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  • #16
    I'm going to begin working on my Saints first round big board, and 7 round mock draft...Hopefully I'll have it up by tomorrow.

    Unfortunately I got caught up in some business today and couldn't finish everything... I will work on it on Saturday though.
    Last edited by Auron; 03-09-2007, 11:52 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Auron View Post
      I'm going to begin working on my Saints first round big board, and 7 round mock draft...Hopefully I'll have it up by tomorrow.
      I look forward to it.

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      • #18
        Okay, since I've critiqued everyone else's mock draft to this point, I figured I should put my money where my mouth is and post my mock draft.

        Now, again, this is before all of free agency is over, but here is my Saints mock draft, round by round.

        Now, in the first round, I think that our need will either be linebacker or cornerback. With the Saints getting LB Brian Simmons in the off-season so far, and re-signing Scott Shanle, but not landing a free agent corner yet, I think that cornerback would be the pick here over linebacker. Again, as I've said earlier, players like Leon Hall and Darrelle Revis would probably be gone, so here's my pick for the Saints at twenty-seven...



        Chris Houston, cornerback, University of Arkansas

        Now, with the Saints picking near the end of the second round as well, I think that a majority of the bigger name players would be gone. Looking to provide some quality depth here, the Saints again look to a defensive player...



        Quinn Pitcock, defensive tackle, Ohio State University

        Okay, now with the Saints getting a legitmate starting cornerback and now a top defensive tackle to learn from Hollis Thomas and Brian Young, the Saints look to add another player to the defense with the next selection, this time in the third round...



        H.B. Blades, inside linebacker, University of Pittsburgh

        Now on to Day Two...

        After getting three straight defensive players in the first three rounds, I think that it might be time for the Saints to get their first offensive player... here's hoping that this guy will still be available in the fourth round...

        Steve Smith, wide receiver, University of Southern California

        Now, with the Saints getting three defensive players, and now a wide receiver, the Saints continue to address depth at key positions. Even after getting Eric Johnson in free agency, I think that the Saints could use a young back-up tight end who could take over if Johnson doesn't pan out or the other two continue to be hampered with injuries.

        Matt Spaeth, tight end, University of Minnesota

        Now, with the second selection of the fourth round, the Saints look to add more quality depth at key positions. Here's another player that I think can add depth to a position of need.

        Andy Alleman, guard, University of Akron

        Now, if even part of the first four rounds go the way I want, that'd be great. Now, on to the fifth round...

        I think with the fifth round here, I'm not certain what I would want the Saints to target... but there's a bevy of cornerbacks that could add depth, so here goes...

        Travarous Bain, cornerback, Hampton University

        So now, the Saints have picked up two cornerbacks, a linebacker, a defensive tackle, a wide receiver, a tight end, and an offensive guard. What's left?

        In my opinion, we need a good quality back-up quarterback to learn from Drew Brees since Jamie Martin is no Spring chicken... here's someone that not many people have mentioned, but I'm high on this guy...

        John Beck, quarterback, Brigham Young University

        And now, lastly, in the seventh round, the Saints could just pick someone that would be a camp body. I'm not sure what the Saints need here, since it is the last round and all. Against my best judgment...here's my last selection for the Saints...

        Andrew Wellock, kicker, Eastern Michigan University

        So, that's my mock draft for the Saints...in review:

        First Round: Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas
        Second Round: Quinn Pitcock, DT, Ohio State
        Third Round: H.B. Blades, ILB, Pitt
        Fourth Round (a): Steve Smith, WR, USC
        Fourth Round (b): Matt Spaeth, TE, Minnesota
        Fourth Round (c): Andy Alleman, OG, Akron
        Fifth Round: Travarous Bain, CB, Hampton
        Sixth Round: John Beck, QB, BYU
        Seventh Round: Andrew Wellock, K, Eastern Michigan


        So what do y'all think? I think that this draft would not only be solid, but spectacular, in my opinion... :D
        Last edited by Saints Dome Patrol; 03-10-2007, 12:13 PM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Saints Dome Patrol View Post
          First Round: Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas
          Second Round: Quinn Pitcock, DT, Ohio State
          Third Round: H.B. Blades, ILB, Pitt
          Fourth Round (a): Steve Smith, WR, USC
          Fourth Round (b): Matt Spaeth, TE, Minnesota
          Fourth Round (c): Andy Alleman, OG, Akron
          Fifth Round: Travarous Bain, CB, Hampton
          Sixth Round: John Beck, QB, BYU
          Seventh Round: Andrew Wellock, K, Eastern Michigan
          I like that mock pretty much addressed all the needs..Hopefully I'll have my own mock up in a few hours, still working on it.

