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  • Originally posted by TigerBait45 View Post
    Oh saints..you never change.
    LOL, pretty much. But their our team and I wouldn't trade them for anything.
    The whole world loves neophyte athletic tight end Jimmy Graham from Miami with the 95th pick. "Best pick in the draft,'' one AFC coach told me. "Give him time, and in that offense, he'll be better than [Jeremy] Shockey by the start of next year.''

    “We know that no matter the adversity, be it the lockout, be it the suspension or be it a hurricane, our men will pull together and defend the honor of this city. We’ve shown we’ve been able to do that.” - Jabari Greer

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    • Haha, yeah, I know what you mean.

      You just learn to expect stuff like that after so long. I mean..they've been doing it for 40 years.

      Whether its blowing a 28 point 4th quarter lead or losing on a game tying play, they'll find a way to do it.

      And I'll never give up on them.

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      • Originally posted by TigerBait45 View Post
        Haha, yeah, I know what you mean.

        You just learn to expect stuff like that after so long. I mean..they've been doing it for 40 years.

        Whether its blowing a 28 point 4th quarter lead or losing on a game tying play, they'll find a way to do it.

        And I'll never give up on them.
        I think its the same with all the fans of the Saints.

        Suffering is what unites the Brotherhood of the Fleur-De-Lis.

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        • Its always the what if factor that pulls you back in, I think. Well what if they turn it around this year.

          Then they don't and we wonder what we were thinking.

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          • The thing is.. they were supposed to have figured it out last season. The culture of losing in New Orleans was supposed to be changed by a Coach of the year, and big things were expected for the future...

            and instead it seems like this team has regressed in every aspect of the game. Which is very disappointing considering the current state of the NFC, I mean outside of Dallas, and Green Bay this season no one has looked above average, and we floundered an opportunity to take advantage.

            In the end all is not lost, things in the NFL change quickly...cellar dwellers frequently rise up to competitiveness and visa versa. There are some solid building blocks on this team set in place, with some wise Drafting and Personnel moves we can be right back in the thick of things by next season. Depending if Payton learns and grows as a Head Coach, and how some of our key young players develop. (Bush, Colston, Harper...etc)

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            • Originally posted by Auron View Post
              The thing is.. they were supposed to have figured it out last season. The culture of losing in New Orleans was supposed to be changed by a Coach of the year, and big things were expected for the future...

              and instead it seems like this team has regressed in every aspect of the game. Which is very disappointing considering the current state of the NFC, I mean outside of Dallas, and Green Bay this season no one has looked above average, and we floundered an opportunity to take advantage.

              In the end all is not lost, things in the NFL change quickly...cellar dwellers frequently rise up to competitiveness and visa versa. There are some solid building blocks on this team set in place, with some wise Drafting and Personnel moves we can be right back in the thick of things by next season. Depending if Payton learns and grows as a Head Coach, and how some of our key young players develop. (Bush, Colston, Harper...etc)
              I actually have not been impressed with Harper at all. I don't like him in coverage at all and he frequently takes bad angles. I've been impressed with Josh Bullocks actually. If we had a corner who could actually play in front of him instead of placing all of the pressure solely on top of shoulders then I think he'd be a great FS. Actually, something I've considered, is what if Bullocks was placed at SS? He has the speed and tackling ability to blitz and would have our best corner playing in front of him. I think it'd work.

              It is evident what changes need to be made. I'm wondering what Usama Young's role will be next year. I don't want us to invest a first round draft pick on a cornerback and stunt his growth. I think LB and DT are our biggest needs. We also need some big time help along the offensive front and I'm hesitant to say that we should move Jammal Brown back to RT and try to go after a LT.
              I am not impressed with Reggie Bush at all. He needs to be used more as a WR than up the gut RB. I would have figured Payton would have figured that out.

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              • Both Harper and Bullocks have had their struggles, more often than I would like. I think both are prone towards peeking into the backfield, and blowing coverages.. Neither are great tacklers, Harper is a big hitter but his technique and consistency can be improved on. They are both relatively young so my thought is with time they will improve as a Safety tandem, but they keep making the same mistakes over and over. I'd give them a shot, but if there is a prime talent and opportunity to upgrade the position say a Kenny Phillips available to us in Round 1 I don't think either should prevent us from taking him.

