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    My question is this, do we draft him if he's available by our pick? I mean to be perfectly honest, RB's not a huge huge need. I'd like an RT and DL first and foremost, but considering the Jets have no elusive or big play makers on offense (which is what most successful teams need, the game the Jets play to solely get the first down is not good, we need to be thinking TD on every play) and also considering (shy of ONE game) the combo of Jones and Leon has not impressed me one bit, so I do like this pick, especially if McFadden is all he's supposed to be...I mean our team went downhill when we lost Curtis Martin...any significance?

    On a side note, I think Jake Long (converted to RT which is what he should play) or Chris Long or a trade down would be the only other picks I would really like at that spot...
    Glenn Dorsey will slip...

    Jets will not take McFadden...

  • #2
    Depends where our pick is and a lot on where people end up at that point. A guy like Tyson Jackson could be a big riser and I'd definitely take him over McFadden if he is worth a pick at our spot. I wouldn't mind Jake Long even though RT isn't a great value pick right there, but Chris Long doesn't make much sense for us. Word is he's playing at around 265, 270 which is way too light for a 3-4 end. I do like Leon as a back even though he's not perfect he's definitely good in a 1-2 punch and hopefully Jones can continue to stay on a roll after a good week against the Eagles. I do think if we're picking around 5-7 and McFadden is available we'll consider drafting him which I definitely wouldn't mind, but I also would have absolutely no problem to making a trade with a team that wants to shoot up in the draft and grab McFadden...

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    • #3
      It is such a hard choice. I find myself not enjoying seeing that pick in most mocks. But, when i sit down and think about it I really can't be too upset. Granted there are things that I would rather tend to first, but if push comes to shove he is the best player available and if we have the ability to mend both our lines in later picks, than I have no problem with it whatsoever.

      "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time."

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      • #4
        Mind you, it would also allow us to potentially pick up a second or third round pick for Jones potentially...because we wouldn't need both necessarily.

        But I agree it being a difficult choice, a trade might be the best decision at that point because we'd get more than the pick value most likely considering that it's McFadden, but he could be a franchise player and it's tough to pass that up, especially considering we can use a boost at virtually every position.
        Glenn Dorsey will slip...

        Jets will not take McFadden...

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        • #5
          If we went running back for any first day picks, I'd cry.

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          • #6
            i understand the crying part, that is my initial reaction to this pick everytime i see it. But, if we somehow get a guard in the draft or free agency, RT, definately something on the Dline i mean u can't be too upset with it.

            It all depends, if he has a season like AD than i would probably think it was a genius move, but if not than what the F**k where they thinking lol.

            "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time."

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            • #7
              Thomas Jones is a top 15 RB in the NFL. We have no RT, *lots* of defensive problems, and guard problems.

              We can't afford to go RB early.

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              • #8
                Andre Woodson
                Penn State University - Detroit Red Wings - New York Jets - Red Bull New York - Fulham FC

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                • #9
                  I think qb is the very last thing we address lol, but i enjoy the in-your face type of font, A+ for effort.

                  The point i was trying to get across about the McFadden pick is this; it wouldn't be my first pick, however IF it happened I honestly couldn't be too upset as long as we still adressed other needs later in the draft and possibly free agency. I agree we could use an upgrade at RT, although i beleive clement has been pretty good at times this year, but mostly inconsitent (ifyou saw clement against strahan he threw him around a couple times, showing he does have the capability). But, from our record and the way things are going, we are going to have a high top 10 pick. I dont beleive in drafting a RT and definately not a guard with such a high pick. Trading down is always a crapshoot considering there has to be someone who wants what we've got and believes that if we dont take it someone above them will. If there isn't a top DE to fit our 3-4 or anyone willing to trade up, McFadden is arguably the best player in this draft and anytime you can pick up the best player in the draft isn't a bad thing. Personally i feel that we can help the Oline in free agency as well as wnd or 3rd rounds. We need dline help, but theres only a few NTs that are gonna be available. The top tier one's will be coming out the following year most likely. Thus, my point was, I would rather trade down and grab Tyson Jackson (or a comprable DE) and a few more picks, but if we couldn't and wound up with Dmac I definately wouldn't be too upset.

                  "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time."

