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  • #16
    I think we absolutely need one of those 2 guys (Quinn / Peterson) at 7....or trade down, and pick up more day 1 picks.

    I think people are reeeally starting to see how those picks we gave away
    last year are affecting us this year. (replace T-Jackson or Ryan Cook with
    Maurice Jones-Drew. and think of how that'd change the needs going into this draft).....the longer the Veagles...errr Childress regime is allowed to stay the worse it looks. We've managed to take a team alot of experts had as a sleeper to make the NFC championship game (based on talent alone) and piss it away to a team that rivals some minor league / developmental squad. Childress (and this is one of the only times I've ever agreed with Swaggar) just doesn't get it, when it comes to doing what's best for the team. Give up playcalling.....get over yourself. Admit the mistakes, change them and move on.

    If we have another mediocre draft I'm going to carry a anti childress sig
    for the remainder of the season.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Severe Punishment View Post
      I think we absolutely need one of those 2 guys (Quinn / Peterson) at 7....or trade down, and pick up more day 1 picks.

      I think people are reeeally starting to see how those picks we gave away
      last year are affecting us this year. (replace T-Jackson or Ryan Cook with
      Maurice Jones-Drew. and think of how that'd change the needs going into this draft).....the longer the Veagles...errr Childress regime is allowed to stay the worse it looks. We've managed to take a team alot of experts had as a sleeper to make the NFC championship game (based on talent alone) and piss it away to a team that rivals some minor league / developmental squad. Childress (and this is one of the only times I've ever agreed with Swaggar) just doesn't get it, when it comes to doing what's best for the team. Give up playcalling.....get over yourself. Admit the mistakes, change them and move on.

      If we have another mediocre draft I'm going to carry a anti childress sig
      for the remainder of the season.

      Better get that thing ready.


      http://minnesotasportstwentyfourseven.blogspot.com/

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      • #18
        anal punishment: Another biased ignorant comment. Great work kiddo

        please explain to me why... all i ever see is some self-proclaimed know it all who shoots down any opinion that doesn't correlate with his man love for brady quinn.

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        • #19
          i think people a little bit too pesimistic to be honest.... we may not have the most talented players but this team isnt half as bad as you wanna make it out to be comparing our offense to the raiders??? thats just insane ALL the raiders have are a couple of good wide outs that dont even want to play for the team absolutly nothing else worth while of mentioning. I would personally take our offense over the raiders offense in a heart beat... we may not have all the big names on our defense but we were still #8 in the league even with no pass rush from the DE's you add any kind of pass rush to our DE's and we jump up to one of the top 5 defense's cmon people its not like we were getting blown away every game last year we were close to wining 6 more games(2 chicago games, San Fransisco, Miami, at Greenbay, and buffalo) add any kind of offense to that team last year and we are easily an 9-12 win team... This season depneds only on how will T-Jack Respond to being the starter if he plays solid we will be fine if he is horrible i see another 6-10

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Crazy_Chris View Post
            i think people a little bit too pesimistic to be honest.... we may not have the most talented players but this team isnt half as bad as you wanna make it out to be comparing our offense to the raiders??? thats just insane ALL the raiders have are a couple of good wide outs that dont even want to play for the team absolutly nothing else worth while of mentioning. I would personally take our offense over the raiders offense in a heart beat... we may not have all the big names on our defense but we were still #8 in the league even with no pass rush from the DE's you add any kind of pass rush to our DE's and we jump up to one of the top 5 defense's cmon people its not like we were getting blown away every game last year we were close to wining 6 more games(2 chicago games, San Fransisco, Miami, at Greenbay, and buffalo) add any kind of offense to that team last year and we are easily an 9-12 win team... This season depneds only on how will T-Jack Respond to being the starter if he plays solid we will be fine if he is horrible i see another 6-10
            2nd year QB's tend to hit a ceiling around the 6th game....it's from there on that you can tell what kind of player they are going to be.
            If Jackson is 1/2 way decent there still isn't enough talent to win 6 games.
            If he's terrible , we'll be lucky to win 3.
            There may be alot of negativity on this board (and in the state in general) But it's not unwarrented. We have 3 QB's who are at best question marks.
            1 RB whose solid not a franchise back, but not bad. 1/2 of an offensive line ..the other 1/2 set a record for penalties in a year. absolutely nothing
            of note at WR and our top pass catching threat at TE is a guy who was a career backup.
            On defense we have 2 stud DT's ...and zero depth behind them...2 1st round failures at DE who are either constantly on the IR or being dominated by a single blocker and unable to get pressure. The ONLY
            saving grace for end might be Ray Edwards ...which would then leave us
            with "ONLY" a desperate need for an edge rusher on 1 side and not 2.
            I like the LB corp...however they're not without major question marks.
            especially the move for EJ henderson back to the middle. If we had gone
            out and picked up a legit MLB henderson would've been allowed to stay at WLB where he dominated last year...well, we didn't and now he's going to be asked to anchor the LB's again...if he fails like he did 2 years ago...we'll quickly go from the 8th overall D to the 28th.
            The CB's (outside of Winfield whose a stud) can't seem to stay out of trouble and aren't that deep to begin with. Considering we were 31st
            against the pass...it's not the type of thing that's going to instill a ton
            of hope for us fans that they'll be better.

