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  • I know George Selvie isn't the best pass rusher in the world, but his stock is skydiving to a point where he's looking like a round 4 guy.

    If he is available at that point, I wouldn't mind picking him up and using him as a situational pass rusher. He sucks now that he's tried to pack on weight, but if we make him get back down to 240 and just rush him on 3rd downs, why not?

    At that point in the draft, its not a bad idea.


    Id love Hardy if anything, but he's a round 2 guy and I don't think we should be investing that early in a pass rusher. If we need a pass rusher that bad we should just convert Sintim to a DE.

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    • Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
      I really really really like Spikes. This is going to be a tough draft to gauge. We can do so many different things.

      I think Spikes is going to be nasty too. And if we ever run Spags scheme again (doubt it), he'd be just as good as McClain in it. He's a great blitzer and downhill run stuffer.

      Spikes would be pretty nasty for us.

      Id be ecstatic with either one.
      I COMPLETELY AGREE! what i see in spikes is a special competitor that may not be more athletic or as fast or quick as Rolando McClain, but he plays like a monster with intimidation and almost reminds me of LT's mentality from the book the blindside "he simply wouldn't allow himself to be viewed in any way except as the best" probably not properly quoted, but i think spikes has that attitude and wont allow another team to beat him.

      Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
      I know George Selvie isn't the best pass rusher in the world, but his stock is skydiving to a point where he's looking like a round 4 guy.

      If he is available at that point, I wouldn't mind picking him up and using him as a situational pass rusher. He sucks now that he's tried to pack on weight, but if we make him get back down to 240 and just rush him on 3rd downs, why not?

      At that point in the draft, its not a bad idea.


      Id love Hardy if anything, but he's a round 2 guy and I don't think we should be investing that early in a pass rusher. If we need a pass rusher that bad we should just convert Sintim to a DE.
      Eh, i really like Selvie, but at 240 he just simply will get pushed around, if he could find a happy medium i would have no problem, in fact id be pretty ecstatic. Hardy im not high on, he doesn't seem to be the player he was hyped to be and his attitude toward football seems piss poor

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      • My sig and BaLLiN's sig sum up my feelings

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        • I'm really hoping we trade out of our pick. If we stay at 15 I think we're looking at Brian Price or Taylor Mays.

          My dream though is a trade back for Dan Williams, so we can grab a guy like Major Wright in round two and with an additional third rounder we can nab Tennant and Vince Oghobaase. That way we've got our OL sorted out for the most part, we've added safety depth and re-loaded our weak DT position.

          I'd love to add McClain or Spikes, but I think Goff is a lot closer to those two than are say Rouse or Bernard to Williams, Oghobaase and Wright.

          Come to think of it I'd adore that draft, although if we can't trade back I'd be happy with Price, Wright and Tennant or Mays, Bailey and Oghobaase. Safety depth and a re-stocking of our DT position are the two biggest offseason needs in my opinion, we have a lot of options this summer to do that so we're just going to have to wait and see, we could still sign guys like Landry at SS, Nick Cole at C, Richard Seymour (who might actually also give us a great dose of leadership and energy) or Ryan Pickett at DT or Karlos Dansby at MLB. Any of those moves could have a massive impact on our draft concerns and are moves I'd be happy with as long as the price tag doesn't get out of hand.
          Last edited by Rosebud; 01-15-2010, 07:28 PM.

          BK

          Originally posted by AcheTen
          JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
          Originally posted by abaddon41_80
          Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
          Originally posted by JBCX
          Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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          • Thoughts on Chad Jones? I don't think he's a good fit for us simply because of how raw he is, but by that same token there's a lot of raw talent there that could be a total steal in rounds 2 or 3.

            BK

            Originally posted by AcheTen
            JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
            Originally posted by abaddon41_80
            Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
            Originally posted by JBCX
            Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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            • Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
              I'm really hoping we trade out of our pick. If we stay at 15 I think we're looking at Brian Price or Taylor Mays.

              My dream though is a trade back for Dan Williams, so we can grab a guy like Major Wright in round two and with an additional third rounder we can nab Tennant and Vince Oghobaase. That way we've got our OL sorted out for the most part, we've added safety depth and re-loaded our weak DT position.

              I'd love to add McClain or Spikes, but I think Goff is a lot closer to those two than are say Rouse or Bernard to Williams, Oghobaase and Wright.

              Come to think of it I'd adore that draft, although if we can't trade back I'd be happy with Price, Wright and Tennant or Mays, Bailey and Oghobaase. Safety depth and a re-stocking of our DT position are the two biggest offseason needs in my opinion, we have a lot of options this summer to do that so we're just going to have to wait and see, we could still sign guys like Landry at SS, Nick Cole at C, Richard Seymour (who might actually also give us a great dose of leadership and energy) or Ryan Pickett at DT or Karlos Dansby at MLB. Any of those moves could have a massive impact on our draft concerns and are moves I'd be happy with as long as the price tag doesn't get out of hand.
              Well that would be nice but I don't want Dan Williams unless we somehow trade back in the mid 20's. Trading back is going to be difficult, and honestly I don't really even consider it an option because it's way too unpredictable to rely on happening. I expect we'll be picking at 15 and the only guy who really interests me is Earl Thomas. Mays I would be alright with but I think Thomas would become a stud under Fuwell.
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              • this sucks. there's nobody of need that I'm in love with, and it's making me sad.
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                • Originally posted by Forenci View Post
                  Well that would be nice but I don't want Dan Williams unless we somehow trade back in the mid 20's. Trading back is going to be difficult, and honestly I don't really even consider it an option because it's way too unpredictable to rely on happening. I expect we'll be picking at 15 and the only guy who really interests me is Earl Thomas. Mays I would be alright with but I think Thomas would become a stud under Fuwell.
                  Agreed, but I'm iffy about Thomas, I think he's a fantastic FS, but I think what we need most is a safety who can help us against the run without being a liability in coverage. I just worry that a Thomas and Phillips or Johnson combo will be lacking against the run. I think Thomas is probably better than Mays, but Mays might be a better fit. If Kenny comes back Mays could paly his favorite deep role letting Kenny roam around more as a play maker while also having the ability to come up against the run. He's certainly not a traditional SS either because he needs to play further from the line, but he can help our run D on the outside from that spot while giving us a wonderful safety line at the back of our secondary.

