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  • #16
    Development of these young guys will be interesting too. Simply put, none of us have any idea how Beatty, Sintim, Barden and Beckum will progress moving forward.

    If those 4 take a huge step this year, that's a major major boost to this team. It's year 3 for all of them, and year 3 is usually a make or break year. If you see no progress in year 3, then you pretty much know you have a JAG.

    I'm not saying you have to be a world beater in year 3, but you have to show progress.

    But yeah, long story short, getting something out of those 4 guys would be huge for this team moving forward. We need more out of those guys and the only people who really know what they can give us moving forward are the guys who are in that building. Bc they see them every day at practice, they see them study film, they see their development.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
      Development of these young guys will be interesting too. Simply put, none of us have any idea how Beatty, Sintim, Barden and Beckum will progress moving forward.

      If those 4 take a huge step this year, that's a major major boost to this team. It's year 3 for all of them, and year 3 is usually a make or break year. If you see no progress in year 3, then you pretty much know you have a JAG.

      I'm not saying you have to be a world beater in year 3, but you have to show progress.

      But yeah, long story short, getting something out of those 4 guys would be huge for this team moving forward. We need more out of those guys.
      This probably cause I'm draftnik but I've got a really good feeling about Barden and Beatty this year. Barden looked good right before he got hurt, I think that this year he really steps up as our red zone killer and gives us the WR depth to handle an injury to Smith, Nicks or Mario without skipping a beat. I also think Beatty will finally have the strength to hold onto a starting spot, and if he's got the strength I think we'll see him growing steadily as the year advances.

      Sintim I have no ******* clue about anymore, I still like him as a SAM but he needs to get beastly against the run again and Beckum I'm cautiously optimistic with, he was blocking better this year and was doing things pretty well, just not sure if we'll utilize...lol utilize...him properly.

      BK

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      Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.

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      • #18
        To me the only must-keep player is Steve Smith. He's too valuable to this team and if we aren't going to stop running this insanely complex offense we need a guy who we know will be on the same page as Eli. After that I'd like to keep Cofield and Boss, but I wouldn't lost sleep if either left. Bradshaw I like but as BBD, he's a fumbler and it's not like he's a game breaker or anything. Kiwi I'd like to retain too if we can get him on a one year deal like Reese said.
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        • #19
          Wasn't this thread more pages?

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          • #20
            well there was a rumor bradshaw was playing later in the year with a broken wrist. i read that somewhere, he had surgery too, right?
            Smith is a MUST keep and Cofield REALLY played well last year. Boss is a guy I feel we can keep for cheap and I really like Beckum and feel he can be a valuable weapon. Sintim and Beatty? I have no freaking clue what to think of them, and they're such big keys dammit.
            Bradshaw...i'd love to keep. love everything about him minus the fumbling and injuries haha. He runs hard, great attitude, great talent and just fits us so well.
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            • #21
              Beatty has done a good job. He is still developing.

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              • #22
                he has improved, but where do we see him? Do we trust him being a full time LT? are we more comfortable grooming him at RT behind K-Mac? Beatty really is a key piece for us going forward, and really plays a big part in this draft and the next.
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                • #23
                  Ahmad Bradshaw unsure if team can keep him, Brandon Jacobs

                  New York Giants impending free-agent RB Ahmad Bradshaw said he is not sure if the team can afford keeping him and RB Brandon Jacobs moving forward because of how much their combined salaries could be, reports Ralph Vacchiano, of the New York Daily News. "I don't think they'll be able to finance both of us financially," Bradshaw said. "But you just never know. It may be possible. There's even talk they might keep both of us. You just never know."
                  Bradshaw (wrist, ankle) played the final six games of the season with a broken left wrist, reports Ralph Vacchiano, of the New York Daily News. He is scheduled to have surgery next week to clean debris in his left ankle, according to Vinny DiTrani, of The Bergen Record. Bradshaw said he will not need surgery on the broken wrist he suffered late in the season.

