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    This extremely raw DT version of Antonio Cromartie is really getting a ton of hype heading into the draft.

    And Im eating it up. If he can shed 20 lbs, which should be easy at that big frame of 370, could you imagine how potentially dominant he can be?

    He has potential to collapse the entire interior line all by himself. He's fast, huge, and has long arms.

    I wouldn't mind gambling on this kid at all. In day 2, I would definately gamble on what could be a huge huge steal.

    The question is, what round will he fall to?

    Think about what our dline coach can do with him. He's turned water to wine so many times, give him a Walter Thomas, and forget about it. If we draft the kid, and he can even reach 60% of his potential in his rookie year, we could have a dline thats impossible to block.

  • #2
    After doing some google research on the guy, it seems like a late 4th is needed for him.

    That makes me think. Is he worth it at that point in the draft. If he pans out, the answer is a resounding hell yes, but if not, you pass up on some good day 2 talent. Especially in this draft, where most of the talent won't last beyond round 4.

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    • #3
      370? Wow. He's like two DT's wrapped into one at that size. The thing that scares me is, how much does he love the game? Does he love it enough to really reach some of his potential? If he does then I'd be willing to draft him in the fourth. If we pick up another fourth rounder somewhere along the lines I'd be happy. If not, I'd rather chance it in the 5th. Maybe try and trade up to get him if he lasts to the fifth.
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      • #4
        We already have 5 DTs....unless you plan on cutting someone, I don't see us drafting any DTs earlier than the 6th because he will likely spend a year on the PS, leavinh him prone to pickups by other teams.
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        • #5
          late 2nd day pick, wouldnt mind it, especiallly with our DT coach.

          he seems like a lazy, fat, dumb kid who played against terrible competition though.... Not really my kind of guy. He has the measurables though.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Number 10 View Post
            We already have 5 DTs....unless you plan on cutting someone, I don't see us drafting any DTs earlier than the 6th because he will likely spend a year on the PS, leavinh him prone to pickups by other teams.
            Cutting someone is definately not out of the question. We have 5 DTs, but none of them are great. We can make room for potential.

            Who are our DTs? Seawright, Joseph, Robbins, Coffield, and ?

            Have an open competition between him and Seawright. Swap one project for another.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GiantRutgersFan View Post
              late 2nd day pick, wouldnt mind it, especiallly with our DT coach.

              he seems like a lazy, fat, dumb kid who played against terrible competition though.... Not really my kind of guy. He has the measurables though.
              Yeah, thats why he's a project. He's no guarantee, or he'd be a top 20 pick.

              He is dumb and lazy, but even out of shape his measureables are insane. Plus, you don't have to be a genius to play NT. They say he was soaking up coaching like a sponge during his limited time on the field, maybe he's just dumb off the field, who knows.

              As long as he can occupy 2 guys and collapse the inside of the pocket, I could care less about the rest.

              Jamal Williams is around 355 lbs. Asking this guy to shed 15 pounds isn't that extreme. If he can get to that weight, and learn how to play the position, you have a diamond in the rough.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                Cutting someone is definately not out of the question. We have 5 DTs, but none of them are great. We can make room for potential.

                Who are our DTs? Seawright, Joseph, Robbins, Coffield, and ?

                Have an open competition between him and Seawright. Swap one project for another.
                You forgot about Marcus Bell, we just signed him. Will likely be in the rotation, mainly at NT to five Cofield a blow.
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                Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
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                These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Number 10 View Post
                  You forgot about Marcus Bell, we just signed him. Will likely be in the rotation, mainly at NT to five Cofield a blow.
                  Oh yeah, that guy.

                  Well, I can definately see us cutting Seawright to make room for this guy. This guy is a Seawright duplicate with more potential. Seawright is just a fat lard, this guy actually has the speed/strength to do something.

                  Seawright while big, is too slow. At the very worst, this guy can be another Seawright.

                  I was actually surprised to see Seawright get playing time in our goalline defense. He saw the field a little last year.

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                  • #10
                    I think we should take either Laron Harris or Walter Thomas is round 4. If you look at Thomas, he carries that 370 pounds extremely well. A lot of it seems to be on his shoulders, rather than his gut, which is the case with many large lineman. I would love either one of those guys.

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                    • #11
                      I say no to both, some of you guys fall in love with measurables way too easily.
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                      Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
                      Originally posted by Vikes99ej
                      These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
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                      • #12
                        How do you justify Ginn in the 1st then, hes just measurables?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Damix View Post
                          How do you justify Ginn in the 1st then, hes just measurables?
                          What?!!?

                          Are you telling me he hasn't been productive on the D-I level?
                          Originally posted by Paul
                          Eli's opportunity to become a legend.
                          Originally posted by Vikes99ej
                          These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
                          MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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                          • #14
                            yea dude Ginn was very productive, plus he has great measurables (and i dont even want to draft him)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Number 10 View Post
                              What?!!?

                              Are you telling me he hasn't been productive on the D-I level?
                              But he doesn't run good routes, doesn't display good form. All he is doing is getting by on his measurables, hes a project just like Thomas or Harris, he has the potential to be much better then either and its not even close, but hes raw.

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