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    just keeping the ball rolling and wanted to see who everyone thinks the Saints will end up drafting.
    my mock

    1) Greg Olsen TE Miami
    2) Fred Bennett CB South Carolina
    3) Kareem Brown DT Miami
    4) a. Desmond Bishop MLB California
    4) b. Antwan Barnes OLB Florida International
    4) c. Yamon Figurs WR (or a speed WR)
    5) Justin Medlock K UCLA
    6) your guess is as good as my guess backup QB/DL/DB
    18
    Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas
    38.89%
    7
    Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh
    22.22%
    4
    Aaron Ross, CB, Texas
    27.78%
    5
    Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn State
    5.56%
    1
    Dwayne Jarrett, WR, Southern Cal
    5.56%
    1
    Trade the selection away
    0.00%
    0
    Choose someone else not listed (explain who and why?)
    0.00%
    0

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  • #2
    Originally posted by BiggerFoot View Post
    just keeping the ball rolling and wanted to see who everyone thinks the Saints will end up drafting.
    my mock

    1) Greg Olsen TE Miami
    2) Fred Bennett CB South Carolina
    3) Kareem Brown DT Miami
    4) a. Desmond Bishop MLB California
    4) b. Antwan Barnes OLB Florida International
    4) c. Yamon Figurs WR (or a speed WR)
    5) Justin Medlock K UCLA
    6) your guess is as good as my guess backup QB/DL/DB
    Personally, and don't take any offense to this, I have some critiques for you.

    First, I hope that we don't go offensive with the first round selection. Even if Olsen is there, which he might not, I think that most people would agree with me and say that we'd rather have a linebacker or cornerback here. Tight end is not a major need, especially with the recent re-signing of Billy Miller.

    The second round should address the position that we didn't address in round one, whether it be cornerback or linebacker. I think you did okay with Fred Bennett.

    Third round, good position of need, but I'm not sold on Kareem Brown.

    Fourth round, a good round altogether; however, I don't know if Antwan Barnes will be available there, after his tremendous showing at the Combine.

    I don't mind us getting Medlock, but I think that it's still too early for a kicker. Just me.

    And in the last two rounds, I think we need offensive line help, particularly at guard and then like you said a backup quarterback like John Beck from BYU would be okay with a seventh round selection.

    We'll have to see once free agency starts to see what our priorities will be heading into April before anyone can make an educated guess. Kudos for being the first to post this though, and it's decent for it being so early in the game.

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    • #3
      thanks for the insight, I am always happy to take constructive criticism, which you gave
      How do you see the Saints draft going and possibly how Free Agency will go?
      Here are some of my opinions for possible first round choices (in no particular order)
      Leon Hall, Darrelle Revis, Chris Houston, Patrick Willis, Lawrence Timmons, Paul Posluszny, Greg Olsen, Ted Ginn.
      Last edited by BiggerFoot; 03-01-2007, 02:43 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BiggerFoot View Post
        just keeping the ball rolling and wanted to see who everyone thinks the Saints will end up drafting.
        my mock

        1) Greg Olsen TE Miami
        2) Fred Bennett CB South Carolina
        3) Kareem Brown DT Miami
        4) a. Desmond Bishop MLB California
        4) b. Antwan Barnes OLB Florida International
        4) c. Yamon Figurs WR (or a speed WR)
        5) Justin Medlock K UCLA
        6) your guess is as good as my guess backup QB/DL/DB
        I dont like Olsen in the first round for us. While I understand his appeal, it was our defense that kept us out of the super bowl. I dont like billy miller, so i would like to see us pick a TE - not in the first round though. we can get one in the later rounds, and give him a little time to mature. here is my mock:

        1 Patrick Willis
        2 Tanard Jackson
        3 Brandon Siler
        4 Antonio Johnson
        4 Steve Smith
        4 Ben Patrick
        5 trade: CB/S Jordan Babineaux
        6 John Talley

        i may have missed this somewhere else, but what do yall think about us going after joey porter. i know he would cost some serious money, but he would give our defense an identity. i think he has the kind of attiude that could really help some of our younger players. i also like nate clements over dre bly . i would love to see us get adalius thomas too.

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        • #5
          part of the appeal of Olsen is the fact that the top talent in the LB class and CB class is likely gone by 27, and both CB and LB are deep in talent. Where as I feel that the TE class is a big drop off after Olsen, so why not get the best talent at a position rather than the 3rd or 4th best, we could use a TE he has great hands was the fastest of all TEs and has good height

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          • #6
            [expletive deleted]!!!

            [expletive deleted]!!!!

            I had typed out a great response to both you BiggerFoot and GeauxSaints and guess what? The stupid forum logged me out for some stupid reason and so I lost my post... [expletive deleted]!



            Well, I'm going to bed 'cause I have to work at 7:30 a.m., but I'll get on the computer and type something this morning at work!

