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  • #31
    Here's something I wrote in the NFL Official Game Day Thread Week 1 thread that I thought I would share with everyone here.

    Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
    Payton reminds me of Charlie Weis in a sense that he needs a very good DC. He doesn't know how to build, run, teach, or adjust a defense for his life. NO needs to dedicate this offseason to defense, because they definately have tons of holes. Patchwork and smoke and mirros can work for a year, but to have continuous consistent success in this league you have to have talent. And right now, theres a major lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball.

    I think teams are gonna start max protecting and airing it out against the Saints. The offense is gonna have to score alot of points this year.
    In response to your first paragraph, that's what I was saying all offseason. The Saints needed to go defense, defense, defense especially in the draft. After watching this game, it has me more upset that we didn't draft Paul Posluszny or Chris Houston. I applaud the Saints for trying to bring in some free agents who they felt could help the team. We went after and signed S Kevin Kaesviharn, CB Jason David, LB Brian Simmons, and DT Kendrick Clancy which is all fine and dandy, however, only two of them started the game last night. I understand why Kaesviharn didn't start, Bullocks and Harper are the Saints starting safeties, but why Brian Simmons didn't start over Mark Simoneau is just confusing. I know Simmons skill set is more suited towards OLB but he is an upgrade over Simoneau at the Mike and should have been inserted as the starter, plain and simple. Why did we go after him in the offseason if we were going to keep Simoneau in as the starting MLB?
    The Saints should also have had Kendrick Clancy and Hollis Thomas as their starting DT's. Thomas should start at the nose with Clancy playing the gap. I know both of them have kind of similar skill sets with both having the ability to stop the run, but Clancy is more athletic and quicker than Thomas so he can do what the injured Brian Young did last year which is shoot the gap as well as play the run.

    One thing that the Colts did that caught my eye is direct most of the runs to the outside. I thought it was odd that they were rushing in the direction of what is supposed to be the two studs of the Saints defense, Will Smith and Charles Grant, but it worked out and here's why. The Colts took advantage of Smith and Grant's aggressiveness. With those two DE's rushing the passer as they did last night, the quick Joseph Addai merely ran around them. Tony Ugoh did an admirable job against Will Smith although there were a few penalties that were not called against him. Ryan Diem also did his usual good job against Charles Grant.

    The biggest problem, however, is the Saints secondary and despite their offseason acquisitions it still remains questionable. I did not think the Saints did enough in the offseason to adequately upgrade their secondary and this game proved it. Mike McKenzie is another year older and just is not the type of shutdown cornerback that we thought he would be when we brought him to New Orleans back in 2004. Jason David, while a definite upgrade over Fred Thomas, is not the type of corner that the Saints need in their man-to-man scheme. If Defensive Coordinator Gary Gibbs would have shifted to a more zone oriented scheme then Jason David would have been a better fit, however, I'm not sure where Roman Harper or Mike McKenzie would have fit in. Suffice to say, the Saints still need corner help which is something I've been preaching for a while. Still another reason why I am not happy with us drafting Robert Meachem with our first round pick this year.

