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  • #91
    Originally posted by nyjets5125 View Post
    i wouldnt mind williams in the 2nd and if hes in the 3rd i would definitely be for that...english would fit very well as OLB in our 3-4 i think, and i really see a good chance that we got for him in the mid rounds if we do let bryan thomas go...harris, coudl see uslooking at him to team up with harris at ILB since hes got coverage instincts but idk how i would feel about hat, i guess depends when we would take him, if its late im all for it
    English I think is a top two round guy and unless we're ready to proclaim Gholston a bust and cut Thomas on top of that he probably isn't a starter behind Thomas and/or Gholston and Pace as well. Harris just seems light to me for an ILB in the 3-4, his coverage instincts are nice but I'm not sold he's going to be able to shed and make plays converting from safety to 3-4 ILB. Look at the struggles Vilma had in the scheme and I'd imagine Harris will have even more trouble with the same kind of stuff.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by derza222 View Post
      English I think is a top two round guy and unless we're ready to proclaim Gholston a bust and cut Thomas on top of that he probably isn't a starter behind Thomas and/or Gholston and Pace as well. Harris just seems light to me for an ILB in the 3-4, his coverage instincts are nice but I'm not sold he's going to be able to shed and make plays converting from safety to 3-4 ILB. Look at the struggles Vilma had in the scheme and I'd imagine Harris will have even more trouble with the same kind of stuff.
      about harris, yeah theres a very good chance he doesnt pan out, but if we put him into positions to be more of a coverage LB and let the others blitz and play up on the line more, i think he could have some impact, probably more as a rotational guy though
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      • #93
        Originally posted by nyjets5125 View Post
        about harris, yeah theres a very good chance he doesnt pan out, but if we put him into positions to be more of a coverage LB and let the others blitz and play up on the line more, i think he could have some impact, probably more as a rotational guy though
        Right I get where you're saying, I just think he has more value in a 4-3 than a 3-4 so we may have to draft him in say the 3rd round or so to get him ahead of 4-3 teams, but his value wouldn't quite be there for us.

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        • #94
          I would be very sad if Derrick Williams was on our team.
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          • #95
            Originally posted by thetedginnshow View Post
            I would be very sad if Derrick Williams was on our team.
            He'll be taken before he's worth it IMO so hopefully we're not the team to pull the trigger there.

            Kiper's got us taking Harvin at 17 in his mock, what would you guys think of that if it actually happened?

            Also, how would you feel about potentially trading down (Bears have some pretty well-defined needs so it wouldn't be surprising to see a team jump ahead of them is say...an OL slipped) and grabbing a guy like Delmas?

            Finally, thoughts on Laurinaitis inside a 3-4?

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            • #96
              Originally posted by derza222 View Post
              He'll be taken before he's worth it IMO so hopefully we're not the team to pull the trigger there.

              Kiper's got us taking Harvin at 17 in his mock, what would you guys think of that if it actually happened?

              Also, how would you feel about potentially trading down (Bears have some pretty well-defined needs so it wouldn't be surprising to see a team jump ahead of them is say...an OL slipped) and grabbing a guy like Delmas?

              Finally, thoughts on Laurinaitis inside a 3-4?
              I would be very dissapointed with drafting Harvin mostly because of his injury problems. Trading down is not a terrible idea but i think there will b a player we can really use at 17 so i think we just stay there. and I think Laurinatis can work in the 3-4 and would not mind drafting him

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              • #97
                Originally posted by GET LOOSE View Post
                I would be very dissapointed with drafting Harvin mostly because of his injury problems. Trading down is not a terrible idea but i think there will b a player we can really use at 17 so i think we just stay there. and I think Laurinatis can work in the 3-4 and would not mind drafting him
                I would not be incredibly opposed to Laurinaitis. He may be a better fit for the 4-3, but with his intelligence and speed, he could be a good fit next to Harris if he has good coverage skills. I actually don't know how his coverage skills are, if someone could tell me that would be great because all year I've noticed how many times Harris got beaten in coverage.

                Also, based on his stock I'm not sure it would be good value to take him at 17.
                Last edited by josh07039; 01-23-2009, 11:17 PM.

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                • #98
                  yeah 17 might be too high for him right now but i wouldnt be opposed to taking him, especially if we traded down a bit
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                  • #99
                    I haven't really seen enough of Laurinitis to form a real opinion on him, but i would love the idea of taking Delmas



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                    • The more I think about it the more I'm inclined to believe we're going to move around on draft day early. If you look at our big needs right now (S, ILB, WR, to an extent CB, DE, NT, and QB fits in somewhere as well) we could have a hard time finding a good value at 17. Maualuga, Crabtree, Maclin, Malcolm Jenkins, Raji, Stafford, and Sanchez could all very realistically be gone at 17 and odds are we're only going to be focused on a couple of guys. If they are guys like Rashad Johnson, Delmas, maybe Sintim or Laurinaitis, Nicks, Heyward-Bey, any of the tier 2 corners, Tyson Jackson, and Freeman are in all likelihood reaches at 17. So unless one of the first few guys mentioned slips and we get lucky we'll probably have to trade down (and could be in a position to ahead of the Bears if somebody wants to grab an OL or something), and if one of those first few is "our guy" we'll probably have to move up to secure him. For whatever reason I just can't see us sticking at our spot this year.