                  I'm starting to sell myself on Brian Price, he's scary fast off the snap and has the strength to stuff the run while wreaking havoc. I've liked him since I got to watch him in early November, but I've worried he might be a reach that high. I still think he might be a slight reach, but with a strong offseason that might not be the case. If we can nab him in the first, a SS in round two or three and a bigger DT like Oghobaase or Odrick our D could be much further on its way to becoming force.

                  BK

                  Originally posted by AcheTen
                  JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
                  Originally posted by abaddon41_80
                  Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
                  Originally posted by JBCX
                  Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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                  • Originally posted by scottyboy View Post
                    this sucks. there's nobody of need that I'm in love with, and it's making me sad.
                    I'm with you on this one. There's just nobody I really want at 15 right now. It's a weird spot. I better start to watch more video and read up on some of the guys.
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                    • I was thinking that a was a funny position until recently

                      now there is a clear player I want and he should be there:

                      FS Earl Thomas

                      Thomas is a similar style of player to Eric Berry and is already #11 on kiper's big board. It means we will be able to shift Phillips to SS.

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                      • I fully believe if we trade back to pick 20-25 Earl thomas will be there, his size will hurt him, couple that with the possibility of Taylor Mays running well at the combine, he's the #2 safety and Thomas likely will be in competition with Chad Jones for the #3 Safety spot and win.

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                        • Originally posted by BaLLiN72 View Post
                          Antoine Bethea and Dawan Landry are the only safeties i like in FA for us, and i agree Earl Thomas is small, but he has a great deal of potential and great instincts.

                          I might take Spikes over McClain just off of how we could possibly get him in the second, and McClain would cost as more money and value.
                          What is wrong with OJ Atogwei? I actually prefer him to both Bethea and Landry, but Bethea is pretty damn good though.

                          If we go with one of these guys, we can then focus on a DT or a Mike backer. I would prefer a Mike, but we need a DT help stop the run, and I don't think there will be a good DT around in the second round.

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                          • Originally posted by BaLLiN72 View Post
                            I fully believe if we trade back to pick 20-25 Earl thomas will be there, his size will hurt him, couple that with the possibility of Taylor Mays running well at the combine, he's the #2 safety and Thomas likely will be in competition with Chad Jones for the #3 Safety spot and win.
                            I don't. Not even in the slightest. Trading back is usually pretty difficult, and in addition to that I think Earl Thomas will be gone if we don't take him at 15.
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                            • Earl Thomas
                              5'10''
                              197 lbs
                              4.5ish 40

                              2008
                              52 Solo tackles
                              19 Assisted tackles
                              4 forced fumbles
                              2 interceptions

                              2009
                              39 Solo tackles
                              18 Assisted tackles
                              1 forced fumble
                              8 interceptions
                              149 int. return yards
                              18.6 return avg.
                              92 long
                              2 TDs


                              Ed Reed
                              5'11''
                              205 lbs
                              4.57 40


                              2001
                              35 Solo, 9 Assited, 44 total tackles, 1-2 TFL-Yards, 0 FF, 2-1 FR-YDS, 9 int-206 yards, 18 PDs

                              2000

                              59 Solo, 21 Assited, 80 total tackles, 0-0 TFL-Yards, 0 FF, 0-0 FR-YDS, 8 int-92 yards, 23 PDs

                              1999
                              48 Solo, 26 Assited, 74 total tackles, 4-30 TFL-Yards, 0 FF, 1-0 FR-YDS, 2 int-38 yards, 4 PDs

                              1998
                              61 Solo, 29 Assited, 90 total tackles, 2-15 TFL-Yards, 4 FF, 1-0 FR-YDS, 2 int-53 yards, 7 PDs

                              Total
                              203 Solo, 85 Assited, 288 total tackles, 7-47 TFL-Yards, 4 FF, 4-1 FR-YDS, 21 int-389 yards, 52 PDs

                              Drafted: 24th to the Baltimore Ravens in 2002
                              Last edited by BaLLiN; 01-17-2010, 09:51 AM.

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                              • I feel that by staying at 15 we either make a steal in McClain or a reach in Thomas and I can't see Reese trading out of the spot for McClain so unless he falls to us we are gonna trade back a few slots to make the Thomas picck seem like it wasn't a reach. I mean there is always a chance of staying at 15 and taking someone, but Reese loves to get extra picks to nab late round guys who end up being studs in our system.

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