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            • #7
              how do you like mine ?

              1. Aaron Ross , CB Texas
              2. David Harris , LB Michigan
              3. Brendan Mebane , DT California
              4. Rhema McKnight , WR Notre Dame
              4. Mansfield Wrotto , OG Georgia Tech
              4. Marvin White , S TCU
              5. Michael Allan , TE Whitworth
              6. CB/RT Prospect
              7. QB/RTProspect

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              • #8
                Okay, here I go again... this time, I'm typing out my response on WordPad... *sigh*

                Originally posted by BiggerFoot View Post
                thanks for the insight, I am always happy to take constructive criticism, which you gave
                How do you see the Saints draft going and possibly how Free Agency will go?
                Here are some of my opinions for possible first round choices (in no particular order)
                Leon Hall, Darrelle Revis, Chris Houston, Patrick Willis, Lawrence Timmons, Paul Posluszny, Greg Olsen, Ted Ginn.
                BiggerFoot, first and foremost, welcome to the forum. It's great to have another Saints fan here on the forum! :)

                Now like I said before, kudos on being the first to take a stab at the Draft, and thanks for being able to take constructive criticism. Not everyone takes it well, and I think it speaks volumes about your character.

                As most people on this forum agree, I doubt that the Saints will be able to make any big splashes in free agency. They already have re-signed DT Hollis Thomas, TE Billy Miller and like it or not, franchised DE Darren... heh, oops, Charles Grant and re-signed him for at least one year. Judging by all the recent monumental signings, I really don't see the Saints getting someone like Adalius Thomas or an expensive player like that. As stated in this forum, the Saints are hosting LB Brian Simmons and CB/S Ken Hamlin today. While I'm not totally sold on Simmons, since he is 32 and already been in the league 10 years, and his productivity has decreased over the last three seasons, I'd be really excited to get Hamlin. Hamlin is a hard-hitter and would be an obvious upgrade for our secondary. The only hang-up on Hamlin is that he had a severe head injury in 2005 and that might be a bit of a concern.

                Now, as for the Draft, the only unfortunate thing with having a great season this past year, is now we're drafting at the bottom of the first round. At twenty-seven, some of the bigger names might not be available, including several of the names on your list. Honestly, I would assume (and I hope I'm wrong) but players like linebacker Patrick Willis, cornerbacks Leon Hall, Chris Houston, and Darelle Revis as well as wide receiver Ted Ginn, Jr. would probably be gone by the time we're on the clock. Lastly, as good as tight end Greg Olsen is, the fact remains that defense is a bigger need for the Saints, especially in the first round.

                That being said, I really like Penn State linebacker Paul Posluszny. According to what I've heard, Posluszny can play in the middle or on the outside, and I think someone like him would be a huge upgrade for our linebacking corps. He's instinctive, has "premier" intangibles (according to Scott) and is smart and a team leader. Especially after missing on a linebacker a least the last two years, I'd be estatic to get Posluszny.

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                • #9
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                  • #10
                    On to the second half...

                    Originally posted by GeauxSaints View Post
                    I dont like Olsen in the first round for us. While I understand his appeal, it was our defense that kept us out of the super bowl. I dont like billy miller, so i would like to see us pick a TE - not in the first round though. we can get one in the later rounds, and give him a little time to mature. here is my mock:

                    1 Patrick Willis
                    2 Tanard Jackson
                    3 Brandon Siler
                    4 Antonio Johnson
                    4 Steve Smith
                    4 Ben Patrick
                    5 trade: CB/S Jordan Babineaux
                    6 John Talley

                    i may have missed this somewhere else, but what do yall think about us going after joey porter. i know he would cost some serious money, but he would give our defense an identity. i think he has the kind of attiude that could really help some of our younger players. i also like nate clements over dre bly . i would love to see us get adalius thomas too.
                    Well, first as you probably already know, Denver traded for Dre Bly, the 49ers made Nate Clements the first ever ten million dollar-a-year defensive player, and Adalius Thomas will probably will end up signing with New England some time in the next few hours.

                    As for Joey Porter, I don't know about him. Honestly, he's a solid player but I'm not big on his attitude. He's got quite a mouth on him, and I'm not sure if he's worth the money he'd probably want.

                    Now, with your Draft, I'm going to do the same thing that I did for BiggerFoot and go pick by pick.

                    As much as I'd love to have Patrick Willis, I doubt that he'd be around when we pick at twenty-seven. I really think that he's gone sometime in early in the first round. I mean, it would be excellent if he's there, and if he is, we thank God and run our pick to the podium.

                    In the second round, I don't know enough about Tarnard Jackson, but he seems like he's solid, but not spectacular. If someone like cornerback Aaron Ross from Texas is available, I'd prefer him to Jackson, but we'll see who's still there at the end of the second round.