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                      • Originally posted by derza222 View Post
                        The more I think about it the more I'm inclined to believe we're going to move around on draft day early. If you look at our big needs right now (S, ILB, WR, to an extent CB, DE, NT, and QB fits in somewhere as well) we could have a hard time finding a good value at 17. Maualuga, Crabtree, Maclin, Malcolm Jenkins, Raji, Stafford, and Sanchez could all very realistically be gone at 17 and odds are we're only going to be focused on a couple of guys. If they are guys like Rashad Johnson, Delmas, maybe Sintim or Laurinaitis, Nicks, Heyward-Bey, any of the tier 2 corners, Tyson Jackson, and Freeman are in all likelihood reaches at 17. So unless one of the first few guys mentioned slips and we get lucky we'll probably have to trade down (and could be in a position to ahead of the Bears if somebody wants to grab an OL or something), and if one of those first few is "our guy" we'll probably have to move up to secure him. For whatever reason I just can't see us sticking at our spot this year.
                        I dont mind trading down as long its 2 draft a player who is a playmaker and can blow the game open because besides Washington we really dont have a guy like that. Coles is past his prime and Cotch is more of a possesion reciver that will be solid every game.

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                        • Originally posted by derza222 View Post
                          The more I think about it the more I'm inclined to believe we're going to move around on draft day early. If you look at our big needs right now (S, ILB, WR, to an extent CB, DE, NT, and QB fits in somewhere as well) we could have a hard time finding a good value at 17. Maualuga, Crabtree, Maclin, Malcolm Jenkins, Raji, Stafford, and Sanchez could all very realistically be gone at 17 and odds are we're only going to be focused on a couple of guys. If they are guys like Rashad Johnson, Delmas, maybe Sintim or Laurinaitis, Nicks, Heyward-Bey, any of the tier 2 corners, Tyson Jackson, and Freeman are in all likelihood reaches at 17. So unless one of the first few guys mentioned slips and we get lucky we'll probably have to trade down (and could be in a position to ahead of the Bears if somebody wants to grab an OL or something), and if one of those first few is "our guy" we'll probably have to move up to secure him. For whatever reason I just can't see us sticking at our spot this year.

                          I think the Jets are going to move too, but probably not for the same reasons as you.

                          I do think one of Jeremy Maclin, William Moore, James Laurinitis, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Vontae Davis or Tyson Jackson will be there are the Jets would be inclined to take them (even if I'm not thrilled with Jackson or Davis as the pick).

                          However, the Jets have been notorious for trading up the past few years to get who they want early on. So the Jets could very well use a third or a fourth to trade up in the first round if there is something they're targeting. Especially since the last time the Jets drafted an impact player in the third round was Kareem McKenzie in 2001.

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                          • Originally posted by Crickett View Post
                            I think the Jets are going to move too, but probably not for the same reasons as you.

                            I do think one of Jeremy Maclin, William Moore, James Laurinitis, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Vontae Davis or Tyson Jackson will be there are the Jets would be inclined to take them (even if I'm not thrilled with Jackson or Davis as the pick).

                            However, the Jets have been notorious for trading up the past few years to get who they want early on. So the Jets could very well use a third or a fourth to trade up in the first round if there is something they're targeting. Especially since the last time the Jets drafted an impact player in the third round was Kareem McKenzie in 2001.
                            I'll be honest I wouldn't be incredibly thrilled with Heyward-Bey or Laurinaitis either (though if the staff thinks JL can do it then I'll be alright with it I guess) because of value and fit, and William Moore I don't think presents the value either. So basically of that list the only guy I'd be really happy with is Maclin, and I'm afraid he's going to be gone.

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                            • I think considering that there's about 3 or 4 teams ahead of us that seem to have almost the exact same needs as us, I feel like we're going to trade up in the 2nd round since that obviously would be less expensive than going up in the 1st. And we'd have to count on a stud dropping down in the 1st because otherwise, it's really hard to trade down. I don't know. We'll see.
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                              • Originally posted by thetedginnshow View Post
                                I think considering that there's about 3 or 4 teams ahead of us that seem to have almost the exact same needs as us, I feel like we're going to trade up in the 2nd round since that obviously would be less expensive than going up in the 1st. And we'd have to count on a stud dropping down in the 1st because otherwise, it's really hard to trade down. I don't know. We'll see.
                                It should be interesting to see which direction we go in. For the first time in a couple years I have no idea what player or position we will be targeting. We have made good picks in the middle and end of the 1st round, so i'm not anticipating anything differently.

                                It's also a fairly deep draft overall, especially with OTs, so hopefully teams will go with Oline first and have someone we need fall to us.


                                Additionally, Gholsten is like another first rounder this year, in that I am probably anticipating seeing him play more than anyone we draft.

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