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  • Originally posted by Giantsfan1080 View Post
    What's the difference in money than Melo can receive from the extension or signing with a new team in FA?
    We don't know bc the CBA situation in the NBA is actually much more messed up than the NFL, but it could potentially be as low as half the money. So from 65 million to perhaps 30 million.

    Thats what i heard analysts speculate at least.

    That's why I think we should trade for him. It's hard to pass up on 30 million just to play for a team you like. He'll change his mind and choose the money if we can't work out a trade.

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    • Well if that's the case and it really is $30 million then yeah they better make sure they trade for him. Nobody is giving up that much money to play for a certain team.
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      • Originally posted by Giantsfan1080 View Post
        Well if that's the case and it really is $30 million then yeah they better make sure they trade for him. Nobody is giving up that much money to play for a certain team.
        Especially when the Nets already have an offer on the table that is 10X better than any offer the Knicks can put out, that would allow Melo to sign the extension and get traded and wind up playing in NY anyway once they move to Brooklyn.

        I don't think the Knicks have as much leverage as people think. They have leverage sure, but it's not like Melo can't change his mind any time in the future.

        That's why I say we should just get him now while we can, and worry about overspending later. Overspending on Melo is better than not getting him at all.

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        • Well if Melo is that worried about money we can just do a sign and trade with the Nuggets in the off-season and give up a first round pick or two so he can get his max contract,

          Also, for as good as Melo is, he isn't on the superstar level of guys like LeBron/Wade/Paul/etc. He's damn close, but ultimately there are a lot of people who feel he isn't quite at their level because he's a very one dimensional superstar. He's a superb scorer, okay rebounder, not a good passer, and his defense isn't that great. Granted he might be the most talented scorer in the league because he can post up, hit 3's, hit mid-range jumpers, and get to the rim and hit FT's, but he does lack in some areas.

          I think he fits perfectly for the Knicks because we need that from him, and it would mesh better than Miami's "big 3" because they all have roles and can play off the ball.

          BBD, I think you're crazy if the Nuggets will just accept Gallo + a 1st. They would rather let him hit FA (like a lot of teams did this year) before giving up on the season and trading him away for just Gallo.

          Right now I would just hold off on doing anything. It's too early in the season. I'd still take Chris Paul over Melo any day of the week. For as good as Felton has been, CP3 is a still a million times better than him.
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          • Originally posted by Forenci View Post
            BBD, I think you're crazy if the Nuggets will just accept Gallo + a 1st. They would rather let him hit FA (like a lot of teams did this year) before giving up on the season and trading him away for just Gallo.
            I'm guessing Curry's expiring contract would be appealing to Denver. I still don't know if that would be enough though.

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            • I'd hope we could talk them into talking AR, Chandler and a 1st. AR is just useless, I didn't like him coming out because he's mentally weak, but I gave him a break. He could still develop into a player, but if Denver's intrigued by his potential I'd much rather get rid of him than Fields, Gallo, Chandler or Mozzie. Hell I even value Dougie more, although there AR's potential starts to balance Dougie's lack of PG instincts. That trade probably isn't enough, although I'd hope with Chandler's increased productivity this year they might figure that securing his services plus AR and a first that that may prove to be enough for Melo around Mid season.

              As for the CBA I've been hearing Melo would be looking at something like 15 a year over 3 which is 20 mil, but when you subtract the mil his wife would be bringing in that she isn't right now and the increase he'd get from having his face plastered across NYC.
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              Originally posted by AcheTen
              JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
              Originally posted by abaddon41_80
              Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
              Originally posted by JBCX
              Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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              • There is no way a deal gets done without Gallo. You guys are proposing Pau Gasol like trades.

                It probably going to take Gallo, Fields, Curry's expiring and a 1st. Even then the Nuggets get ripped.
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                • Originally posted by Rob S View Post
                  There is no way a deal gets done without Gallo. You guys are proposing Pau Gasol like trades.

                  It probably going to take Gallo, Fields, Curry's expiring and a 1st. Even then the Nuggets get ripped.
                  *shrug* They're going to get ripped in any of the proposals I've heard from any other team that would realistically go after him, especially if the CBA moves in a direction that would have a grandfather provision by the deadline, making it much safer for him to wait for a S&T over the summer. Plus Melo's an unstoppable scorer, a modern day Bernard King, for Denver to trade him and not get ripped would mean we'd have to trade Amare for him.

