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  • #16
    I already asked about Cody, but what are everyone's thoughts on two other SEC guys: Joe Haden and Dan Williams?

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    • #17
      Don't know about those 3 guys (derza222) mentioned.. "Canes fan.. But, is Allen Bailey a 2nd round prospect who could be a DE for us? To me he has the prototypical 34 DE body. Plus Isn't Shaun Ellis only in the 280's? Yea 6-5/285 (on espn).. Bailey's listed on rivals 6-4/288

      And I know size isn't exactly everything.
      Last edited by katnip; 12-20-2009, 10:51 AM.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by katnip View Post
        Don't know about those 3 guys (derza222) mentioned.. "Canes fan.. But, is Allen Bailey a 2nd round prospect who could be a DE for us? To me he has the prototypical 34 DE body. Plus Isn't Shaun Ellis only in the 280's? Yea 6-5/285 (on espn).. Bailey's listed on rivals 6-4/288

        And I know size isn't exactly everything.
        Bailey would be a perfect fit in our sheme. Right now he is a borderline 1st round pick. But he is going to tear up the combine and shoot up draft boards which will make him a first round pick. If he does declare, we will most likely have to take him in the 1st.

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        • #19
          There are a lot of things that need to be cleared up before talking about which positions we need to start drafting (will we resign lito/braylon/TJ/leon? are we going to trade rhodes? is richardson going to retire? etc.), but right now, i think we should be focusing on getting younger at the defensive line, picking up a pass rusher at OLB, and finding eventual replacements for faneca and woody. right now, i would be happy taking a DE, NT, or OLB in the 1st round. i know we guys like pouha and devito have stepped up this year, but i'd feel more comfortable if we upgraded there, and i'm a big believer in having a lot of defensive line depth. also, i have officially given up on gholston. even if he does show some type of improvement, there is no way he becomes a 10+ sack a season kind of guy. i think we need a guy like that to make our defense even better. it would allow rex to do a lot more with the blitzing packages as well. so a guy like jerry hughes or brandon graham in the 1st would be fine by me.

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          • #20
            I'm going to cry if you guys land Golden Tate.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BuffaloBillsFan View Post
              I'm going to cry if you guys land Golden Tate.
              I would say that there is a strong possibility of the Jets taking Tate. Our passing game has been terrible and Im sure they want somebody who will help Sanchez and be able to stretch the field. You may be crying on draft day.

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              • #22
                The Bills are expected to interview Schottenheimer for their head coaching job. For the sake of our offense, I hope he gets offered the job and hopefully he takes it.

                Edit: Wrong thread. Sorry.
                Last edited by Hurricanes25; 01-02-2010, 07:17 PM.

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                • #23
                  If Rex gets his hands on an actual pass rusher, someone who can allow Rex to put pressure on the QB without blitzing, this defense will be scary good. If Gholston could play like Brian Orakpo, our defense would be just that much better... I love me some Golden Tate or Shipley, but a pass rusher would be ideal. Also, another CB and DE would be nice.

                  I love how Pouha, Devito, Douglas and Green have stepped up. Gives us a little more leverage with our draft.

                  "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time."

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                  • #24
                    I know AFC championship game is on all our minds and the draft can really wait, but I just had some crazy thoughts recently...

                    Considering that next season is uncapped and we have some aging money on our roster. While 2010 will probably be an uncapped season and we are in the final four meaning we can only sign as many free agents as we lose we might have to make some crafty/borderline psycho roster moves to take our team to an elite level. These are just some of the paths I believe we should CONSIDER

                    TRADE:
                    Thomas Jones
                    Kerry Rhodes
                    1st 2010 1st Rounder

                    to

                    Cleveland for the 3rd pick overall

                    This is a pretty intense and risky move but one of the biggest risks with picking at the top of the draft is the money you have to invest in a rookie mainly the HUGE bonus. This year Suh and Berry will likely be sitting around 3.
                    If we could take either we would improve our team tremendously and get so much younger. I think the Cleveland element is realistic as we all know because they are sooo bad and have so many holes to fill they would get 3 players TJ, KR and whoever they take at 32 (yea I said it) to help them and the older contract wont hurt them in an uncapped year. Just a spit ball bc I dont like the depth at some positions in this years draft so it MAY be worth going after some top heavy talent. Just imagine, Suh, Jenkins and Ellis with Pouha,Douglas, Green and DeVito backing them up. That line would allow us to do even more blitz packages that Revis helps with now. And in a Berry Scenario, Ryan gets Ed Reeds CLONE in Berry to play beside the vet and scrappy Leonhard. I get goosebumps thinking about it.

