thursday.

    "I've been so involved in looking at our players, free agency, just starting to get going on the draft," Zimmer said. "Really we'll start evaluating quarterbacks once we get back after the Combine. I haven't looked at any college football players yet."

    Zimmer on Ponder

    The Vikings' current quarterback scenario may be as unstable as any in the league, but that doesn't appear to be Zimmer's place in the discussions quite yet.

    With former 12th-overall pick Christian Ponder as the only cadence caller under contract, Spielman has noted he'll lean heavily on guidance from first-year offensive coordinator Norv Turner, whose quarterback history includes passers from Troy Aikman to Kerry Collins to Brandon Weeden.

    But Zimmer reserved complete judgment of Ponder until he can get on the field with him in April (if Ponder is still there.)

    "I think everybody realizes Christian has a ton of ability, great arm, runs good, very bright guy," Zimmer said. "I think everybody wants him to live up to expectations that not only we have for him but he has for himself.

    "The patience part...I'm not a patient person with anybody. I think once we get on the field, we'll figure those things out."

    Patience is fleeting not only with Zimmer, but with most NFL front offices. The 'three-year' rule for quarterbacks has shrunk, just as the grace period for coaches has diminished. Patience is what likely earned Ponder his nine starts last season after Matt Cassel proved to be the better quarterback for the team.

    But, as Zimmer said, he's not very patient and that likely won't bode well for Ponder.
    Goodbye ****** Tampa 2. I am leaning towards the Vikings drafting Dennard (hopefully with a little trade down, but after a decent 40 time today the Vikes will probably have to grab him @ 8). A Rhodes/Dennard CB duo would be pretty sweet, especially considering who we have to play twice a year, every year.
    Last edited by The_Dude; 02-25-2014, 09:54 AM.

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  • yo123
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    Eh, he may have just come to grips with his NFL career being over and decided to come clean about everything.

    I think it's definitely possible that his release was some combination of performance/activism, and he's just in denial that he was as bad as he was towards the end. That's pretty natural among a lot of players i think.

    Kluwe has never struck me like the kind of guy that would lie about stuff like this.

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  • The_Dude
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    He wrote this letter on April 30th, after he claimed that he was "taking the high road" in regards to his release... well done Kluwe. Granted, Locke had lower averages & net yards than Kluwe did, but Kluwe has done so well that he was released by the Raiders & not signed by anyone else this year. So, of course his release was for his "activism" and not performance (or lack of) based. This is an other set up for a career writing at Deadspin/etc.

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  • the_legend_killer
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    So, Kluwe says Preifer is an asshole and Frazier/Spielman are cowards. Hmm.

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