                  I don't think Gallo, Fields, Curry and a 1st is much less than the Chandler, AR, Curry and 1st that I proposed. Chandler's off contract but he's producing more and is a more athletic while Gallo's only got one more year on his contract. AR and Fields comes down to potential v polish, I think with Denver looking poised for a rebuild it's not that crazy to think they might opt for AR's potential.

                  BK

                  Originally posted by AcheTen
                  JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
                  Originally posted by abaddon41_80
                  Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
                  Originally posted by JBCX
                  Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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                  • It will take Gallo, Curry's contract, a 1st, and possibly Fields at the very least.

                    I'm ok with moving Fields bc we'll just move Chandler to SG.

                    Our bench will go to the shitter this year, but we'll have enough money that we can retool that bench in the offseason. I'm not concerned about that.

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                    • Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                      It will take Gallo, Curry's contract, a 1st, and possibly Fields at the very least.

                      I'm ok with moving Fields bc we'll just move Chandler to SG.

                      Our bench will go to the shitter this year, but we'll have enough money that we can retool that bench in the offseason. I'm not concerned about that.
                      I'm not so sure about that, with Melo and Amare that's 45 mil, plus Felton's 7.5 takes us to 52.5 mil, add turiaf and we're right around the cap already with just 4 players, that's without re-signing Chandler which would leave us with the MLE if it isn't eliminated from the new CBA.

                      BK

                      Originally posted by AcheTen
                      JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
                      Originally posted by abaddon41_80
                      Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
                      Originally posted by JBCX
                      Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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                      • I am worried about it. Look at the Heat. If they didn't get Mike Miller their bench would be complete trash (it is right now without him). I think if we keep our bench as is, in addition to signing one or two more solid bench players with Melo, we could have one of the deepest benches in the NBA.

                        The quality of your bench is one of the most important aspects to thriving in both the regular and postseason.
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                        • Originally posted by Forenci View Post
                          I am worried about it. Look at the Heat. If they didn't get Mike Miller their bench would be complete trash (it is right now without him). I think if we keep our bench as is, in addition to signing one or two more solid bench players with Melo, we could have one of the deepest benches in the NBA.

                          The quality of your bench is one of the most important aspects to thriving in both the regular and postseason.
                          Yep, the bench needs to bee deep and versatile, you can't just put together which ever vets are available and hope they can work well together. That's why I'm so loathe to give up Gallo and Fields, the two of them are so good at filling in around other players and stepping up when they have to that they're ideal guys to put around elite scorers like Amare and Melo.

                          BTW Rumors of Dougie, Walker + 2nd round pick for Mayo. I'd like it although it would really suck to have to give up dougie's ferocious D.

                          BK

                          Originally posted by AcheTen
                          JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
                          Originally posted by abaddon41_80
                          Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
                          Originally posted by JBCX
                          Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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                          • Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
                            Yep, the bench needs to bee deep and versatile, you can't just put together which ever vets are available and hope they can work well together. That's why I'm so loathe to give up Gallo and Fields, the two of them are so good at filling in around other players and stepping up when they have to that they're ideal guys to put around elite scorers like Amare and Melo.

                            BTW Rumors of Dougie, Walker + 2nd round pick for Mayo. I'd like it although it would really suck to have to give up dougie's ferocious D.
                            The Grizzlies would be so dumb to take that but I would love them for eternity. Solves our two guard problem. As much as I love Chandler, I think he's a little big to be a 2.
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                            • Originally posted by Forenci View Post
                              The Grizzlies would be so dumb to take that but I would love them for eternity. Solves our two guard problem. As much as I love Chandler, I think he's a little big to be a 2.
                              Yeah, I can't believe they've soured on him enough to consider this, but Dougie can play some insanely good D and shoot...

                              BK

                              Originally posted by AcheTen
                              JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
                              Originally posted by abaddon41_80
                              Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
                              Originally posted by JBCX
                              Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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                              • Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
                                Yeah, I can't believe they've soured on him enough to consider this, but Dougie can play some insanely good D and shoot...
                                I think Mayo could do that too. The difference is I think Mayo is bigger and better in a lot of other areas also.
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