                    STOCK PILE
                    Another option could be to stock pile some picks by trading TJ and Kerry in the uncapped season. We could target depth needs at DL, WR, ILB, S, and OL. I wouldn't mind grabbing a later 1st or a couple of 2nds or a combo of 2nds 3rds and mids to see a good team stay deep to truly prolong the success Rex believes we will have for years to come.

                    but in order to really prolong our success

                    RESTRUCTURING
                    I would like to see the Jets restructure some contracts that will be coming due like Brick (2012), Mangold (2011), Harris (2011). I'd like to see the Jets take advantage of an uncapped year and restructure and EXTEND contracts frontloading money to the uncapped year so we can keep our core of young players together for longer. Im not sure if there will be rules against this but its definitely worth a shot.

                    Draft Needs (for depth or other reasons) as I see it in no REAL order but close to something

                    DE
                    WR
                    RT
                    ILB
                    CB
                    FS
                    DT
                    RB
                    OG
                    FB

                    Players I'm looking at draft and free agency:

                    Braylon Edwards: Need to give him a full season-great run blocker and has size. Has to stop drops for long term deal.

                    Chad Pennington: His career is probably over, BUT wouldn't it be perfect to have a vet come in not really so much as a backup but as a tutor to aid Sanchez and Schotty in developing the offense and Sanchez studying skills. He's a smart guy who could help in the film room almost as another coach and provide a security blanket and some experience to a QB group that now outside of Sanchez lacks any starting experience (Clemens is gone as a FA). Also Chad retires as a Jet; he stil has a lot of ties to the community with the 1st and 10 foundation and he wont likely have many suitors should he decide to return. Unless a BAD team allows him to start I think this is his and our best BACKUP option.

                    Terrence Cody
                    Corey Wooton
                    Mike Neal
                    Myron Lewis
                    Golden Tate
                    Mike Williams
                    Taylor Price
                    Jacoby Ford
                    Toby Gerhart
                    Ryan D'Imperio
                    AJ Edds

                    Lemme know when you guys get a chance to look at this...in between now and when we win the SB...Hey if Rex says it so will I. God I love that MAN

                    ALSO:

                    check out the Kissing Suzy Kolber site for the Rex Ryan mock conversations and pep talks to the team absolutely PRICELESS. He probably has said things similar, just unreal.
                    QB, OG, OLB, WR, CB, MLB, RB, FS

                    Exactly Why The Jets were the Coolest Team in the NFL under Rex, but Bowles is the man-see Arians speech:

                    http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/...x-in-town.html


                    http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/...e-for-you.html

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                    • #25
                      I just watched what Al Trautwig thinks will happen in the Jets vs. the Colts upcoming game! Check it outů.http://blogs.msg.com/gameon/2010/01/...wn-jets-colts/

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                      • #26
                        Probably just a knee jerk reaction, but a second corner would be really nice.

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                        • #27
                          This is going to sound strange after watching that game, but I'm going to say no. Weren't Sheppard and Strickland hurt or something? I would have to think so given Drew Coleman's participation in the game.

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                          • #28
                            IMO, corner and pass rusher are our top 2 needs without a doubt



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                            • #29
                              We had the best pass defense all year long, I really don't think secondary is our biggest need. Having strickland go down was huge; if you noticed, they went right at Lito as soon as he was put in and than went to 3 and 4 WR sets all game long.

                              Bottom line was that Manning and Moore were able to pick up the blitz and take advantage of the matchup problems that were created.


                              I think a pass rusher is our biggest need. You can't expect our secondary to stop Manning when he's getting 4+ seconds to throw the ball. Manning was just brilliant in picking up our blitzes, absolutely fantastic.


                              Biggest play of the game was when Greene went down. Couldn't keep our defense rested and couldn't get anything on first and second downs with TJ.

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                              • #30
                                I want to agree that corner isn't a big need, but Sheppard and Strickland consistently got hurt all year. What reason do we have to think next year will be any different?

                                Right now, I'm thinking pass rusher in round 1 and corner in round 2
                                Last edited by JETS5128; 01-24-2010, 05:57 PM.



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