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  • #76
    Originally posted by derza222 View Post
    True, I guess the thing is if the Saints have a deal worked out with him in principle but he doesn't sign it till free agency it's basically an extension only not for the purposes of the trade.


    Now here's a question that if I could get a specific answer to it would be great. Kerry Rhodes I (and I think some other people here) have assumed is our strong safety. Only when I look at his nfl.com page and our depth chart it has him listed as a free safety. I think he was a strong safety on the Pro Bowl ballot though. So what's the deal? Is he a SS or a FS? That obviously makes a big difference when it comes to the draft because if he's a FS then a guy like William Moore makes more sense if he doesn't continue to drop like a lead balloon. Also, with Rex Ryan coming in I figure Rhodes can play a kind of Ed Reed role for the defense so I checked what Reed is listed as and their depth chart has him listed as a FS also. So some clarification would be awesome since it is relatively important as far as how we're going to address the need there.

    i was confused about the same thing with rhodes and really i think he could be used as either but im not sure what the team uses/views him as...

    i said the same about rhodes playing the ed reed role but i was hoping in the 1st round of this draft we could get taylor mays to do thta or brandon spikes to play the ray lewis role...but there both going back which i was really dissapointed with
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    • #77
      Originally posted by derza222 View Post
      True, I guess the thing is if the Saints have a deal worked out with him in principle but he doesn't sign it till free agency it's basically an extension only not for the purposes of the trade.


      Now here's a question that if I could get a specific answer to it would be great. Kerry Rhodes I (and I think some other people here) have assumed is our strong safety. Only when I look at his nfl.com page and our depth chart it has him listed as a free safety. I think he was a strong safety on the Pro Bowl ballot though. So what's the deal? Is he a SS or a FS? That obviously makes a big difference when it comes to the draft because if he's a FS then a guy like William Moore makes more sense if he doesn't continue to drop like a lead balloon. Also, with Rex Ryan coming in I figure Rhodes can play a kind of Ed Reed role for the defense so I checked what Reed is listed as and their depth chart has him listed as a FS also. So some clarification would be awesome since it is relatively important as far as how we're going to address the need there.
      In the system we have been using our FS and SS are generally interchangeable, it usually depends on the play calling. For our drafting it would be basically finding someone who's strengths compliment Rhodes' weaknesses and vice versa.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by BroadwayJoe10 View Post
        In the system we have been using our FS and SS are generally interchangeable, it usually depends on the play calling. For our drafting it would be basically finding someone who's strengths compliment Rhodes' weaknesses and vice versa.
        It's tough though with Rhodes. He's solid in run support and a great blitzer but isn't really a scary hitter, and he's got nice ball skills but isn't great in coverage. So is the better fit a guy like William Moore or Patrick Chung that could really smack guys when they come across the middle and make some plays on the ball also, or a coverage guy like S/CB tweener Sean Smith of Utah? Rashad Johnson can do a lot of things also so I think he fits regardless I'm trying to look more at opposite ends of the spectrum here.

