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  • Kiwanuka moved to OLB

    It's official, Kiwanuka is our starting SAM. Could be a great move, could be an awful move. I think Spags will go nuts with him....I think it will work out, he showed me he has the skillset to be an NFL SAM last year, just needs to get a little stronger.
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    so i assume gerris starts at WILL? i had a feeling this was coming. not bad here, because if it doesnt pay off we have DeOssie, Chase and Kawika
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    • #3
      Originally posted by scottyboy View Post
      so i assume gerris starts at WILL? i had a feeling this was coming. not bad here, because if it doesnt pay off we have DeOssie, Chase and Kawika
      Kawika and Gerris will compete for the job at WILL

      Blackburn back up at MLB

      DeOssie and Torbor backup at SAM
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      • #4
        Really? I'm not questioning your credibility at all, but do you have the source by any chance? I just want to see if it comes with any juicy details about the change.

        I think he could be a really good SAM if he does line up there. I mean he was intercepting the ball, albeit he was dropping the football a bit, he can learn those things if he's a fulltime SAM. They guy is an athletic freak and would be a heck of a blitzer coming off the edge.

        So will Tuck be occasionally subbing Strahan, and whenever Stray retires, he'll take over?

        It'd suck to take another DE next year in the first, hah.
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        • #5
          In the press conference it said he would be moved there, but I don't remember hearing he will start right away.

          Anyway, I'd like to give him downs at both OLB and DE. Thing is, when Strahan retires and Kiwi is a great fit at SLB, our teams greatest strength this year just went to a position of pretty good need considering Tuck has not proved he can stay healthy

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          • #6
            Awesome. The second day picks were very good and Kiwanuka to OLB just makes my day.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Damix View Post
              In the press conference it said he would be moved there, but I don't remember hearing he will start right away.

              Anyway, I'd like to give him downs at both OLB and DE. Thing is, when Strahan retires and Kiwi is a great fit at SLB, our teams greatest strength this year just went to a position of pretty good need considering Tuck has not proved he can stay healthy
              im not worried about that, maybe tuck can show something. another DE isnt impossbile to find. also, if kiwi doesnt pan out, he gets moved back to DE. this is a big move that could really pan out, and doesnt really have any potential to come back and haunt us, worst comes to worst, kiwi is lost out there, and kawika steps in. with this move, look for us to sign a UDFA DE or another DE(vet or young kid)
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              • #8
                http://giants.com/news/eisen/story.asp?story_id=25327


                He's gonna start right away.


                I love this. I think that DeOssie might surprise us and end up starting on the weakside from the start. With press coverage, I expect Ross to excel and Madison/Webster to improve to be solid players.

                I think our defense is in great shape, but that we just need to get a big time playmaker at safety

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                • #9
                  Said this in the NFL forum....

                  I actually think Kiwanuka will be used much like Peterson is used in Seattle. We'll see him attacking the backfield, with his hand down, playing a man-zone position.....I can't wait to see how this pans out. I'm expecting some huge things from him this year.
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                  • #10
                    I think that is a very good move by the giants and having DeOssie backing him up is great. I think DeOssie has the potential to be a very good player. This move gets the best players on the field which I like. I think when strahan retires Kinwanuka will move back to DE.

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                    • #11
                      This Makes great sense, we keep better players on the field and adapt to a blitzing defense, the bumping at the line from Ross, who can learn from Madison because Madison is a bump Corner, and Webster might get better because this is the defense he played at LSU. I think that this whole defensive scheme will pay off. The Bumps allow more time for the Blitz and the Blitz allow more time to make plays on the ball.

                      Defensive Starters
                      DE- Osi and Strahan spell Tuck
                      DT- Robbins, Coefield, spell with Alford * I want to trade Joseph, not worth much
                      WLB-Kawika and spell Gerris
                      MLB- Pierce
                      SLB-Kiwanuka and spell either Gerris or Kawika
                      CB-Madison, Ross, Webster, McQuarters spell Dockery and maybe Underwood
                      FS-Will Demps spell with Butler or M.Johnson
                      SS-Gibril Wilson spell with Bell or M. Johnson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BaLLiN72 View Post
                        This Makes great sense, we keep better players on the field and adapt to a blitzing defense, the bumping at the line from Ross, who can learn from Madison because Madison is a bump Corner, and Webster might get better because this is the defense he played at LSU. I think that this whole defensive scheme will pay off. The Bumps allow more time for the Blitz and the Blitz allow more time to make plays on the ball.

                        Defensive Starters
                        DE- Osi and Strahan spell Tuck
                        DT- Robbins, Coefield, spell with Alford * I want to trade Joseph, not worth much
                        WLB-Kawika and spell Gerris
                        MLB- Pierce
                        SLB-Kiwanuka and spell either Gerris or Kawika
                        CB-Madison, Ross, Webster, McQuarters spell Dockery and maybe Underwood
                        FS-Will Demps spell with Butler or M.Johnson
                        SS-Gibril Wilson spell with Bell or M. Johnson

                        Remember, chase blackburn will be backing up pierce most likely. i would not be so sure kawika starts over gerris. if he shows something in preseason and training camp its very possible. also add deossie backing up kiwi

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                        • #13
                          One thing to note, with this move, Gibril and Demps are really gonna have to step it up on man coverage on the TE.

                          I would actually like Kiwi at WILL like Peterson was, and start DeOssie at SAM, that would be better.

                          We'll see how it goes. Im sure Spags will be moving guys around to create mismatches. I look forward to seeing how he does it.

                          This time, we have a DC who will actually do what he says, unlike Tim Lewis.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bigbluedefense View Post
                            One thing to note, with this move, Gibril and Demps are really gonna have to step it up on man coverage on the TE.

                            I would actually like Kiwi at WILL like Peterson was, and start DeOssie at SAM, that would be better.

                            We'll see how it goes. Im sure Spags will be moving guys around to create mismatches. I look forward to seeing how he does it.

                            This time, we have a DC who will actually do what he says, unlike Tim Lewis.
                            DeOssie can't start....not yet. He needs to get stronger....I wouldn't be suprised to see him on the bottom of the OLB depth chart. If Kiwi goes down, I think Mitchell would slide over to SAM and and Wilkinson would play WILL....and even behind that I think Torbor will be ahead of DeOssie at the start.

                            I see DeOssie having a similar role to what Blackburn had his rookie year...special teams ace.
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                            Originally posted by Vikes99ej
                            These last 50 seconds will define Eli Manning.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Number 10 View Post
                              DeOssie can't start....not yet. He needs to get stronger....I wouldn't be suprised to see him on the bottom of the OLB depth chart. If Kiwi goes down, I think Mitchell would slide over to SAM and and Wilkinson would play WILL....and even behind that I think Torbor will be ahead of DeOssie at the start.

                              I see DeOssie having a similar role to what Blackburn had his rookie year...special teams ace.
                              He wouldn't start since day 1, no, I agree with that.

                              But I can see him getting involved in some sort of rotation starting the 8th week of the season. Never start during the year, but I can see him come in some packages and be a rotational guy. I think he will have some sort of impact this upcoming year, with potential to have long term impact on our team.

                              What I like about him is the fact that its almost like we have a Blackburn replacement in the wings. Im pretty sure we're gonna lose Chase this offseason, but we won't miss a beat with DeOssie's versatility.

                              Im gonna miss Chase. If I were a HC running a 3-4, Id snatch up Chase in this offseason in a heartbeat to play ILB.

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