            Safety is probably the deepest positino on the team...and yes, there's more question marks. Is Sharper to old ? was last year a fluke ? will moving back to the FS positon going to turn his game back in time ?
            Is Tank Williams going to be able to play a real game for the first time in 3 years ?...and did Dwight Smith do enough strength training drills to make some 1on1 tackles ?


            I realize we sign a high jumper for WR and another Philly cast off and typically what happens is expecation oversees realistic rationalization....however, until we get some REAL talent in here...i don't
            expect the typical "We're going to win 8-12 game" predictions that tend to follow the drafts.

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            • #21
              ya know i just think its sad when we are more pesimistic about our upcoming season than Detroit Fans.

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              • #22
                Its been a despressing year, bungles management, arrests, stagnent offense, shoddy pass defense, poor draft days and general poor play. Its hard to get excited, but rest assured I will be out there with the best of them on Opening Day.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by tylere0814 View Post
                  Heres the way i see it. Whomever the browns draft, whether it be Brady Quinn or Adrian Peterson. I think we will have a very good chance at taking the other. Personally i'd be happy with either, depending on who we take will greatly affect the rest of our off season.

                  IF WE SELECT ADRIAN PETERSON:

                  TJack goes into the season as the starter, full of confidence. Struggles, but has a solid run game that takes a lot of the weight off of his back (just like Kyle Orton in 05).

                  Chester Taylor and Adrian Peterson both have great seasons. Taylors runs for 1200 yds and 9 tds, and AD runs for 1100 yds and 11tds and is runner up for ROY behind Calvin Johnson.

                  i like this way better just because our offense can look somewhat good. ap would be a great addition to a struggling offense and would take some of the load off chester taylor. having to good backs would also take some pressure off of Tjack. knowing that he can hand the ball off to a good back will always take pressure off of a young quarterback. and it might actually make our stingy recieving crew look half way decent

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                  • #24
                    Well the critisim is going to happen when you trade a former probowl qb for well a second string Guard
                    Then you allow our best wideout to become a restricted free agent and the key ingrident for revenge. Which by the way they shoved back in our face by making him a bench warmer.
                    Then You dismiss the veteren qb for a second year Qb who didnt even play Division one football Because he got beat out by well a thrid string receiver on another NFL team.
                    I dont see the guy Hines Ward beat out at georgia starting any where in the nfl. I could be wrong but im pretty sure im not.
                    Then for insurance you go and get a Wisconsin product who was a very average college qb and a back up in the nfl
                    and a Career journeyman already He isnt sure what career or where hes going

                    Then you bring in the next Preist Holmes and he looks more like the Old TIKI Barber if only he wouldnt fumble.

                    Then not only did you not move up in last years draft in the first round to get Young or lienart You wait and move up in the second round and get a guy who got beat out at qb by a freaking wide receiver

                    Then as if all this wasnt enough YOU promise us disipline and the only Disipline we saw anyone get happened in a stair way to our free safty that you brought in by a ten dollar hooker

                    The guy is supposed to be a Offensive guru yet last year was the first time he called any plays. And I dont remember the last time Our offense was on defense so much. It is never good when Our Offense is being out scored by their defense.

                    GEE YOUR RIGHT WHY ARENT WE ALL HAPPY SHINY PEOPLE DR PHIL?

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                    • #25
                      Well the critisim is going to happen when you trade a former probowl qb for well a second string Guard
                      Pure Speculation, fact is dont know if Cook is a second stringer for his career, a solid starter, or a pro-bowler to early to make judgements as far as i can see looks like we didnt give up much looking at culpepper now...

                      Then you allow our best wideout to become a restricted free agent and the key ingrident for revenge. Which by the way they shoved back in our face by making him a bench warmer.
                      if your so angry about losing Nate Burelson because the seahawks got mad that we took steve hutchinson than theres something wrong with you because there is a reason he didnt play much this season... and all the while he was sitting on there bench Hutch was earning another ticket to the pro-bowl so i ask who got the better end out of that deal?


