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  • #61
    If we were going DT, I would love me some Jeff Owens. Probably could pick him up in the second and could prove to be one of the best DTs in this class. This DT class is just so insane, I want in on one of them.


    Originally posted by Halsey
    I don't have to watch it to know it was not interesting.

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    • #62
      My favorite late first and on DT is Duke's Vince Oghobaase. He's a good kid and at 6'5" 310 he has great strength, length and explosiveness to be a powerful penetrator on the inside.

      BK

      Originally posted by AcheTen
      JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
      Originally posted by abaddon41_80
      Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
      Originally posted by JBCX
      Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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      • #63
        Gresham is out for the year. If he enters the draft, I can see him as a 2nd round prospect or even later.

        Id love to take a gamble on him. The guy is a beast. And we could upgrade the TE position, and wouldn't even have to spend a 1st on it. Im speculating that he won't be a 1st rounder, but Id be surprised if he does rise up back to round 1 status.

        3 guys I was targeting with our 1st were Spikes, Bailey, and Gresham. Now Gresham may become a round 2 possibility, maybe even later. Should be interesting to see.

        Sucks for him though. The guy was easily the best TE prospect of the past 2 years.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
          Gresham is out for the year. If he enters the draft, I can see him as a 2nd round prospect or even later.

          Id love to take a gamble on him. The guy is a beast. And we could upgrade the TE position, and wouldn't even have to spend a 1st on it. Im speculating that he won't be a 1st rounder, but Id be surprised if he does rise up back to round 1 status.

          3 guys I was targeting with our 1st were Spikes, Bailey, and Gresham. Now Gresham may become a round 2 possibility, maybe even later. Should be interesting to see.

          Sucks for him though. The guy was easily the best TE prospect of the past 2 years.
          I still think he goes late first and be ecstatic to get him there. He would add another dimension to our offense. Although I love Boss, he is slow and doesn't offer much as blocker. Whereas, Gresham is a decent blocker but is an all out amazing receiver. I'd easily take Gresham with our first round pick especially if he runs well at he combine.

          Bone Krusher, the best

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          • #65
            I think Boss is a good blocker. I was impressed with how well he blocked last year.

            But yeah, Gresham is just a flat out better player. I just don't see him staying in the 1st round. He's gotta be a 2nd to 3rd round guy now. I guess it depends on his recovery, but Im not expecting 1st round.

            Im starting to think we have no chance of landing my boy Allen Bailey this year, unless we draft early. And let's hope that doesn't happen...

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            • #66
              Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
              I think Boss is a good blocker. I was impressed with how well he blocked last year.

              But yeah, Gresham is just a flat out better player. I just don't see him staying in the 1st round. He's gotta be a 2nd to 3rd round guy now. I guess it depends on his recovery, but Im not expecting 1st round.

              Im starting to think we have no chance of landing my boy Allen Bailey this year, unless we draft early. And let's hope that doesn't happen...
              I honestly don't think Bailey will come out, I honestly have no reason to believe this other than just a hunch that he will stay but whatever. When Bailey does come out I think he will be a top 15 pick, and I highly doubt we get him, he is a freak of nature with that size and speed.

              Another person I could see us drafting is Reshad Jones out of Georgia especially if Michael Johnson has a down year. I believe MJ is good, but just like Boss he has his deficiencies and we can do better. Jones is pretty similar to KP IMO, as they can both play FS or SS. I really like him, if we can have him and KP at safety I will be a very happy man. It is a very strong safety class with the likes of Taylor Mays, Eric Berry, Jones, and Major Wright all possibly coming out, I think its a good chance Jones is there when we are picking.

              Bone Krusher, the best

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              • #67
                Thats a good call. Im also not the biggest Michael Johnson fan, particularly bc of his run defense. I think he's very solid in pass D, but he's just awful in run D.

                If we can compliment Kenny with a Chris Horton like SS, I think that would be best for our defense. And you're right, with Mays and Berry coming out, a very solid safety will fall in this draft in round 2.

                We don't need another Kenny Phillips, but an upgrade at safety wouldn't be a bad idea. Theres a guy from Texas that I have my eye on, I'm forgetting his name though.