                  SPLOOSH

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                  • #24
                    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...es_making.html
                    Chad Jones has yet to play a down with the Giants. Heck, he's barely even practiced with them since the team selected him in the third round of last year's NFL Draft. But I get roughly as many questions about Jones as any of the team's active players, so I've tried to provide as many updates as I can.

                    Recently, I e-mailed his physical therapist, John Moran of Southern Orthopaedic Specialists in Jones' native New Orleans, to ask how Jones' rehab from leg injuries suffered in a serious car accident was coming along. It had been four months since we spent a day with him in New Orleans in early October. That was the first day Jones ran in the pool and he struggled to make it through a few laps. Earlier that day, he grimaced as he battled to walk on the treadmill at 0.9 mph.

                    Over the past few months, Jones has made impressive progress. In videos shot by Moran on his iPhone -- videos that have been sent to the Giants to keep them abreast of Jones' progress -- one can see the former two-sport star at LSU is now jogging on the treadmill, pushing off on his injured left leg while throwing a weighted ball, high-stepping with a football and shuffling though agility drills:



                    It might not look like much, and Jones absolutely has a long way to go before he can set foot on an NFL field, but consider the progress he's made in only four months. Below is the video from our October trip to New Orleans. At the 1:34 mark, you can see what was then his max speed on the treadmill and realize how his jogging in the recent clips is a sign of remarkable progress.



                    Jones was to move his rehab up here so he could work with the Giants' trainers and equipment. I'm unsure at this point if he's done so yet, though the impending lockout would be a problem. If the owners lock out the players, the Giants' facility would be unavailable to Jones and the rest of the team.
                    video in link


                    Glad to see he is making a recovery and if he can ever come back and play for us it will be one of the biggest comeback stories ever

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                    • #25
                      If Jones comes back, I'd imagine it would be in 2013. I don't see him playing this year. Let's all hope that he makes a healthy recovery though. I'm definitely rooting for him.

                      Im in the minority that wants to keep Jacobs. I honestly rather have Jacobs than Bradshaw.

                      Sucks that we didn't go after Blount. The guy is like a younger Jacobs, but better.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                        If Jones comes back, I'd imagine it would be in 2013. I don't see him playing this year. Let's all hope that he makes a healthy recovery though. I'm definitely rooting for him.

                        Im in the minority that wants to keep Jacobs. I honestly rather have Jacobs than Bradshaw.

                        Sucks that we didn't go after Blount. The guy is like a younger Jacobs, but better.
                        From what I heard Jones is at least 3 years from playing in a game, maybe even 4.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                          If Jones comes back, I'd imagine it would be in 2013. I don't see him playing this year. Let's all hope that he makes a healthy recovery though. I'm definitely rooting for him.

                          Im in the minority that wants to keep Jacobs. I honestly rather have Jacobs than Bradshaw.

                          Sucks that we didn't go after Blount. The guy is like a younger Jacobs, but better.
                          Eh, I'd rather have Bradshaw to be honest. I think he still has a lot left in the tank where as Jacobs I'm not so sure about. Regardless of who we keep or let go, I think it's obvious they need a guy to split carries with. Jacobs gets too banged up and worn out if he doesn't have a guy to share significant carries with and Bradshaw also gets nicked up and may have fumbling issues.
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                          • #28
                            I like Jacobs but I'd much rather have Bradshaw over him.
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                            • #29
                              Im in the minority that wants to keep Jacobs. I honestly rather have Jacobs than Bradshaw.
                              Booooooo BBD! Boooooooooooooooo I say!

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                              • #30
                                Haha, what can I say? I'm just a big Jacobs fan. I love how he softens up the defense, brings a physical mentality to our offense, and how he's almost like an extra linemen on passing plays.

                                I feel like Bradshaw is more replacable than Jacobs. Jacobs isn't washed up either, he had a great year. He looked fast and physical too.

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