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  • #16
    Originally posted by Giantsfan1080 View Post
    Of course I'm going to give him a chance but on first glance I don't like it. Isn't he a booth guy also which as we know our players have a problem with?
    Like I said I'm not a huge fan and think their were a couple better choices out there that fit our style of defense, but I don't think it's the worst signing we could have made.

    I know a lot of Giants fans were thinking pie in the sky with Fox but that was never happening and I don't really see that many options for us at DC. Especially if we exclude guys who have no experience at DC.

    I just want to hear his philosophy and what he intends to do with our defense before I start freaking out about it. He might have some interesting new twists with our personnel or something.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Giantsfan1080 View Post
      How could you possibly know this? We have to look at the track record of Fewell and he runs the system that Lovie Smith ran. There will be some man obviously but the majority will be that zone. If he changes great but I just don't see it.
      I've watched the Bills plenty over the past two years and I assure you, they are not your typical Cover 2 defense. He switches it up as much as Spags did. A lot of it depends on personnel, and the Bills have tweaked their defensive personnel over the past couple of years and it was evident that Fewell played to the players strengths. I've seen them plenty of schemes and thats why I feel this is a good hire. The Giants defensive personnel is diverse and it gives a lot of options. 2 things that are for certain with Fewell is that he won't be predictable and he won't be simple.
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      • #18
        What about his crappy run defenses? All personnel or more scheme #10?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Number 10 View Post
          I've watched the Bills plenty over the past two years and I assure you, they are not your typical Cover 2 defense. He switches it up as much as Spags did. A lot of it depends on personnel, and the Bills have tweaked their defensive personnel over the past couple of years and it was evident that Fewell played to the players strengths. I've seen them plenty of schemes and thats why I feel this is a good hire. The Giants defensive personnel is diverse and it gives a lot of options. 2 things that are for certain with Fewell is that he won't be predictable and he won't be simple.
          I hope this is the case, believe me I really do.

          I just don't trust it right now.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Forenci View Post
            Like I said I'm not a huge fan and think their were a couple better choices out there that fit our style of defense, but I don't think it's the worst signing we could have made.

            I know a lot of Giants fans were thinking pie in the sky with Fox but that was never happening and I don't really see that many options for us at DC. Especially if we exclude guys who have no experience at DC.

            I just want to hear his philosophy and what he intends to do with our defense before I start freaking out about it. He might have some interesting new twists with our personnel or something.
            Admittedley I had no idea who we should have hired for DC but Fewell would have been on the lower end of that list. I'll be very interested to hear what he has to say. We'll also get a clue of the direction he might want to go in when the draft rolls around.
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            • #21
              this article makes me feel a lot better about the hire, but i'm still a little unsure about it

              http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,6949436.story

              If what that article says is true, then this is a great hire. But if its just fluff to hype up a guy, then its not.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Giantsfan1080 View Post
                What about his crappy run defenses? All personnel or more scheme #10?
                There is no way someone on a message board can give a valid answer for that without being in the film rooms and meetings. But from what I saw, the Bills were probably the worst tackling team in football other than Detroit and St. Louis. I thought the Giants were a bad tackling defense...but the Bills were scary bad.

                Run defense is analyzed to a point where it makes me sick sometimes. It is one of the more simple elements to the game. It centers around gap control and ability to tackle on initial contact. So with that said, I am under the impression that their run defense issues falls on the players more than the scheme. Am I 100% right? No way to answer that. But tackling is such an overlooked element to the game in the fans eyes and it is sickening. Watch the Vikings and Jets this weekend and you will see what I mean.
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                • #23
                  Honestly...forget the articles. Forget the interview with the media that is coming up. Forget the mini-camp and training camp reports.

                  You will not be able to evaluate the scheme until next fall. End of discussion.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Giantsfan1080 View Post
                    Admittedley I had no idea who we should have hired for DC but Fewell would have been on the lower end of that list. I'll be very interested to hear what he has to say. We'll also get a clue of the direction he might want to go in when the draft rolls around.
                    Honestly, my top guy would have probably been Will Muschamp. I think he'd be terrific but I don't think he'd have ever left the chance to coach Texas for the sake of being a defensive coordinator.

                    I mean the Bills were terrific against the pass, plus they create a ton of turnovers and give up very few big plays. All good things in my book, just based off looking over the team defense statistics and having seen the Bills play about 3 games this year. Not enough to get a feel but I felt like they were always swarming around the ball.

                    Our biggest problem is we need to plug in some good DT's or it won't matter who we get as DC, we'll still be ran over all game.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                      this article makes me feel a lot better about the hire, but i'm still a little unsure about it

                      http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,6949436.story

                      If what that article says is true, then this is a great hire. But if its just fluff to hype up a guy, then its not.
                      Even if it is a fluff piece, it still has some interesting tidbits in it. Like for example the use of a "Bonzai' blitz. Something like that would probably work brilliantly for us.

                      Also it mentioned he isn't a calm/passive person which is a great thing as well. Plus just based off those quotes, the players all seemed to love him and he really has done some nice things with some of the safeties he's worked with. Hopefully he could do that with Kenny Phillips and maybe another safety we bring in.
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                      • #26
                        Oh yea, this isn't done deal yet. Still weighing both offers.

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                        • #27
                          This may not happen untill the weekend now. Fewell is still talking to Chicago and the Bills for the head coaching spot.
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                          • #28
                            This is the only reason why I would feel ok about this signing.
                            the 2008 Bills defense ranked 2nd in the AFC in negative yardage plays, recorded 7 games of holding opposing offenses to less than 100 yards rushing, finished 4th in the NFL in Red-Zone defense (41.8%), and allowed just 14 passing TDs all year.
                            If he changes from cover 2 to something else, this might not be the worst signing. I would still rather have John Fox

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                            • #29
                              Sounds like he's just sparking a bidding war for his services between NY and Chicago.

                              Chicago is notoriously cheap, and while NY isn't exactly Dallas or Washington, we do a decent job with pay.

                              So chances are he chooses NY. He also has more to work with technically in NY, and more freedom to do what he wants in NY instead of having to work under Lovie.

                              So NY makes much more sense for him.

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                              • #30
                                I just hope that who ever we sign, can light a fire under these guys asses and get them ready for next year.

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