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  • The fact that we could use a veteran WR it would be a good thing to have him around, but I don't about signing a player that we might not get much production out of. Kind of on the fence with this one.



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    • No new updates as of yet on the whole Charles Grant situation... there's a lot of talk on the main forum about it, but so far, I haven't heard any news from either side.

      According to NOLA.com, the Saints have brought in several wide receivers, including Colts WR Brandon Stokely and also Seattle WR Bobby Engram (which I haven't heard anything about) and soon, Chargers WR Keenan McCardell as well as showing interest in trading for Seattle's Darrell Jackson. It seems that the Saints are looking to add another wide receiver after losing Joe Horn, but I personally would enjoy it more if we'd address this "need" during the Draft, instead of getting an aging veteran.

      Another position that we haven't addressed in free agency is defensive tackle, and as it is, there are still several options still out there, including both Chicago DTs Ian Scott and Alfonso Boone, and the 49ers' Anthony Adams. I wouldn't mind if the Saints sign one of these three and then maybe invest a mid-rounder for a capable back-up to add depth.

      So, I'm quite curious to see what the Saints do with the remainder of free agency.

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      • Originally posted by Saints Dome Patrol View Post
        Another position that we haven't addressed in free agency is defensive tackle, and as it is, there are still several options still out there, including both Chicago DTs Ian Scott and Alfonso Boone, and the 49ers' Anthony Adams. I wouldn't mind if the Saints sign one of these three and then maybe invest a mid-rounder for a capable back-up to add depth.
        According to Sveen, our Scandinavian source for Saints news, the Chiefs have signed Bears defensive tackle Alfonso Boone.

        Well, maybe the Saints could still go after Ian Scott or Anthony Adams.

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        • Originally posted by Saints Dome Patrol View Post
          According to Sveen, our Scandinavian source for Saints news
          I like that title :)



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          • Originally posted by Sveen View Post
            I like that title :)
            I figured you would... :)

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            • I wouldn't mind seeing Charles Grant go to Tampa Bay, under certain conditions. The Bucs aren't going to trade the no. 4 pick for him, but you could ask for both their second round pics and a first next year. I wouldn't give him away, but I doubt you will see them give up the no. 4 this year, which defiently should be used on calvin johnson and their one next year.

              What a dream trio of wideouts for brees to work with. Johnson one one side, Colston on the other, with devery in the slot, it would cause nightmares for defensive coaches.

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              • Calvin Johnson to the Saints. I think you might be dreaming ;)

                Nice thought though :D



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                • Originally posted by Saints Dome Patrol View Post
                  Not particularly interested in a 37-year-old wide receiver whose production has dropped off in the last few years... kind of reminds me of another wide out that we released a week or so ago... hmm...
                  There is a very big difference here. The big money in Joe Horn's contract was to start kicking in this year; I believe his cap number was over $5 million. The money was the primary reason we let Joe go, and his recent lack of production just made it that much easier.

                  McCardell could be had for a pretty cheap price. His production dropped off LAST YEAR, not the last few years. Look at his 05 season (his last season with Drew); he was a very solid starter.

                  Now, maybe I didn't clarify. I don't expect him to produce like a 25, 30, or even a 35 year old version of Keenan McCardell produced. That would be flat out silly to expect. What I do think he would bring to our receiving corps is a veteran presence with reliable hands for a cheap price tag. Something very much like Ricky Proehl was for the Carolina Panthers a few years ago. They signed him at age 36, and he went on to have three seasons of solid, reliable play as the #3 or #4 receiver.

                  I'm having a hard time understanding how anybody could be against this.
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                  • This kind of got overshadowed, but the Carolina Panthers signed unrestricted free agent Terrence Melton to an undisclosed amount.

                    So who's with me and thinks that we need to draft a linebacker during day one come April?

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                    • Originally posted by Saints Dome Patrol View Post
                      This kind of got overshadowed, but the Carolina Panthers signed unrestricted free agent Terrence Melton to an undisclosed amount.