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          • #20
            Here is my analysis of your mock:

            First Round: Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas
            It seems that people have become amazed with Houston due to his showing at the combine. I, however, have still remained skeptical about him. He showed a lot of promise and potential during his tenure at Arkansas and I think he could possibly turn into a shutdown corner at the next level but I think his bust factor his extremely high. If he is the best player available when we pick then I am not against selecting him because he would definitely address a need. I would, however, like to see us rather go with someone like Aaron Ross or Marcus McCauley over Houston.

            Grade: B

            Second Round: Quinn Pitcock, DT, Ohio State
            If the Saints land Pitcock in the second, which seems to be a distinct possiblity because he has seen his stock fall quite a bit, then I believe it would be a major acquisition. Although I don't see Pitcock as ever being a superstar, I think he could be solid. He reminds me of a more athetlic Kyle Williams or a Chris Hovan. I think he'd be a great person to learn under Hollis Thomas.

            Grade: A-

            Third Round: H.B. Blades, ILB, Pitt
            I really like this pick. I'm a big fan of Blades and I think he could be a really nice pick-up for the Saints. I think learning behind Simmons would really help him. The only thing I'm worried about concerning Blades is his sub-par coverage skills. All in all, I really like the pick.

            Grade: A

            Fourth Round (a): Steve Smith, WR, USC
            This is another pick that I really like. Smith reminds me of Joe Horn a good bit in that he is a decent blocker, knows how to get open, is a good route-runner, and is deceptively quick. His 40 time at the combine really helped him out and I think him playing alongside Marques Colston would be a really good duo.

            Grade: A

            Fourth Round (b): Matt Spaeth, TE, Minnesota
            The second day allows you to take a few more risks than you would on the first and this pick definitely fits the risk taking category. Before his injury, Matt Spaeth was probably a Day One selection. Now with his injury he will fall to the second. I'm not quite sure how he'll recover from the injury. If he recovers well, then great. If not, then we're back to the drawing board. While I like Spaeth and it does seem like he will be one of the best TE's left available at this time I am a little uncertain about his recovery. I'm going to grade this pick lower based on the risk factor.

            Grade: B-

            Fourth Round (c): Andy Alleman, OG, Akron
            I like Alleman pick as I'm not completely sold on Jamar Nesbit at LG. The only thing about Alleman is his lack of lower body strength and the level of competition he played against. I think other guys that we could look at with this pick are Allen Barbe and Kyle Young. I am also worried about how Alleman would fit into our blocking scheme.

            Grade: C+

            Fifth Round: Travarous Bain, CB, Hampton
            Throughout recent years there have been a number of smaller school defensive backs come in and make a difference. Bain could possibly be one of the next guys to do it. He needs to add weight, even though he has the speed already. I am also concerned about him moving from the University of Miami down a level in competition by transferring to Hampton. I like the pick as it gives us some depth at a major position of need and I see some potential in Bain.

            Grade: B

            Sixth Round: John Beck, QB, BYU
            Seventh Round: Andrew Wellock, K, Eastern Michigan

            Overall, I really like this mock as it addresses all of our positions of need and gives us depth in positions that lack them now. I think it is fairly realistic and this could well be how our draft pans out. There are a few players I'd like to see be taken, or some that could be considered more over the players you have listed, but it is a very nice draft. Good job!

            Overall grade -- B
            Last edited by diabsoule; 03-12-2007, 02:14 AM.

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            • #21
              FINALLY I got around to finishing my big board, and mock.. I had to re-do my whole mock after I messed up, my new one is a bit optimistic but it's just how it played out.

