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  • #16
    I want a stud OL in this draft and another guy at DT, if a sweet LB is there as well that'll be awesome, but I want an OL number one and then LB or DT would be my second position of preference.

    BK

    Originally posted by AcheTen
    JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
    Originally posted by abaddon41_80
    Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
    Originally posted by JBCX
    Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
      I want a stud OL in this draft and another guy at DT, if a sweet LB is there as well that'll be awesome, but I want an OL number one and then LB or DT would be my second position of preference.
      i agree, i wanted Anthony Davis like tiger wanted to get laid. A runningback would be nice though, unless the stable shows something special. DT is not an early round need right now.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BaLLiN View Post
        i agree, i wanted Anthony Davis like tiger wanted to get laid. A runningback would be nice though, unless the stable shows something special. DT is not an early round need right now.
        I like JPP a lot more than I did Davis, both have monster upside but with JPP I know he's going to bust his ass to make good on his potential even though he's rawer while with Davis he will be a better a rookie but there are some more troubling concerns.

        I'd argue DT is still a high need, until Alford comes back 100% and breaks out our rotation can still be upgraded. I like the Joseph/Canty combo, but a quick UT who won't get washed out in the running game would be a really nice tough, I really wish we had pulled off the rumored Osi for 33 trade and grabbed Brian Price and then trade Cofield for a third to nab Bruce Campbell.

        1. JPP
        2a. Price
        2b. Joseph
        3a. Chad Jones
        3b. Bruce Campbell
        4. Dillard
        5. Petrus
        6. Tracy
        7. Dodge

        Would've left me ecstatic. Role with Kiwi and Tuck this year slipping JPP and Sintim as rotational edge guys. Fix our DT rotation and leave it loaded for the future. Then take the insurance policy for Kenny in Jones and add the massive potential Ash brings to the table at OT to eventually pair with Beatty. Day 3 could still go just like it did and we'd be loaded with C and CB as the only major needs/future needs.

        BK

        Originally posted by AcheTen
        JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
        Originally posted by abaddon41_80
        Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
        Originally posted by JBCX
        Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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        • #19
          Here is my early 2011 mock draft (29/04/2010) based on what I generally think the Giants will be looking for and my very early projections of where players will go

          1. RB Mark Ingram, Alabama (5-10, 215, 4.48)

          2. MLB Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina (6-2, 232, 4.56)

          3. C Stefen Wisniewski, Penn State (6-3, 298, 5.16)

          4. CB Charles Brown, North Carolina (5-10, 190, 4.48)

          5. FB D.J. Williams, Arkansas (6-2, 250, 4.68)

          6. T Rob McGill, Louisiana Tech (6-6, 310, 5.04)

          7. TE Mike Ragone, Notre Dame (6-5, 252, 4.73

          *************************************************

          I think the Giants have considered the ILB draft class which has good talent and depth. These are the some of the better prospects next year:

          Greg Jones ILB Michigan State (6-1, 224, 4.59)
          Quan Sturdivant ILB North Carolina (6-2, 232, 4.56)
          Kelvin Sheppard ILB LSU (6-3, 239, 4.64)
          Mike Mohamed ILB California (6-3, 237, 4.75)

          Don'ta Hightower ILB Alabama (6-4, 250, 4.74)*
          Chris Galippo ILB Southern California (6-2, 250, 4.74)*
          Korey Williams ILB Southern Mississippi (6-2, 234, 4.65)*

          plus OLBs who could possibly move to middle

          Mark Herzlich OLB Boston College (6-4, 238, 4.68)
          Travis Lewis OLB Oklahoma (6-2, 232, 4.53)*
          Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA (6-4, 252, 4.68)*

          *denotes underclassmen


          All of these guys fit the mold of the kind of ILB we want for Fewell's system. Whilst I am not certain we will go with a MLB in the first round, I do believe there is a good chance we get a MLB in the first couple of rounds next year.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by OSUGiants17 View Post
            Greg Jones =/= NFL ILB, me and Sniper where talking, and he is right. Jones is too small to be a pro ilb, he will be a college ilb and pro will
            I disagree

            He is very much a similar size to guys like Jon Vilma, Jon Beason and DeMeco Ryans at similar stages of their college careers.

