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  • We don't need a corner. Our secondary is getting burned from time to time because we are forced to blitz so often, because of our weak front seven. If anything, our seconday is our strong point. Ray Mcdonald from Florida I think would make an excellent DE in our system. I would love to pick him up in the second round.

    I wouldn't rule out runningback either. Especially if a Marshawn Lynch type were to be there.

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    • Originally posted by Zim3031
      We don't need a corner. Our secondary is getting burned from time to time because we are forced to blitz so often, because of our weak front seven. If anything, our seconday is our strong point. Ray Mcdonald from Florida I think would make an excellent DE in our system. I would love to pick him up in the second round.

      I wouldn't rule out runningback either. Especially if a Marshawn Lynch type were to be there.
      Has nothing to do with our secondary getting burned, I just think our corners are weak. In my opinion we don't have two starting corners on this team, Dyson is the only one. Miller is not a good corner by any stretch of the imagination, and Coleman just doesn't have what it takes to start in the league IMO, too insconsistant and not big enough. I just think we could use another starter and if we can find a good value we should definitely go for it.

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      • Originally posted by derza222
        Originally posted by Zim3031
        We don't need a corner. Our secondary is getting burned from time to time because we are forced to blitz so often, because of our weak front seven. If anything, our seconday is our strong point. Ray Mcdonald from Florida I think would make an excellent DE in our system. I would love to pick him up in the second round.

        I wouldn't rule out runningback either. Especially if a Marshawn Lynch type were to be there.
        Has nothing to do with our secondary getting burned, I just think our corners are weak. In my opinion we don't have two starting corners on this team, Dyson is the only one. Miller is not a good corner by any stretch of the imagination, and Coleman just doesn't have what it takes to start in the league IMO, too insconsistant and not big enough. I just think we could use another starter and if we can find a good value we should definitely go for it.

        how about instead of drafting a CB, we sign one of the NE cornerbacks who are free agents this year, either G a y or Samuel. They probably both know Mangini well and we could probably pay them more than the Pats would be willing to.


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        • Originally posted by throwback54milkman
          Originally posted by derza222
          Originally posted by Zim3031
          We don't need a corner. Our secondary is getting burned from time to time because we are forced to blitz so often, because of our weak front seven. If anything, our seconday is our strong point. Ray Mcdonald from Florida I think would make an excellent DE in our system. I would love to pick him up in the second round.

          I wouldn't rule out runningback either. Especially if a Marshawn Lynch type were to be there.
          Has nothing to do with our secondary getting burned, I just think our corners are weak. In my opinion we don't have two starting corners on this team, Dyson is the only one. Miller is not a good corner by any stretch of the imagination, and Coleman just doesn't have what it takes to start in the league IMO, too insconsistant and not big enough. I just think we could use another starter and if we can find a good value we should definitely go for it.

          how about instead of drafting a CB, we sign one of the NE cornerbacks who are free agents this year, either G a y or Samuel. They probably both know Mangini well and we could probably pay them more than the Pats would be willing to.
          I have no problem with getting a cornerback through FA or trade, don't know how much they'll want though I don't wanna overpay anyone. Draft is always nice though. As long as they're young and we don't overpay (in a trade or contract amount) I'm good with however we get them though.

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          • Originally posted by derza222
            Originally posted by throwback54milkman
            Originally posted by derza222
            Originally posted by Zim3031
            We don't need a corner. Our secondary is getting burned from time to time because we are forced to blitz so often, because of our weak front seven. If anything, our seconday is our strong point. Ray Mcdonald from Florida I think would make an excellent DE in our system. I would love to pick him up in the second round.

            I wouldn't rule out runningback either. Especially if a Marshawn Lynch type were to be there.
            Has nothing to do with our secondary getting burned, I just think our corners are weak. In my opinion we don't have two starting corners on this team, Dyson is the only one. Miller is not a good corner by any stretch of the imagination, and Coleman just doesn't have what it takes to start in the league IMO, too insconsistant and not big enough. I just think we could use another starter and if we can find a good value we should definitely go for it.

            how about instead of drafting a CB, we sign one of the NE cornerbacks who are free agents this year, either G a y or Samuel. They probably both know Mangini well and we could probably pay them more than the Pats would be willing to.
            I have no problem with getting a cornerback through FA or trade, don't know how much they'll want though I don't wanna overpay anyone. Draft is always nice though. As long as they're young and we don't overpay (in a trade or contract amount) I'm good with however we get them though.
            We do need something at CB. I am overly loyal, but I still am holding hope that Justin Miller turns it around and becomes a solid cb.

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            • Originally posted by josh07039
              Originally posted by derza222
              Originally posted by throwback54milkman
              Originally posted by derza222
              Originally posted by Zim3031
              We don't need a corner. Our secondary is getting burned from time to time because we are forced to blitz so often, because of our weak front seven. If anything, our seconday is our strong point. Ray Mcdonald from Florida I think would make an excellent DE in our system. I would love to pick him up in the second round.