                      So who's with me and thinks that we need to draft a linebacker during day one come April?
                      I think we have a lot more needs than expected. I'd rank the Needs like this.

                      1. Cornerback (s)
                      2. Defensive Tackle (run stuffing)
                      3. Complimentary Wide Receiver (crisp route runner)
                      4. Linebacker Depth
                      5. Tight End (groom for the future)

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                      • Originally posted by Auron View Post
                        I think we have a lot more needs than expected. I'd rank the Needs like this.

                        1. Cornerback (s)
                        2. Defensive Tackle (run stuffing)
                        3. Complimentary Wide Receiver (crisp route runner)
                        4. Linebacker Depth
                        5. Tight End (groom for the future)
                        I don't disagree with you. I think that the lack of activity of the Saints so far during free agency has really made it make or break come the Draft.

                        Don't get me wrong, the Saints have a good core of players, but there are still positions that could use upgrading or depth, or even both.

                        I agree, the biggest need should be cornerback, followed by defensive tackle, but then I'd put linebacker a little higher than wide receiver (especially if the Saints sign one of the several wide outs they've brought in for visits), then tight end and finally, offensive guard, kicker and quarterback.

                        Again, that's my opinion, but I think that most would agree.

                        Definitely cornerback should be our main priority come April.

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                        • I'm not too disappointed in the off-season. So far the Saints have made it a priority to retain most of current players they got to the NFC Championship game with. To ensure continuity, and avoid a lot of turn over. I think they've made upgrades at MLB, and TE. As well as add depth at Safety.

                          The CB situation is shaky right now, but I have full confidence that it will be addressed. Last year they made some Draft day moves to acquire 2 positions of need. A Center (Faine), and DT (Hollis). I wouldn't be surprised to see something similar during this Draft.

                          I actually think we still have a quite a bit of building to do. Just last year this was a team in full re-building mode coming off a 3-13 season, they've come a long way since then but there is still work to do.

                          Which is why I'm glad Payton & Co. have 9 Draft picks to work this year. I have full trust in them because this staff seems to know exactly what they are looking for in regards to bringing in players that can help the team. (Only missing on 2 picks last year Lay, and Hass) I think the Draft is where they'll shine once again and bring this team another step closer toward being top contenders.
                          Last edited by Auron; 03-18-2007, 10:47 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by Auron View Post
                            I'm not too disappointed in the off-season. So far the Saints have made it a priority to retain most of current players they got to the NFC Championship game with. To ensure continuity, and avoid a lot of turn over. I think they've made upgrades at MLB, and TE. As well as add depth at Safety.

                            The CB situation is shaky right now, but I have full confidence that it will be addressed. Last year they made some Draft day moves to acquire 2 positions of need. A Center (Faine), and DT (Hollis). I wouldn't be surprised to see something similar during this Draft.

                            I actually think we still have a quite a bit of building to do. Just last year this was a team in full re-building mode coming off a 3-13 season, they've come a long way since then but there is still work to do.

                            Which is why I'm glad Payton & Co. have 9 Draft picks to work this year. I have full trust in them because this staff seems to know exactly what they are looking for in regards to bringing in players that can help the team. (Only missing on 2 picks last year Lay, and Hass) I think the Draft is where they'll shine once again and bring this team another step closer toward being top contenders.
                            *yawn*

                            Oh I'm sorry, the lack of news in free agency these last few days are making me sleepy.

                            Now, I don't disagree that the Saints have done fairly well in signing players to add depth to some key positions, but I will say that they have 1.) done a poor job keeping several of their own players and 2.) have let several other free agents leave town without any agreements.

                            The former doesn't bother me as much as the latter, to be completely honest. Losing players like linebackers Terrence Melton and Danny Clark and even, and it still hurts, wide receiver Joe Horn to free agency isn't as bad as missing out on several names in free agency that could have really helped us out.

                            That said, I still believe (or maybe I just hope) that the Saints are not done in free agency. Both defensive tackles Anthony Adams and Ian Scott are still available and there are other players that might be able to help add depth to our team.

