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  • Originally posted by Boss+Manning=Banning View Post
    So if we do that then we basically kick David D inside, and go from there with Beatty as the backup. I hope we still address center at some point..

    1. O'hara
    2. Rich S
    3. Koets
    4. Boothe


    That's not really what I want.. 2 older hurt guys, and 2 inexperienced guys..
    We can still draft a Center. I don't believe there is any surefire 1st round Centers available, but there will be 2 or maybe 3 guys we can target in the 2nd.

    So you can go OT in round 1, Center in round 2. Let's say we get Camiri like I say, and O'Dowd in round 2. Let's also assume the Giants are willing to give Beatty another crack at LT. That results in

    LT: Beatty
    LG: Diehl
    C: O'Dowd
    RG: Snee
    RT: Camiri

    In that oline, quite honestly the only position that wouldn't have a very good player would be LT bc the book is still out on Beatty. I think Camiri is at the very worst, a stud RT. O'Dowd can be a stud if he stays healthy, which I think he will. Snee is a PBer. Diehl is a PB caliber player at LG. That's one sexy oline.


    Fwiw, according to Ralph Vacchiano, Coughlin loves Mich Petrus. So perhaps Petrus finds a role somewhere along this line as well. I too am a big Petrus fan. He reminds me of a young Diehl, I think he's going to be a stud LG with some time.

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    • Weren't you guys talking about making Shawn Andrews the LT of the future at some point this season? What happened to that?

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      • I still believe we made a mistake not teaching Petrus how to play Center this season. I know Richy has been practicing snaps for years, but still, if he can do it, Petrus can do it. And if we were able to somehow convert Petrus to a Center, I think he'd be a very good one, and that would solve a huge hole for us.

        Realistically, he's our future LG. But it wouldve been nice to move him to Center.

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        • Originally posted by Morton View Post
          Weren't you guys talking about making Shawn Andrews the LT of the future at some point this season? What happened to that?
          Yup. His back happened.

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          • Back issues..

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            • Anyone seen Mason Foster?

              He's catching buzz around the forums. I don't have any recorded games of Washington and when I watched them play, I'd always just focus on Locker so I never cared much to watch their defense play.

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              • Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                Welcome to the board. Don't be a stranger, this was a good post.
                Thanks, appreciate the positive feedback especially from a veteran poster. Always been into the draft process but never knew such a draftnik community existed online like this. I'll try to post more especially after senior bowl. But I'm always seem to be busy.lol

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                • Originally posted by DOMINATEtheline View Post
                  Thanks, appreciate the positive feedback especially from a veteran poster. Always been into the draft process but never knew such a draftnik community existed online like this. I'll try to post more especially after senior bowl. But I'm always seem to be busy.lol
                  I hear ya. I generally post during work haha :)

                  Anyone catch the game last night? Nevis didn't wow me. I liked #5 from Texas A&M, whatshisname, Judie? I put the eyeball on him all game and I liked his game. He's a junior though so I'm not sure if he's coming out.

                  Patrick Peterson is a monster but there's less than a 1% chance we get him.

                  But Nevis didn't wow me. I expected more penetration. To be fair, I only saw the first half before I went to bed.

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                  • Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                    I hear ya. I generally post during work haha :)

                    Anyone catch the game last night? Nevis didn't wow me. I liked #5 from Texas A&M, whatshisname, Judie? I put the eyeball on him all game and I liked his game. He's a junior though so I'm not sure if he's coming out.

                    Patrick Peterson is a monster but there's less than a 1% chance we get him.

                    But Nevis didn't wow me. I expected more penetration. To be fair, I only saw the first half before I went to bed.
                    You should try and check out some of his earlier games, if possible. There were several games where he just took over and dominated the line of scrimmage by himself.
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                    • Originally posted by Forenci View Post
                      You should try and check out some of his earlier games, if possible. There were several games where he just took over and dominated the line of scrimmage by himself.
                      Perhaps I'm wrong in doing this, but bc I barely watch college football, I weigh the Bowl games much heavier than other games. Bc it's the big stage, plus it's fairly equal competition.

                      And he was pretty invisible out there in that situation. Makes me nervous. I'll go back and watch more games, but he certainly didn't wow me with his first impression.

                      If I ever had the patience to really sit down and watch college football I think id be a much better evaluator of talent. I just don't get a chance to really sit down and scout these guys.

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                      • wow, theyre are a heck of a lot of good runningbacks (no great prospects), i don't want to go Ingram early, but in the 2nd or 3rd there are definitely alot of RB's that are worth it. We need to go BPA in the first again, not DE or WR though.

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                        • What's everyones thoughts on Herzlich? Honestly, he's really the only LB ive seen on tape that I like so far. But he has serious health concerns.

                          With our glaring needs along the oline, do we go oline in round 1 and 2, and chance it with Herz in round 3?

                          ???

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                          • Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                            What's everyones thoughts on Herzlich? Honestly, he's really the only LB ive seen on tape that I like so far. But he has serious health concerns.

                            With our glaring needs along the oline, do we go oline in round 1 and 2, and chance it with Herz in round 3?

                            ???
                            We need his teammate next year. Luke Keuchly.
                            #Chop


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                            • I'm just not feeling these linebackers right now. None of them are wowing me enough to warrant a 1st round pick.

                              I actually like the oline talent available at 19 more than the linebacker talent at 19 right now. I'm still looking at games though, so my opinion could change.

                              Right now, a quick 3 round mock by me:

                              1. Gabe Carimi (OT)
                              2. Kristopher O'Dowd (C)
                              3. Mark Herzlich (OLB/ILB)

                              Here's my thinking. I really like Gabe, I think he's going to be a stud OT, whether its RT or LT. Id like to give him a shot at LT. He is a punishing run blocker and adequate pass protector and I think he would add a lot of juice to our run game, and solve one of our OT positions long term. And at 19, it's a safe pick, bc at the very worst this guy is going to be a stud RT.

                              Since the C class has no true 1st round talent, I like O'Dowd in the 2nd. He's the most prototypical of the group, and he's only falling here bc of health concerns. Now we solve our oline problems. We move Diehl to LG, and we'd have a beastly oline.

                              In round 3, I guess we chance it with Mark. The thing is, I'm iffy on drafting a linebacker at all past rounds 1, and 2 bc we've been down this road before. We constantly try to look for bargain LBs later in the draft and it hasn't worked for us.

                              But at the same time, I'm just not digging any LBs right now early. Herzlich has potential to be a stud, he's a great inspiration and I have a strong feeling he'd fill a leadership void in the lockerroom, and when i watch him on tape I see Urlacher.

                              If he can just stay healthy, it's a steal. But obviously it's a huge gamble. If we decide against LB in the 3rd, I would be open to a number of running backs.

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                              • Originally posted by Giantsfan1080 View Post
                                We need his teammate next year. Luke Keuchly.
                                Then we wait another year for a LB and we face the same issues on defense.

                                I take it you're not a Herz fan?

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