                      Then You dismiss the veteren qb for a second year Qb who didnt even play Division one football Because he got beat out by well a thrid string receiver on another NFL team.
                      I dont see the guy Hines Ward beat out at georgia starting any where in the nfl. I could be wrong but im pretty sure im not.
                      we didnt dismiss B.Johnson for a second year guy he was a ROOKIE big difference. Also I dont think it was the right move but leaving the B.Johnson in there definatly wasn't going to get us to the playoffs with all the mistakes he was making he looked like a Rookie out there... Also T-jack did play division one foor ball Alabama St. is a division 1 AA school...

                      Then you bring in the next Preist Holmes and he looks more like the Old TIKI Barber if only he wouldnt fumble.
                      your insanse if you say Chester Taylor looks like the old tiki barber please get your eyes checked, Taylor Fumbled FOUR times this season the old tiki barber averaged 9 fumbles where do you get 9 from four?? ... and i also if i remember Priest holmes did very well for himself in KC until Larry Johnson burst onto the scene

                      Then not only did you not move up in last years draft in the first round to get Young or lienart You wait and move up in the second round and get a guy who got beat out at qb by a freaking wide receiver
                      thats irrealevant because looking back to last year no one expected us to not have Brad Johnson for 2-4 more years so childress had the luxury to take a pet project and i agree that Jackson was a good choice for the time although i would have liked to see cutler

                      Then as if all this wasnt enough YOU promise us disipline and the only Disipline we saw anyone get happened in a stair way to our free safty that you brought in by a ten dollar hooker
                      righttttt and this "lack" of discipline is exactly why koren robinson our best receiver/returner was sent packing. And as i remember that same FS Dwight smith was sat out of the season opener for the stairway incident, and smoot saw the most of the discipline which is ultimatly why he isnt here anymore because while he was warming the bench as his punishment, Cedric griffin was out on the feild stealing his job

                      GEE YOUR RIGHT WHY ARENT WE ALL HAPPY SHINY PEOPLE DR PHIL?
                      No one said you need to be all happy and shiny all im saying is that if you have your head up your ass 24/7 your going to see/smell *****
                      Last edited by Crazy_Chris; 04-20-2007, 03:06 AM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Crazy_Chris View Post
                        This season depneds only on how will T-Jack Respond to being the starter if he plays solid we will be fine if he is horrible i see another 6-10
                        If our defense can perform like it did the first half of last season, and Childress can call plays on offense that start scoring points for us more often than for the other team we should be able to go .500 at least.

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                        • #27
                          I do believe jackson is a second year player now dipshit
                          second this is in one years time he has done this much damage how long should we keep him?

                          Well once he takes your boy meachum and hes a bust and he will be maybe wilf will maybe see the light


                          And finally nate burleson would of by far been our best receiver and he was more consitant then koren robinson. Again I point out Production not fantasy numbers. Its obvious your a HOMER thats great but wake up and smell the coffee the man has done more damage to this team then even Dennis Green was able to do in ten years. Atleast with Denny we had a qb. Now we have a qb who got beat out at qb by the jags number 5 receiver wow how does that make ya feel.

                          Oh yeah your Brad's son so it makes ya proud of pops. Hes the best thing that happened to the Lions Bears and Packers since Tampa Bay left!!!!!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Kid_Ego View Post
                            Well once he takes your boy meachum and hes a bust and he will be maybe wilf will maybe see the light
                            Meachum is going to be far from a bust. He's got first round talent thats most likely going to go in the second round.


                            Originally posted by Kid_Ego View Post
                            And finally nate burleson would of by far been our best receiver and he was more consitant then koren robinson. Again I point out Production not fantasy numbers. Its obvious your a HOMER thats great but wake up and smell the coffee the man has done more damage to this team then even Dennis Green was able to do in ten years. Atleast with Denny we had a qb. Now we have a qb who got beat out at qb by the jags number 5 receiver wow how does that make ya feel.
                            It's not like we have been able to see much of Tjack anyways. He only started like 4 games this year and there were sparks of goodness in him. give the guy a chance before you say he sucks. and not to mention the whole thing about burleson, id much rather have steve hutchinson than nate burleson any day. and if you remember, burleson struggled when moss left because he felt a lot of the load was on him. and not to mention the pressure from fans saying that he was our #1 reciever. now dont get me wrong here, burleson was a good guy and had good hands but he struggled in his last year in minny.

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                            • #29
                              I'm not buying Meachem lasting til the 2nd.
                              Cj, Ted Ginn, Meachem and Bowe are all going to go first round
                              D-Jarrett, Sid, Rice, A.Gonzalez, J.Hill and St.Smith will all go in the 2nd.
                              J.Jones, C.Davis, C.Taylor and either Paul Williams or Aundre Allison go in the 3rd.
                              If the Vikes wait to long to take a WR, we'll have very little to choose from.

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                              • #30
                                I guarantee we won't take a WR in the first three rounds. Childress will take another "project" player.


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