              Here's my personal 1st round Big Board, basically I would be happy if we landed any of these players somehow in the first round.

              Auron's Big Board

              - I'm actually starting to warm up to the idea of Griffin, at first I was against taking a safety early but with the safety problems if everyone else is gone I think he'd be a fine pick up. I didn't rank any WR's but if Bowe/Meachem/ or Ginn are there I would take a serious look at them as well. I'm not as a high on Tank Tyler as others but he is a possibility, and Weddle has recently been climbing up draft boards and has a good chance at being a late 1st rounder.

              Here's the Mock
              Auron's Saints Draft 1.2

              * Dang it it won't let me post the picture so I have to link it...and I lost my other write up.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Auron View Post
                FINALLY I got around to finishing my big board, and mock.. I had to re-do my whole mock after I messed up, my new one is a bit optimistic but it's just how it played out.

                Here's my personal 1st round Big Board, basically I would be happy if we landed any of these players somehow in the first round.

                Auron's Big Board

                - I'm actually starting to warm up to the idea of Griffin, at first I was against taking a safety early but with the safety problems if everyone else is gone I think he'd be a fine pick up. I didn't rank any WR's but if Bowe/Meachem/ or Ginn are there I would take a serious look at them as well. I'm not as a high on Tank Tyler as others but he is a possibility, and Weddle has recently been climbing up draft boards and has a good chance at being a late 1st rounder.

                Here's the Mock
                Auron's Saints Draft 1.2

                * Dang it it won't let me post the picture so I have to link it...and I lost my other write up.
                I really, really like the mock. I'll give a more detailed explanation later.

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                • #23
                  That is absolutely a terrific mock Auron!
                  The whole world loves neophyte athletic tight end Jimmy Graham from Miami with the 95th pick. "Best pick in the draft,'' one AFC coach told me. "Give him time, and in that offense, he'll be better than [Jeremy] Shockey by the start of next year.''

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                  • #24
                    If Revis falls to the Saints I would be ecstatic. Chris Houston or Aaron Ross seem more likely, and both seem to have almost unlimited potential, so I'd be happy with any of the three.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by TigerBait45 View Post
                      If Revis falls to the Saints I would be ecstatic. Chris Houston or Aaron Ross seem more likely, and both seem to have almost unlimited potential, so I'd be happy with any of the three.
                      I'm thinking Houston is going to go pretty damn early. I think Ross and Revis will be more in our range -- I also expect some draft day trades just like last year as well.
                      The whole world loves neophyte athletic tight end Jimmy Graham from Miami with the 95th pick. "Best pick in the draft,'' one AFC coach told me. "Give him time, and in that offense, he'll be better than [Jeremy] Shockey by the start of next year.''

                      “We know that no matter the adversity, be it the lockout, be it the suspension or be it a hurricane, our men will pull together and defend the honor of this city. We’ve shown we’ve been able to do that.” - Jabari Greer

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by TigerBait45 View Post
                        If Revis falls to the Saints I would be ecstatic. Chris Houston or Aaron Ross seem more likely, and both seem to have almost unlimited potential, so I'd be happy with any of the three.
                        That's why I'm awaiting March 16th, Pittsburgh's Pro day.

                        In the slight possibility Revis runs an average time around 4.4 that might be enough to slide him down a bit, he's aiming for a lower 4.3 which he is capable of running..and if he gets it his value will go back up.

                        I think he'll work out very well because individual pro days can maximize conditions, but we'll see.

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                        • #27
                          1.27 -- CB Darrelle Revis, Pitt
                          This is an excellent value right here as Revis is the second best cornerback prospect in the draft. I think he'd be very good for our cornerback scheme, especially due to his size, long arms, and fluid hips. I also like that he supports the run well and is a solid tackler. The only drawback I see to him is that his aggressive nature sometimes gets the better of him and he's going to have to learn to refine and hone that on the next level. I think it's a great pick and if Revis falls to us then it would be a draft day gift from the football gods.