    While against a lesser quarterback than Peyton Manning the Saints corners will more than likely play better, Peyton just set the blue print for how to beat them which brings me to the second point. I feel you have hit the nail right on the head when you say that teams are going to max protect and start airing it out against the Saints. If they do that then there is no way our defensive personnel can stop them. We just do not have the guys to be able to stop it. Another point too is that the Saints offensive line HAS to do a better job of blocking. They looked piss poor last night but I do blame some of that on the play calling. They tried running too much misdirection, draw, and gimmick plays that take up too much time, which the Saints offensive line is not built for. They need to keep with the three step drop that they did last year and let Brees quickly get rid of the ball. They can't call plays that require the five to seven step drop because he will get pressured/sacked most of the time which is what happened last night against the Colts.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by diabsoule View Post
      The biggest problem, however, is the Saints secondary and despite their offseason acquisitions it still remains questionable. I did not think the Saints did enough in the offseason to adequately upgrade their secondary and this game proved it. Mike McKenzie is another year older and just is not the type of shutdown cornerback that we thought he would be when we brought him to New Orleans back in 2004. Jason David, while a definite upgrade over Fred Thomas, is not the type of corner that the Saints need in their man-to-man scheme. If Defensive Coordinator Gary Gibbs would have shifted to a more zone oriented scheme then Jason David would have been a better fit, however, I'm not sure where Roman Harper or Mike McKenzie would have fit in. Suffice to say, the Saints still need corner help which is something I've been preaching for a while. Still another reason why I am not happy with us drafting Robert Meachem with our first round pick this year.
      I hate to admit but the thing that upsets me the most is in essence we pretty much are the same team that lost in the NFC Championship game, except with some minor upgrades and depth at select positions. I kind of overrated some of our off-season acquisitions. Now that isn't a terrible thing, seeing as that team made it to the NFC Title game, but for a team looking to take the next step and become a Super Bowl contender we may not have done enough.

      Mostly on the Defensive side of the ball, it just seems that we lack overall talent level on that side of the ball. I thought our Defense held their own in the 1st half before the the roof caved in and that our Offense really hung them out to dry but at the end of the day we still don’t have enough difference makers on that side of the ball. Firstly we have a big weakness at Linebacker. Mark Simoneau and Scott Shanle are liabilities against the run.. They overrun plays, struggle to get off blocks and make tackles, and don’t naturally attack running lanes. I think if Simmons were a clear upgrade he would be starting right now but coming off a knee injury he may have lost a step, and might not be effective it might not matter however if we keep giving up 164 yards rushing on 5.7 yards per carry he might just start anyway... We still are weak up the middle and don’t have a disruptive presence at DT. I’m willing to give Jason David a shot, that was a bad performance but being on island covering Wayne, and Harrison with Peyton Manning throwing them the ball is murder for any CB.

      We need better Gap control at Linebacker, an Instinctive MLB with sideline to sideline range, a disruptive DT who can collapse the pocket from the interior and prevent the QB from stepping up in the pocket to avoid the outside rush, a situational speed rusher with an explosive 1st step who we can use on 3rd downs just to get after the QB, and possibly another cover corner before I think this can be a significantly good Defense.

      There’s still a chance that the Defense is improved over last years version. Manning and the Colts have made even good Defenses look bad before and maybe I'm overreacting too much into 1 game, but one thing is for certain our Offense must perform significantly better than what they showed on Thursday if we are to be successful.
      Last edited by Auron; 09-08-2007, 01:12 PM.

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      • #33
        Auron, in response to your post that is why I thought we should have definitely gone after Paul Posluszny in the draft rather than Robert Meachem. I was not fond of any of the DT's that were available in the draft and was happy with the signing of Kendrick Clancy. I do wish that if we would have drafted Puz that we could have gone after another linebacker like Stephen Nicholas, Tim Shaw, or H.B. Blades. That would have given us one starter and possibly another one in a few years and would have upgrade our LB corps.

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        • #34
          Ok it's time to move on and focus on next Sunday's game against the Buccaneers. Only Week 2 but as a Divisional opponent this is a very important game.

          Week 2 - Saints @ Buccaneers
          vs.
          Sunday, September 16th. 1:00 PM (Eastern)

          This next game will show us what this team is truly made of and will be a good test of their mental toughness. Can the team huddle up together, put the past behind them, come out and play a complete game with something to prove? Or will the after effects from that discouraging loss linger and lower our level of play? I believe we have the right type of leadership and coaching on this team to move forward and learn from past mistakes.

          Some of my keys to winning this game
          - I hope to see better preparation from a Game Planning standpoint from the Coaching staff in this game. We really didn't adjust very well at all to what the Colts were doing in the opener. The Colts Defense wasn't fooled much by our screens, draws, and misdirection runs and we didn't seem to have much of a back up plan.