                            I also agree that even after the turnaround from 3-13 to the playoffs that New Orleans is not done rebuilding. There are still several weak spots on the team, primarily on defense, and other positions that could use quality depth.

                            Looking back on last year's draft, it's funny to say that at that time, I thought that the Saints had a mediocre draft at best.

                            I remember commenting that the Saints should have traded away their first round selection to the Jets, and gotten both their first rounders and possibly a mid round pick. Instead, the Saints stayed put and got Reggie Bush, who has shown some flashes of brilliance and could be a premier all-purpose back in a few years.

                            I won't go through every pick at this point (since I'm about to pass out) but needless to say, I wasn't totally big on the Saints' draft last season. There wasn't one pick I was really excited about, but boy, now it looks like the Saints came out better than expected (Marques Colston, anyone?) with not only their picks, but also trading down and picking up two big name free agents, and as it is, a few of their picks still have tremendous upside.

                            Hopefully, the Saints will continue to address some needs in free agency and then come April, be able to really help out our team with some solid selections in the Draft.

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                            • Now, I don't disagree that the Saints have done fairly well in signing players to add depth to some key positions, but I will say that they have 1.) done a poor job keeping several of their own players and 2.) have let several other free agents leave town without any agreements.
                              I don't really think this was a strong Free Agent class. Other than Clements which high impact Free agent do you think we really missed out on? Having someone like Hood would've been very nice but he was very unproven only being a Nickelback in his career. Other than that I saw a lot of teams throwing big time money around for average players.


                              The former doesn't bother me as much as the latter, to be completely honest. Losing players like linebackers Terrence Melton and Danny Clark and even, and it still hurts, wide receiver Joe Horn to free agency isn't as bad as missing out on several names in free agency that could have really helped us out.
                              I don't think we suffered any big losses so far. The only starters from last season we lost were Joe, and Conwell.. and neither of them played during our stretch run where we got to the NFC Championship. Melton was a good special teamer, but he was only a backup. Clark had potential but if the staff would've saw something in him they would've tried to keep him. I think if those are our only losses so far then we are fortunate, so far pretty much every starter from the NFC Championship is still on the roster. (with the exception of Bellamy)

                              That said, I still believe (or maybe I just hope) that the Saints are not done in free agency. Both defensive tackles Anthony Adams and Ian Scott are still available and there are other players that might be able to help add depth to our team.
                              I agree with you on that point, there's still quite a while before the Draft and there are a few guys we can bring in specifically at DT, and WR.


                              I won't go through every pick at this point (since I'm about to pass out) but needless to say, I wasn't totally big on the Saints' draft last season. There wasn't one pick I was really excited about, but boy, now it looks like the Saints came out better than expected (Marques Colston, anyone?) with not only their picks, but also trading down and picking up two big name free agents, and as it is, a few of their picks still have tremendous upside.

                              Hopefully, the Saints will continue to address some needs in free agency and then come April, be able to really help out our team with some solid selections in the Draft.
                              Yup I remember a lot of people myself included had doubts about the Saints Draft last year. A lot of people complained about reaching for Roman Harper in the 2nd round, it turns out he won the starting job at SS and played well before getting hurt. People scratched their heads in the 4th round when we passed up one of the highest rated Guards Max Jean-Gilles to take the little known Jahri Evans from Bloomsburg, and then again when we took a WR from Hofstra in the 7th round..

                              That is why I trust in the player evaluations, and personnel moves this Staff makes. So far they really seem to know what they're doing. I think Payton is a guy who likes to build from the Draft, like a lot of elite teams do.. (Ravens, Eagles, Chargers.)


                              *whew* I need a break from typing. :D
                              Last edited by Auron; 03-20-2007, 10:58 AM.

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                              • As per NFL.com's Adam Schefter:

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                                Wide receiver Brandon Stokely signed an one-year agreement with...the Denver Broncos.

                                Just another hit and miss, eh Auron?

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