                    Not sold on Brandon Siler. He should have gone back to Florida for his senior season. Just wanted to take advantage on Florida's national championship. But, that's just my opinion.

                    That being said, I love the fourth round... minus Antonio Johnson. I don't feel like he's worth a fourth round selection. However, both Steve Smith and Ben Patrick would be great steals late in the fourth round. I'd be happy if we could get one of these two in April, but you have us getting both, which would be excellent.

                    If we end up signing cornerback/safety Ken Hamlin in free agency, I don't think that there's a reason to trade for Jordan Babineaux. If we don't, then I don't know. I know that some people on this forum *coughdiabsoulecough* are big on him, but I'm not completely sold on him.

                    Lastly, I don't know anything about John Talley, but he would fill a need.

                    Overall, I would absolutely if we would get Willis in the first and even just one of the two fourth rounders you had us getting. A couple of the picks aren't the best, either because they're too early or I'm not fond of the particular player. But, again, this is just my opinion, and compliments for posting your mock draft so early in the off-season.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Saints Dome Patrol View Post
                      On to the second half...



                      Well, first as you probably already know, Denver traded for Dre Bly, the 49ers made Nate Clements the first ever ten million dollar-a-year defensive player, and Adalius Thomas will probably will end up signing with New England some time in the next few hours.

                      As for Joey Porter, I don't know about him. Honestly, he's a solid player but I'm not big on his attitude. He's got quite a mouth on him, and I'm not sure if he's worth the money he'd probably want.

                      Now, with your Draft, I'm going to do the same thing that I did for BiggerFoot and go pick by pick.

                      As much as I'd love to have Patrick Willis, I doubt that he'd be around when we pick at twenty-seven. I really think that he's gone sometime in early in the first round. I mean, it would be excellent if he's there, and if he is, we thank God and run our pick to the podium.

                      In the second round, I don't know enough about Tarnard Jackson, but he seems like he's solid, but not spectacular. If someone like cornerback Aaron Ross from Texas is available, I'd prefer him to Jackson, but we'll see who's still there at the end of the second round.

                      Not sold on Brandon Siler. He should have gone back to Florida for his senior season. Just wanted to take advantage on Florida's national championship. But, that's just my opinion.
                      Yep Bly, Clements, and Thomas all moved after that last post. I had no idea of the money Clements was asking for, to hell with him.

                      I agree that Willis will probably not be there, but I was being optimistic.

                      I would list Jackson as my #1 in the second round and Ross as #1a. I think they are similar in skill level, and obviously either of them would be a dramatic improvement.

                      I disagree with you on Siler. I have had the opportunity to watch this guy in person, and he would be an absolute steal in the third. If he had gone back for his senior year, he would have been very similar to D. Ryans and would have been drafted in the late first early second of the 2008 draft. As it stands now, we could get a tremendous talent and let him develop for a year. By drafting either Willis or Posluszny we would already be adding depth, so Siler would not have to be an every down player (even though I think he would be) and we could still rely on our serviceable, yet aging current LB corps.

                      Obviously that fourth round would be amazing, but I doubt they will all be there.

                      Talley is a CB from Duke that will be little more than a nickel or dime back. He will give us some much needed depth, and he is someone who could get overlooked because of where he played.

                      Biggerfoot the problem I have with Olsen in the first has nothing to do with his talent. I am sure everyone agrees he is one of the top TE’s in this years class, but I don’t think it is our biggest need. You say that LB and CB are very deep this year, well that is great because we need at least 2 CB’s and 1 LB to step in and be starters next year. This is something that the coaching staff realizes and they are going to address the biggest area of weakness as early and as often in the draft as they can. Welcome to the board.

                      I would put our needs in this order:
                      CB**
                      LB
                      DT
                      WR
                      OL

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                      • #12
                        well some more info on Greg Olsen, his pro-day was yesterday at Miami, never the less he impressed yet agian. In his workout he ran a 4.41 short shuttle (faster than Merriweather) a TE faster than a top prospect safety. He also out jumped Merriweather in the long jump with a 9 foot 11 inch jump. He is shaping up to be a lock for a 1st round pick and could be a steal at our pick, I am hoping for Olsen to fall to the Saints

                        As for Kareem he has really disappointed with his sub-par workouts not excelling in anything speed or strength. But a counterpart of his Baraka Atkins can play both the DE and DT so his versatility would be very nice. He has good size and speed and has played both DT and DE in college. But most importantly he is good against the run.
                        and so I am tweaking my mock a little
                        Olsen
                        Bennett
                        Atkins/Barnes (whomever we feel might not make it to the 4th)
                        Barnes/Atkins
                        Bishop
                        A.J. Davis
                        Medlock
                        Legedu Naanee WR (project)
                        Last edited by BiggerFoot; 03-04-2007, 02:13 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GermanSaint View Post
                          how do you like mine ?