          - The Bucs also run a Base Cover-2 Defense so we'll see how well the players and coaching staff can adjust. IMO the best way to attack the Cover 2 Defense is to attack the middle of the field. Stretch the field vertically with the Slot WR, and or TE and hit the underneath routes. Once you get the Line Backers playing tight you can attack the seam downfield behind the LB level, and in front of the Safeties. Of course we must be able to run the ball well. To keep the pass rushers from teeing off, and to have manageable down and distance situations.

          - Our WRs must release off the Line of scrimmage better. Too many times they were jammed at the line by the Colts corners, which disrupted their timing and ability to get into routes properly. Which really threw our passing game off. It goes without saying the Offensive line must play significantly better in Pass protection to give Brees a chance at actually setting up and stepping into his throws. The overall execution especially on 3rd down must improve.

          - On Defense there really is no way we can give up the same kind of yardage on the Ground that we did. Better gap control, and tackling are the key. I suspect Tampa will try to attack our Corners downfield with Galloway so the Safeties need to be ready.
          Last edited by Auron; 09-12-2007, 11:18 AM.

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          • #35
            I like the Saints' chances this week, even if it's on the road.

            Imo, after experiencing the speed of the Colts, they will be quite ready for the Bucs on both sides of the ball. There might be some concern for the heat, I suppose, but the team is deep at RB and WR. I think we'll see the offense do some good things, maybe better utilizing Reggie and Duece (or giving them more touches to make things happen, at least), and Brees looking more like the Top 5 QB he is.

            The Bucs don't really have a deep threat other than Joey Galloway, and he's a wise veteran who will likely get his ~5 catches and ~90 yards by the time the game is over. I doubt the Saints defensive line goes sackless this week, and having Caddy and Brian Kelly dinged up certainly doesn't help the Bucs.
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            • #36
              I'm not worried about the heat factor the Saints held 2 a days at their training camp in Jackson, Mississippi where the Heat index often topped 95+ degrees.

              I think a big factor in last week's loss that was sort of overlooked. Was maybe we just weren't prepared for the hostile enviroment in the RCA Dome. The tempo the ceremony set up really got the crowd emotionally fired up. Add to that we had to go with a Silent Count, which the Colts D-linemen could easily get a read on and jump. Put us at another disadvantage.

              I need to keep tracking the status of Brian Kelly, and Cadillac but them being questionable to play would be a blow. I'm actually worried about Michael Pittman he's a big, bruising, downhill style runner. Exactly the type of back that can grind out our Defense. (Ladell Betts last season)

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              • #37
                This game should definitely show us where the Saints are at. I'm hoping we see an extremely impressive performance out of them this week.

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                • #38
                  I'm hoping for a very impressive blowout, but I'll just take the win at this point.
                  The whole world loves neophyte athletic tight end Jimmy Graham from Miami with the 95th pick. "Best pick in the draft,'' one AFC coach told me. "Give him time, and in that offense, he'll be better than [Jeremy] Shockey by the start of next year.''

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                  • #39
                    I'm not able to get the game.. but what is going on? I'm trying to follow on NFL.com we're down 14-0, and just committed 2 Offensive holding penalties on 1 drive.

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                    • #40
                      I'm almost speechless, there's not really much I can say but this team needs an identity check they look nothing like last year. Where is the creative playcalling that keeps Defenses off guard? Where is the passion and intensity?

                      Judging by the NFC and particularly the way the South is shaping 0-2 is not impossible to bounce back from; But it will be.. if we continue to play like this for the rest of the season.

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                      • #41
                        6-10 here we come.

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                        • #42
                          The good news is that if we continue to play like this we'll end up with a high draft pick so we can get an awesome linebacker or cornerback.

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                          • #43
                            It'd be pretty cool to get Dorsey out of the deal. I haven't given up hope yet but its fading fast. This team just can't stop anyone.

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                            • #44
                              I'd like to have Dorsey or Dan Conner. Three things are apparent: we need an impact DT, an impact LB, and an impact CB.

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                              • #45
                                Dan Connor would be awesome too. Or maybe Talib from Kansas.

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