              I wouldn't rule out runningback either. Especially if a Marshawn Lynch type were to be there.
              Has nothing to do with our secondary getting burned, I just think our corners are weak. In my opinion we don't have two starting corners on this team, Dyson is the only one. Miller is not a good corner by any stretch of the imagination, and Coleman just doesn't have what it takes to start in the league IMO, too insconsistant and not big enough. I just think we could use another starter and if we can find a good value we should definitely go for it.

              how about instead of drafting a CB, we sign one of the NE cornerbacks who are free agents this year, either G a y or Samuel. They probably both know Mangini well and we could probably pay them more than the Pats would be willing to.
              I have no problem with getting a cornerback through FA or trade, don't know how much they'll want though I don't wanna overpay anyone. Draft is always nice though. As long as they're young and we don't overpay (in a trade or contract amount) I'm good with however we get them though.
              We do need something at CB. I am overly loyal, but I still am holding hope that Justin Miller turns it around and becomes a solid cb.
              Aren't we all hoping Miller turns it around? I just think at this point we can't expect it and if we get a shot to pick somebody up thats a good value we have to do it. Get some competition, light a fire under his ass maybe, I don't care as long as we have a decent starting pair of corners. I think we've got 2 number 3's a 3/4 and a 1/2 corner on this team, so getting another guy who is a legit starter would be nice.

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              • Originally posted by derza222
                Originally posted by throwback54milkman
                Upcoming draft:

                It looks like now that Dewayne is playing much much better, DE/OLB is the biggest need for next year (even though Hobson is also playing better). LaMarr Woodley seems to be the obvious pick, but does he fit the Mangini mold of tough, smart, hard-working players?? If so, I think he will be the pick come April.
                Wouldn't be surprised if we went with a corner in round 1 either. I just wonder if Woodley has the speed to play 3-4 OLB. I mentioned it before, Anthony Spencer from Purdue intrigues me. For some reason I think we're going to go after him (or a corner) in the first. Don't ask me why, just a gut feeling.
                I like Anthony Spencer alot. Right now he's a round 2 range, but his stock can skyrocket depending on his combine. Ive been very critical of Lamar Woodley's lack of burst and speed as a whole throught the year, its really gonna take some weight loss and an impressive 40 time for me to believe that he can be an elite player at the next level.

                Im still surprised that you guys didn't bite on Mark Andersen this past draft. When I saw him fall I thought for sure you guys would draft him as a rushbacker, but it never happened. He fell to the 5th round! I was shocked, he wouldve been a good project for the Jets, and I think he wouldve been successful too.

                I think a FS like Reggie Nelson would be the perfect compliment to Rhodes in that secondary.

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                • Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                  Originally posted by derza222
                  Originally posted by throwback54milkman
                  Upcoming draft:

                  It looks like now that Dewayne is playing much much better, DE/OLB is the biggest need for next year (even though Hobson is also playing better). LaMarr Woodley seems to be the obvious pick, but does he fit the Mangini mold of tough, smart, hard-working players?? If so, I think he will be the pick come April.
                  Wouldn't be surprised if we went with a corner in round 1 either. I just wonder if Woodley has the speed to play 3-4 OLB. I mentioned it before, Anthony Spencer from Purdue intrigues me. For some reason I think we're going to go after him (or a corner) in the first. Don't ask me why, just a gut feeling.
                  I like Anthony Spencer alot. Right now he's a round 2 range, but his stock can skyrocket depending on his combine. Ive been very critical of Lamar Woodley's lack of burst and speed as a whole throught the year, its really gonna take some weight loss and an impressive 40 time for me to believe that he can be an elite player at the next level.

                  Im still surprised that you guys didn't bite on Mark Andersen this past draft. When I saw him fall I thought for sure you guys would draft him as a rushbacker, but it never happened. He fell to the 5th round! I was shocked, he wouldve been a good project for the Jets, and I think he wouldve been successful too.

                  I think a FS like Reggie Nelson would be the perfect compliment to Rhodes in that secondary.
                  Nelson would definitely be a nice compliment to Rhodes, depending on who's available I could see us going in that direction. That said, safety is probably the best postion on our defense. I still think we need another starting caliber corner on our D as well. At the same time, the front 7 needs help so we don't have to blitz as much and leave our corners on an island. It's tough with so many needs, but at the same time its nice because we have so many directions we can go in on draft day we could almost (almost) pick the best defensive player available.

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                  • Idk if anybody saw the article in the Star Ledger today, but it said Barlow is out of the 3 RB rotation, and that Leon Washington and Ced Houston will only split the carries- idk how much truth there is to this, but it is very interesting considering the game Barlow had against the Pats.


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                    • Originally posted by throwback54milkman
                      Idk if anybody saw the article in the Star Ledger today, but it said Barlow is out of the 3 RB rotation, and that Leon Washington and Ced Houston will only split the carries- idk how much truth there is to this, but it is very interesting considering the game Barlow had against the Pats.
                      Yeah I did see that. I'm not sure if I really dislike the move, he did have a great game against the Pats but hasn't really done too much. In my opinion, Houston is the best back we have anyway so now that we have him back those two can split carries. I'm sure its tough for Pennington to come up with audibles with 3 completely different backs behind him, it seems like sometimes the play we run would be perfect for Washington but we have Barlow in the backfield and it goes for a loss, so hopefully it helps that. All in all I hope Houston gets the bulk of the carries and Washington gets touches on draws, outside runs, and screens to take advantage of his speed, agility, and receiving ability.

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                      • would you guys like that?

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                        • Originally posted by tishdog




                          would you guys like that?
                          You know I especially would. As I have previously stated, I would quite literally cry with joy.

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                          • I think I'd be more excited that Derrick Blaylock would be off to take 23

                            But seriously I would love to have Brian Leonard.

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                            • Damn Bengals... I usually love them, but if they keep winning, we'll never get in. :(

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                              • Originally posted by frogstomp
                                Damn Bengals... I usually love them, but if they keep winning, we'll never get in. :(
                                If we we this weekend, we will be 7-5 also.

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