                I'd like to see Usama get more playing time at Corner as the season winds down..have to see what kind of role he can be depended on for next season. Trying to acquire blue chip talent at LB and DT is almost mandatory this off-season, we've been getting by with below optimal talent at those positions for too long. Offensive Line could definitely use an upgrade, I'm not ready to give up on Jammal Brown at Left Tackle quite yet... his play has declined somewhat from last year but he's still shown has potential to be a good player at that position, but I agree his play must improve if we are to have success as an Offense. Perhaps if we slide low enough and somehow Jake Long is available.. it could become an option. Otherwise I'd like to acquire a new Interior Guard to replace Nesbit (who IMO has become a hinderance in the run game, he just doesn't have the athleticism to pull, and get to the outside on outside toss, sweeps, and screen plays) Would like to go after Faneca in the Off-season.

                Bush isn't living up to expectations, I'm disappointed but the situation is what it is. Once Deuce went out with the injury... we really didn't have anyone to carry the heavy duty burden in the run game, and Reggie was forced into a situation he was not ready for. I think if somehow Deuce comes back partially effective, or we can find a decent compliment back for Bush that will bring some level of stability back to the Offense.

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                • This was a good one but it did not seem complete.

                  Pierre Thomas still needs to get the ball more.

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                  • Beating the Falcons is never a bad thing... Brees played like a franchise QB, and Colston is a monster.

                    Stecker / Pierre Thomas ran the ball hard, and we managed to get some pressure on the QB for the most part. However we still played the Falcons, another team in pretty bad shape, with a deteriorated O-line...

                    but whatever winning feels good so I'll be happy for this week at least. :)
                    Last edited by Auron; 12-11-2007, 12:32 AM.

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                    • I thought Stecker ran strong for most of the night, but I didn't realize he went an impressive 20 for 100, and a few catches of course, until looking at the stat sheet. Nice job, I think the capable veteran can do a solid job as the starting back in what is a hopeful run to the playoffs by the Saints these last few weeks.
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                      • Thoughts on the upcoming game vs. the Cardinals? We're at Home and favored by 3.5 I believe.. which makes me nervous... because we haven't played well at Home this season.

                        I think if we ride momentum and take care of business we should be able to control the flow of the game. Jumping out early, using the passing game to set up the run for Stecker/P.Thomas... blitz Warner and take away the ground game. However this could very easily turn into a repeat of the Rams game. Fitzgerald/Boldin and the rest of those receivers are more than capable of eating our Secondary up, if we don't get the necessary pressure on Warner. The Cardinals Defense can be tricky too, they've given up some big plays lately but they have some players, and Defensive looks that can generate confusion, and pressure. Offensive Line must be up to the task in this one...

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                        • Originally posted by Auron View Post
                          Thoughts on the upcoming game vs. the Cardinals? We're at Home and favored by 3.5 I believe.. which makes me nervous... because we haven't played well at Home this season.

                          I think if we ride momentum and take care of business we should be able to control the flow of the game. Jumping out early, using the passing game to set up the run for Stecker/P.Thomas... blitz Warner and take away the ground game. However this could very easily turn into a repeat of the Rams game. Fitzgerald/Boldin and the rest of those receivers are more than capable of eating our Secondary up, if we don't get the necessary pressure on Warner. The Cardinals Defense can be tricky too, they've given up some big plays lately but they have some players, and Defensive looks that can generate confusion, and pressure. Offensive Line must be up to the task in this one...
                          I have a hard time seeing us winning out. I have the same worries about the Cards game that you do, Auron.

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                          • Just my prediction, Warner is going to put on a greatest show on turf style performance with 4 TD and 300+ yards since Quan and Fitz are both back. Henderson will beat us deep once for 40+ yards for a TD, and Colston will run over Holt for a TD at least once, the key for both teams will be the running game, which ever offense can keep the other off the field will end up winning this game

                            Cardinals 38 Saints 24

                            Had to post so I could come back and say I told you so, of course if we get our ass beat i will man up and eat my crow as well

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                            • I doubt Boldin plays, he was wearing a boot through Wednesday and only did limited (whatever that was) practice for Thursday and Friday. Plus Larry Fitzgerald isn't 100 percent, but I suspect he'll still have a good day against McKenzie (assuming the Saints keep him at RCB like they did last week).
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                              • Originally posted by Geo View Post
                                I doubt Boldin plays, he was wearing a boot through Wednesday and only did limited (whatever that was) practice for Thursday and Friday. Plus Larry Fitzgerald isn't 100 percent, but I suspect he'll still have a good day against McKenzie (assuming the Saints keep him at RCB like they did last week).
                                My sources say he is going to play and that what ever Whiz is telling the media is basically BS

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