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        • #79
          I say it's more important to find someone that can play center field and allow Rhodes to go wherever he pleases. Covering up his deficiencies in coverage are more important than getting a guy that can lay the wood IMO. If we want a big hitter, we should be trying our hardest to draft a certain Polynesian.
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          • #80
            Originally posted by thetedginnshow View Post
            I say it's more important to find someone that can play center field and allow Rhodes to go wherever he pleases. Covering up his deficiencies in coverage are more important than getting a guy that can lay the wood IMO. If we want a big hitter, we should be trying our hardest to draft a certain Polynesian.
            Agreed. Sean Smith is probably the best option there but I think Rashad Johnson is solid as well and I know you agree. If Smith rises he's gone by our second rounder anyway, though I think Johnson very well could be also. Maualuga could absolutely be a stud for us I've really been warming up to him though I like Sintim also.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by derza222 View Post
              Agreed. Sean Smith is probably the best option there but I think Rashad Johnson is solid as well and I know you agree. If Smith rises he's gone by our second rounder anyway, though I think Johnson very well could be also. Maualuga could absolutely be a stud for us I've really been warming up to him though I like Sintim also.
              yeah maulugas intensity i think would be a great fit in ryans system, and he would be a great compliment to david harris
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              • #82
                Scott had us talking to Derrick Williams, Nic Harris, and Larry English. English and Harris don't make much sense to me unless English moves inside and I'm not really sure where we'd think Harris could fit in the 3-4 and he doesn't seem to have the speed to move to safety. Williams is interesting because he is a speedy wideout though his lack of production is never something you like to see.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by derza222 View Post
                  Scott had us talking to Derrick Williams, Nic Harris, and Larry English. English and Harris don't make much sense to me unless English moves inside and I'm not really sure where we'd think Harris could fit in the 3-4 and he doesn't seem to have the speed to move to safety. Williams is interesting because he is a speedy wideout though his lack of production is never something you like to see.
                  Well if you look at last year, we didn't even take anyone we looked at. Who knows though. I do wonder who is actually representing us though.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by thetedginnshow View Post
                    Well if you look at last year, we didn't even take anyone we looked at. Who knows though. I do wonder who is actually representing us though.
                    Ya I've always wondered what the teams look at as far as prospects at the senior bowl...it really would be interesting to see who they drafted compared to the players they looked at.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by nyjets5125 View Post
                      yeah maulugas intensity i think would be a great fit in ryans system, and he would be a great compliment to david harris
                      I like rey rey, but i just don't think he compliments harris very well. He has seemed very stiff and pretty poor in coverage and that is one of the things our linebackers were lacking. We desperately need a linebacker who can cover better on the crossing routes.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by thetedginnshow View Post
                        Well if you look at last year, we didn't even take anyone we looked at. Who knows though. I do wonder who is actually representing us though.
                        True, I meant to say that and it just slipped my mind. The players we looked at didn't entirely indicate the positions we were looking at, but did to an extent.

                        Originally posted by BroadwayJoe10 View Post
                        I like rey rey, but i just don't think he compliments harris very well. He has seemed very stiff and pretty poor in coverage and that is one of the things our linebackers were lacking. We desperately need a linebacker who can cover better on the crossing routes.
                        I don't think he compliments Harris all that well but I think in this attacking defense we could definitely get away with having those two in the middle. That said there's talk of him going #6 so I really doubt we're going to have a shot at him anyway.

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                        • #87
                          Quick little dream mock

                          1.Maualaga
                          2.Rashad Johnson
                          3.Derrick Williams
                          4.Andre Brown



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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by JETS5128 View Post
                            Quick little dream mock

                            1.Maualaga
                            2.Rashad Johnson
                            3.Derrick Williams
                            4.Andre Brown
                            man if that happened or somthing even close 2 dat I would go nuts. But hey u never know we could have a draft similar 2 dat.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by JETS5128 View Post
                              Quick little dream mock

                              1.Maualaga
                              2.Rashad Johnson
                              3.Derrick Williams
                              4.Andre Brown
                              thatd be pretty awesome, i highly doubt wiliams falls to the 3rd but if he did thatd be great...mauluaga and johnson i dont think will fall to our pick in those rounds either but they defintely could...i would defintely lik ethat though fills our biggest needs IMO
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by derza222 View Post
                                Scott had us talking to Derrick Williams, Nic Harris, and Larry English. English and Harris don't make much sense to me unless English moves inside and I'm not really sure where we'd think Harris could fit in the 3-4 and he doesn't seem to have the speed to move to safety. Williams is interesting because he is a speedy wideout though his lack of production is never something you like to see.
                                i wouldnt mind williams in the 2nd and if hes in the 3rd i would definitely be for that...english would fit very well as OLB in our 3-4 i think, and i really see a good chance that we got for him in the mid rounds if we do let bryan thomas go...harris, coudl see uslooking at him to team up with harris at ILB since hes got coverage instincts but idk how i would feel about hat, i guess depends when we would take him, if its late im all for it
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