                This has nothing to do with us since we probably won't draft a DE, but #91 on Georgia Tech caught my eye. I like his motor, strength, and versatility. Reminds me of a poor man's Tuck.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                  Thats a good call. Im also not the biggest Michael Johnson fan, particularly bc of his run defense. I think he's very solid in pass D, but he's just awful in run D.

                  If we can compliment Kenny with a Chris Horton like SS, I think that would be best for our defense. And you're right, with Mays and Berry coming out, a very solid safety will fall in this draft in round 2.

                  We don't need another Kenny Phillips, but an upgrade at safety wouldn't be a bad idea. Theres a guy from Texas that I have my eye on, I'm forgetting his name though.

                  This has nothing to do with us since we probably won't draft a DE, but #91 on Georgia Tech caught my eye. I like his motor, strength, and versatility. Reminds me of a poor man's Tuck.

                  Haha it's funny you mentioned him bbd, I was already thinking about him after reading the top part of your post and was going to throw his name out there anyway. Earl Bennett #12, he's been a mid-late 1st rounders in some mocks but I honestly think if he comes out he'll be in that late 1st, early 2nd, draft range.


                  You'll have to look out for him when Texas is on TV, he'll remind you alot of Michael Griffin, he covers alot of ground very quickly, has a good awareness of the field, makes plays vs the run and pass. He's not an exceptional athlete like those at the top of the class, but I think he has a chance to be the 3rd best safety in the class slightly above Reshad Jones from Georgia.


                  Some of those guys may not even declare, but it's possible that 5 Safeties have a first round grade next year if Major Wright declares also.





                  Originally posted by Scott Wright
                  I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by LonghornsLegend View Post
                    Haha it's funny you mentioned him bbd, I was already thinking about him after reading the top part of your post and was going to throw his name out there anyway. Earl Bennett #12, he's been a mid-late 1st rounders in some mocks but I honestly think if he comes out he'll be in that late 1st, early 2nd, draft range.


                    You'll have to look out for him when Texas is on TV, he'll remind you alot of Michael Griffin, he covers alot of ground very quickly, has a good awareness of the field, makes plays vs the run and pass. He's not an exceptional athlete like those at the top of the class, but I think he has a chance to be the 3rd best safety in the class slightly above Reshad Jones from Georgia.


                    Some of those guys may not even declare, but it's possible that 5 Safeties have a first round grade next year if Major Wright declares also.
                    Yeah, thats him. He's looked pretty damn good to me the few times Ive seen Texas. What's his # again? I want to scout the guy.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                      Thats a good call. Im also not the biggest Michael Johnson fan, particularly bc of his run defense. I think he's very solid in pass D, but he's just awful in run D.

                      If we can compliment Kenny with a Chris Horton like SS, I think that would be best for our defense. And you're right, with Mays and Berry coming out, a very solid safety will fall in this draft in round 2.

                      We don't need another Kenny Phillips, but an upgrade at safety wouldn't be a bad idea. Theres a guy from Texas that I have my eye on, I'm forgetting his name though.

                      This has nothing to do with us since we probably won't draft a DE, but #91 on Georgia Tech caught my eye. I like his motor, strength, and versatility. Reminds me of a poor man's Tuck.
                      The DE from GT is Derrick Morgan 6'4 278 pounds, I can honestly say I like him better than Everson Griffon both are juniors, if both come out this year or the next I'd take Morgan over Griffon. One thing about Morgan is he is a complete non-stop motor he gives it his all on every play, he is an excellent all around DE, and I against Clemson I saw him draw double and even some triple teams all game long. Whoever picks up this kid is getting a 12+ sack guy whose great against the run.

                      I also have a guy who not many people know about. It's Murray State's DE Austen Lane he is right now a late rounder, but he is 6'7 265 pounds and runs a 4.6, he led Murray State with 12 sacks an 22 TFLs last year, I think he is a great sleeper pick, I believe he even had an INT or two last year as well. If he has another great season I can see him being as high as a 2nd round pick.