                          1. Aaron Ross , CB Texas
                          2. David Harris , LB Michigan
                          3. Brendan Mebane , DT California
                          4. Rhema McKnight , WR Notre Dame
                          4. Mansfield Wrotto , OG Georgia Tech
                          4. Marvin White , S TCU
                          5. Michael Allan , TE Whitworth
                          6. CB/RT Prospect
                          7. QB/RTProspect
                          Well, it happened again. I was in the middle of writing a great response to your mock draft and this time, Windows decided to be stupid and crash. So, I'm going to try this one more time.

                          As I've been telling everybody, I'm just giving my opinion, round by round. Again, this is just my opinion, and I appreciate that everyone has accepted the constructive criticism in stride.

                          I absolutely love the first round pick. Especially since, to this point, we have not signed a free agent cornerback in free agency. Aaron Ross would be a great fit and a huge upgrade over Fred Thomas or Jason Craft. I like Ross a lot, not only since he was the Thorpe Award winner but also that he is a Texas guy. Ross looks like he could be our number 2 cornerback this season, but in a few years, who knows? He might replace Mike McKenzie and become our number one cornerback.

                          As for David Harris in round two, I don't know enough about him, but I have heard that he's more of a 3-4 "run thumper" than a true middle linebacker. Personally, I think that someone like Harris could come in and learn from both Mark Simoneau and Brian Simmons and might be a good project player.

                          The third round pick of Brandon Mebane definitely fills a need at defensive tackle. Scott's write-up makes him seem like an adequate back-up and we could certainly use depth behind Hollis Thomas and Brian Young.

                          I also really like your fourth round. All the players you have us getting are positions of need and seem to be solid players.

                          With the fifth rounder, I think you reached on Michael Allan. I don't know enough about him, but it doesn't seem like he's worth a fifth rounder.

                          And with the last two rounds, I agree, another cornerback, a backup quarterback or even a backup linebacker would be solid selections for us. Right tackle, I'm not sure, since we re-signed Jon Stinchcomb and we still have Zach Strief.

                          All and all, I think you did an excellent job and hope that we're lucky if most of what you projected comes true come April! :D

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                          • #14
                            Here's my turn at a quick Saints mock:

                            1. LB Paul Posluszny
                            2. CB Tanard Jackson
                            3. TE Ben Patrick
                            4. LB Anthony Waters
                            4. WR Steve Smith
                            4. DT Jay Alford
                            5. OT/OG Allen Barbre
                            6. CB John Talley
                            7. K Nick Folk

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by diabsoule View Post
                              Here's my turn at a quick Saints mock:

                              1. LB Paul Posluszny
                              2. CB Tanard Jackson
                              3. TE Ben Patrick
                              4. LB Anthony Waters
                              4. WR Steve Smith
                              4. DT Jay Alford
                              5. OT/OG Allen Barbre
                              6. CB John Talley
                              7. K Nick Folk
                              Well now, it's my turn to critique diabsoule's mock draft... *rubs hands with glee*... :D

                              I really like the first round selection, since as you all already know, I'm a big fan of Paul Posluszny, and he's one of the players actually that might be available at twenty-seven. Even after signing Brian Simmons, we could still use another linebacker, especially one who's young and dependable. I think that Posluszny could be a solid playmaker for our defense and be a starter for our team for several years.

                              In the second, you have us getting Tanard Jackson, and he seems to be a solid selection. The only thing that concerns me, is Jackson's character issues. Other than that, he seems like a good pickup and definitely fills another one of our needs.

                              Now, I'm not against us getting Ben Patrick, especially since he (besides Olsen) is one of the most balanced tight ends in the Draft, but I don't know if he's worthy of a third round selection. I do agree that someone of his magnitude would be a solid selection, but I think that we might be reaching if we get Patrick here.

                              In the fourth, I'm excited and confused, all at the same time. I like the acquistion of wide receiver Steve Smith, but I'm not fond of the Anthony Waters pick. I think that we need to stay away from someone with his injury concerns. And in regards to Jay Alford, I don't disagree that it would fill a positional need, but I don't know if we should get someone like him so early.

                              Obviously, I don't know enough about Allen Barbre to say one way or another. I do agree that it adds depth, so I wouldn't be totally against it. I must say; however, that you (diabsoule) are always after offensive lineman that look like child molestors. Are you trying to tell us something? ;)

                              It seems that everyone likes us getting John Talley in the sixth, so I won't repeat myself.

                              Lastly, you have us getting kicker Nick Folk from Arizona. He doesn't seem to have the accuracy that we would need from a kicker. Could be just me, but if it's between picking him and getting a free agent, I'd get the free agent.

                              I do like a large number of your selections, especially Posluszny and Steve Smith, but we'll have to wait and see what happens, especially what the team's needs will be after free agency.

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