                          Grade -- A

                          2.58 -- DT Justin Harrell, Tennessee
                          Harrell is a great prospect in his own right, and is right underneath the top DT's in this draft. He showed what kind of dedication and heart he had last year in the game against Florida where he had a very serious injury but still played. He's a big body run-stuffer who would be able to come in and spell Hollis Thomas or Bryan Young in run situations. The only concern, and it is a big enough concern for me that I have to lower the grade on this pick, I have about him is how well he recovers from his injury.

                          Grade -- B+

                          3.89 -- TE Ben Patrick, Delaware
                          After the University of Miami's Greg Olsen, I think the top TE in the draft is small school prospect Ben Patrick. He is equally adept at running routes and using soft hands to catch the ball as he is at staying along the line and adding extra protection in running situations. For me, he is the best all-around TE in this year's draft. My only concern about him is his that when he played at Duke his production wasn't all that great and he didn't start to emerge until he went down a level in competition. Still, a hell of a pick and one of my favorites.

                          Grade -- A+

                          4.119 -- WR Steve Smith, USC
                          This is another pick that I really like. Smith reminds me of Joe Horn a good bit in that he is a decent blocker, knows how to get open, is a good route-runner, and is deceptively quick. His 40 time at the combine really helped him out and I think him playing alongside Marques Colston would be a really good duo.

                          Grade -- A

                          4.121 LB Tim Shaw, Penn State
                          Tim Shaw is a true team player. He showed that by playing numerous positions in his time at Penn State. He has a tremendous worth ethic and motor. He is a true jack-of-all-trades and it is hard to project him to a certain position and scheme. In the Saints 4-3, he can either be used as an undersized pass rusher or as an outside linebacker. I really like this guy, but I do think that he would be better off in a 3-4. His coverage skills leave a lot to be desired, so I don't think he would be an adequate Will backer. Like I said, I do like the pick, I just don't know what the Saints could do with him. He might possibly be projected to a MLB.

                          Grade: C

                          4.122 -- CB Michael Coe, Alabama State
                          Coe is one of my top sleeper prospects. He had a terrific showing at the East-West Shrine Game and did an admirable job at the Senior Bowl. He has the physical tools in order to make it into the NFL and succeed. He also should perform well in the Saints scheme. I have the same trepidation about him that I do about Ben Patrick.

                          Grade: B+

                          5.153 -- DE Jay Moore, Nebraska
                          Another intriguing prospect in the vein of Tim Shaw. He could be productive as a pass rush specialist. He reminds me of last year's draft choice, Rob Ninkovich. The reasoning your provided for the pick is more than adequate and I wouldn't be suprised if we took a chance on him based on his collegiate production. My only concern would be if he has maxed out his potential, but he seems like a player and I like the pick.

                          Grade -- B

                          6.184 -- OT Allen Barbre, Missouri Southern St.
                          7.201 -- K Andrew Wellock, Eastern Michigan
                          I like both of these guys, but due to them being in the sixth and seventh round I will refrain from grading.

                          Overall, this draft might be slightly optimistic but does not dive into the realm of impossiblity. If this draft happened I would be very happy.

                          Overall grade -- B+

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                          • #28
                            NFL | Revis runs impressive 40-yard dash
                            Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:19:40 -0700

                            John Murphy, of Yahoo! Sports, reports Pittsburgh CB Darrelle Revis ran between 4.38 and 4.40 seconds in the 40-yard dash as part of his Pro Day workout Friday, March 16.



                            That's a good time, I think he'll go in the 15-25 range.. all it takes is a little slipping though.

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                            • #29
                              Sveen, I finally got around to reading your four round mock draft, and believe me, there were some "eye-opening" picks in there for the Saints. I'd really like it if you could post all your Saints picks (rounds 1-7) and your explanations. :)

                              Please...? :D

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                              • #30
                                In Scott Wright's latest mock, he now has us getting Texas CB Aaron Ross in the first, LSU WR Craig "Buster" Davis in the second, and Tennessee DT Turk McBride in the third.

                                Personally, I'm not sure about Turk McBride, but that's due to durability concerns and the fact that he's a tad bit undersized.

                                But, what do you guys think?

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