                      Bone Krusher, the best

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Malaka View Post
                        The DE from GT is Derrick Morgan 6'4 278 pounds, I can honestly say I like him better than Everson Griffon both are juniors, if both come out this year or the next I'd take Morgan over Griffon. One thing about Morgan is he is a complete non-stop motor he gives it his all on every play, he is an excellent all around DE, and I against Clemson I saw him draw double and even some triple teams all game long. Whoever picks up this kid is getting a 12+ sack guy whose great against the run.

                        I also have a guy who not many people know about. It's Murray State's DE Austen Lane he is right now a late rounder, but he is 6'7 265 pounds and runs a 4.6, he led Murray State with 12 sacks an 22 TFLs last year, I think he is a great sleeper pick, I believe he even had an INT or two last year as well. If he has another great season I can see him being as high as a 2nd round pick.

                        Before the season started, Greg Hardy was my #1 DE, but after watching week 1, I wasn't all that impressed with him. He has motor issues, and overshoots his lane too much.

                        I need to see more from Hardy. A guy who might interest us from Ole Miss is a DT on their team. I don't know his name or #, but he's a big guy, more of a 2 gap run thumper. Kind of reminds me of Ron Brace.

                        Even last year when I was scouting Peria Jerry, this guy stuck out to me more than Jerry did. I just don't remember who he was.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                          Before the season started, Greg Hardy was my #1 DE, but after watching week 1, I wasn't all that impressed with him. He has motor issues, and overshoots his lane too much.

                          I need to see more from Hardy. A guy who might interest us from Ole Miss is a DT on their team. I don't know his name or #, but he's a big guy, more of a 2 gap run thumper. Kind of reminds me of Ron Brace.

                          Even last year when I was scouting Peria Jerry, this guy stuck out to me more than Jerry did. I just don't remember who he was.
                          I like Hardy a lot but I didn't see much of the Ole Miss game the parts I did happen to see, I didn't see Hardy on the field at all. There are three pretty good runs topping DTs at Ole Miss and I think you are talking about #57 Jerrell Powell he's 6'1 330 pounds. I honestly like #96 Scott Lawon better, he's a similar player Jeria Perry last year.

                          Bone Krusher, the best

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                          • #73
                            A guy I know the Giants have/will have interest in:

                            -LB Rolando McClain - Alabama (Junior)

                            Freakishly long arms, which Reese and Ross love in prospects. Maintains separation from blockers and is able to engage and shed while getting his numbers in front of the ball carrier. Physical player that can really send a jolt to the ball carrier's helmet. Has the lateral range to shut down tackle to tackle running game. Has the long strides to cover a lot of ground in coverage, also uses his length to get up and tip passes. Balanced in the box, rarely fooled by counters.
                            Originally posted by Paul
                            Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
                            Originally posted by Vikes99ej
                            These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
                            MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Number 10 View Post
                              A guy I know the Giants have/will have interest in:

                              -LB Rolando McClain - Alabama (Junior)

                              Freakishly long arms, which Reese and Ross love in prospects. Maintains separation from blockers and is able to engage and shed while getting his numbers in front of the ball carrier. Physical player that can really send a jolt to the ball carrier's helmet. Has the lateral range to shut down tackle to tackle running game. Has the long strides to cover a lot of ground in coverage, also uses his length to get up and tip passes. Balanced in the box, rarely fooled by counters.
                              McCain's a really good MLB who might even push Spikes for the top MLB spot, but he's a first rounder and I think we're going to be looking for a SS or DL in the first. I'm hoping Reshad Jones is available, because he would be a great compliment to Kenny P as he's also a versatile safety who can cover while also coming up and being a force in the box.

                              BK

                              Originally posted by AcheTen
                              JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
                              Originally posted by abaddon41_80
                              Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
                              Originally posted by JBCX
                              Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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                              • #75
                                My pick for the Giants next year is DT Arthur Jones from Syracuse

                                He is very strong and very disruptive and is under the radar on an ordinary team.

                                He would be the ideal kind of guy to develop for the future at DT.

                                Once the juniors start declaring I expect him to slip.

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