            With the NFL strength and conditioning preparations, I wouldn't be surprised if Greg Jones got up to around 235lbs which is where Vilma, Beason and Ryans are playing.

            He certainly wouldn't be a fit for all schemes, but he could play MLB in a system like Fewell seems to prefer. The key will be having the big anchor upfront to keep blockers off the MLB

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Big_Pete View Post
              I disagree

              He is very much a similar size to guys like Jon Vilma, Jon Beason and DeMeco Ryans at similar stages of their college careers.

              With the NFL strength and conditioning preparations, I wouldn't be surprised if Greg Jones got up to around 235lbs which is where Vilma, Beason and Ryans are playing.

              He certainly wouldn't be a fit for all schemes, but he could play MLB in a system like Fewell seems to prefer. The key will be having the big anchor upfront to keep blockers off the MLB
              He's about 10/15 pounds from consideration. It all depends on how he handles blockers for me, if he shows well then good ILB is an option, if not he's an OLB.

              Anyone thoughts on getting Graig Cooper in mid/later rounds, i would get a massive boner.

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              • #22
                I'd love to see Wisniewski, O'Dowd or which ever OT falls become giants next april. We need a project at CB we can take our time with while web and Ross fade away and that means we don't have to spend a first on the position letting us continue to re-stock our one remaining important weakness, the OL outside of Diehl, Snee and Beatty.

                BK

                Originally posted by AcheTen
                JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
                Originally posted by abaddon41_80
                Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
                Originally posted by JBCX
                Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Giantsfan1080 View Post
                  Plus he's already 28 or 29. One of the main problems I had with that pick was the age factor.
                  me too, i loved him before i found out he was 24

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                  • #24
                    Hey guys, A lot of mocks have us going for Ryan Williams or Mark Ingram. What do you guys think? Do we need a RB with our first?


                    Thanks to Bonekrusher for the sweet sig.

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                    • #25
                      I think we probably should go offensive line. Center in particular.

                      We could probably use a linebacker too, and a TE.

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                      • #26
                        Id much rather go with a LB or center like others have said, but i feel like our OL has gotten good depth so the only need is center and possibly RT. How has whimper looked to you guys?

                        I dont know what you guys are thinking but i feel like Shaun Andrews should be moved out to RT so we could get him to start (part of me believes he isn't a great pulling guard), move Beatty to LT and have:

                        Beatty-Diehl-O'hara-Snee-Andrews

                        I want Noel Devine, him and Bradshaw are very similar backs and having two low to the ground, quick, short, and elusive but still packing a punch backs are awesome for a quick line that we used to employ.

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                        • #27
                          Right now I wouldn't make any assumptions about Beatty starting for us. From what he's shown us, he's not capable of being a starter right now, and until he makes some drastic changes, might never be one.

                          I like Andrews at either LG or RT. Personally, I think we move Diehl to RT, keep Andrews at LG, and either Beatty becomes our LT or we draft a LT.

                          Petrus is the wildcard here. I think he can be a starter at LG as early as next year, but if they move him to Center, then I don't know what to make of him.

                          I'm hoping we move him to center as a G/C dual lineman, that way we'd only have 1 hole along the oline at either LT or RT depending on how we want to move forward.

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                          • #28
                            I love Kevin Boss but I want Kyle Rudolph on this team.
                            #Chop


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                            • #29
                              we need to draft Joe Lefeged in the 3rd-4th round. end of thread.
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                              BTW, if it's 3rd and 97... I'm throwing a screen pass to Brian Leonard and he will convert.

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                              • #30
                                You really think he'll go that high Scotty? I was thinking 6th or 7th at this point but his stock can go up with a big year.
                                #Chop


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