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                  • #10
                    If we stick in the 3-4 then I would trade with Dallas, give up the Number 3 pick for 8 and 31( just guessing). Then take Long with 8 and the kid from Kansas with 31.
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                    • #11
                      I would be irked if the Jets picked a running back early. It strikes me as to similar to the Bears drafting Cedric Benson early. And as has been mentioned earlier, the Jets have tons of other glaring needs.

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                      • #12
                        How do you guys feel about Darrell Robertson I saw the GT game and he could be a perfect 34 OLB pass rusher. Let me know what you think I think hes a 2nd round talent and could range anywhere on day one from 1st to 3rd round...We'll see at combine and draft time.

                        If Trade with Dallas and 5th rounder for Kendall...

                        1a) Malcom Jenkins CB
                        1b) Frank Okam DE
                        2) Barry Richardson RT
                        3) Darrell Robertson OLB
                        4) Jordan Grimes LG
                        5a) Frank Morton NT
                        5b) Marcus Monk WR
                        6) Amir Pinnix RB
                        7) Ernie Wheelwright WR

                        This would really be a mix of best available per need. Value, yes but I dunno this draft doesn't seem to line up with what we need.
                        QB, OG, OLB, WR, CB, MLB, RB, FS

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                        • #13
                          Okam and Richardson both scare me. They've had attitude issues and I'm just not sure they're the kind of guys we want to take. I've kicked around corner in the first, but just think the value is better for other positions there and thought a guy like Dre Moore (he's going to rise big time) or Quentin Groves is a better fit with that pick. A corner or a guy like Bowman isn't exactly a bad pick there though.

                          If we traded with Dallas and just got the two firsts we're actually not getting good value out of the deal, they're taking about 150 away from us. They'd probably have to give us their second in exchange for a sixth as well. My take assuming a second instead of a sixth is:

                          1a. Dre Moore, DE/DT, Maryland
                          1b. Chris Williams, RT, Vanderbilt
                          2a. Shawn Crable, OLB, Michigan
                          2b. DeJuan Tribble, CB, Boston College
                          3. Kendall Langford, DE, Hampton
                          4. Jordan Grimes, G, Purdue
                          5a. Frank Morton, NT, Tulane
                          5b. Joe Flacco, QB, Delaware
                          7. Cameron Colvin, WR, Oregon

                          My opinion is that a couple of guys are going to rise between now and draft day, so if anybody looks higher than you think they should go thats probably why.
                          Last edited by derza222; 10-24-2007, 07:59 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by hcbrad08 View Post
                            How do you guys feel about Darrell Robertson I saw the GT game and he could be a perfect 34 OLB pass rusher. Let me know what you think I think hes a 2nd round talent and could range anywhere on day one from 1st to 3rd round...We'll see at combine and draft time.

                            If Trade with Dallas and 5th rounder for Kendall...

                            1a) Malcom Jenkins CB
                            1b) Frank Okam DE
                            2) Barry Richardson RT
                            3) Darrell Robertson OLB
                            4) Jordan Grimes LG
                            5a) Frank Morton NT
                            5b) Marcus Monk WR
                            6) Amir Pinnix RB
                            7) Ernie Wheelwright WR

                            This would really be a mix of best available per need. Value, yes but I dunno this draft doesn't seem to line up with what we need.
                            1a and 1b?

                            While we're talking about "how do you guys feel about", how do you guys feel about Kenny Phillips? Erik Coleman hasn't been resigned yet after all.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Crickett View Post
                              1a and 1b?

                              While we're talking about "how do you guys feel about", how do you guys feel about Kenny Phillips? Erik Coleman hasn't been resigned yet after all.
                              He's assuming we trade down with Dallas and pick up their two firsts...

                              I don't really mind Kenny Phillips, though I think he may be a bit overrated right now. If we're picking somewhere in the 6-10 range I'd like the pick a lot more than at 4, but it may be better than grabbing a running back as many have us doing right now. Not sure if the team plans on starting Eric Smith, but if not safety is definitely an area of need that will have to get addressed this draft. Perhaps we take a look at Courtney Greene of Rutgers if he leaves this year, and Reggie Smith of Oklahoma is a CB/S tweener that I think would fit pretty nicely next to Rhodes. I think having a guy with good cover skills next to him would allow Rhodes to really roam around the field and confuse offenses, blitz, drop back into coverage, and do a bunch of different things to keep teams off balance.

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