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  • im pretty sure mccareins will make big plays for us later in the year, but my sweet god how did he drop those, especially the first one. In coles' defense that pass was a bit low, but i have seen him make that catch many a time.
    I know how it sucks to say even tho we lost we saw some positive things, well we did; kellen clemens looked solid in the 4th quarter. Damn, lots of positives in the 4th quarter, but it sucks to start off 0-2.

    "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time."

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    • Originally posted by nvot9 View Post
      Lets see, two dropped touchdown passes, and then a bobbled TD pass the turns into an int.

      I think the receivers were trying to make Clemens look bad...
      I don't know about that. Cotchery made him look pretty good today. He had some nice grabs.

      Clemens had a good game today.

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      • I hate Mcareins




















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        • Well, here's to being a chargers fan for the next 4 hours. Damn, i really liked the way things were going especially after we got the booth review in our favor. I just thought it was very telling how we had 3 time outs and 1:30 on the clock and didn't even attempt a run play; we definately need to become more consistent with opening lanes. WE had some huge holes on some plays, then other plays there were more ravens in the backfield than jets players. That happened with moore; he absolutely decleated someone right after making a nice block to begin with, than the next play just whiffed on that guy who tripped up TJ in the backfield. I really think we just need to preach consistency. THat having been said; if we can play well against miami and buffalo i beleive we can finish 6-3 or 5-4 by our bye week and still finish the season 10-6 or 9-7. THe later probably being more accurate, but one can be optimistic. I think our team has shown very good quarters; once they do that for an entire game it'll be a beautiful thing.
          Last edited by BroadwayJoe10; 09-16-2007, 06:50 PM.

          "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time."

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          • This game reminded me of the first pats game from a year ago, getting destroyed in the first half and nearly coming back. In spite of the loss, A LOT of good came out of this game.

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            • ^Yeah, I couldn't help but to think that as well.

              Clemens showed a lot of poise late in the game... he can make every kind of throw, and into tight spots I might add. That's what seperates KC from Chad.

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              • Originally posted by Bluedevil$ View Post
                ^Yeah, I couldn't help but to think that as well.

                Clemens showed a lot of poise late in the game... he can make every kind of throw, and into tight spots I might add. That's what seperates KC from Chad.
                No, that's what makes them comparable. Chad woulda won the game for us had he been in...Chad completes nearly every throw and is great late in the game, much like we saw Clemens attempt at the end..
                Glenn Dorsey will slip...

                Jets will not take McFadden...

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                • There were a lot of reasons why we lost, but Clemens wasn't one of them.

                  We have to stop giving up these TDs right before the half.

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                  • Originally posted by AlexDown View Post
                    There were a lot of reasons why we lost, but Clemens wasn't one of them.

                    We have to stop giving up these TDs right before the half.
                    ahmen those really are momentum shifters



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                    • can't agree more about that bro. But, what i was wondering was; was that rhodes' fault bein so far from heap, or was that blown coverage by barrett and rhodes was desperately trying to make up for it and in turn was made look like it was his fault? and who would have ever thought the jets would be 0-2 while the LIons are 2-0 haha well besides john kitna who guaranteed 10 wins. I bet that gaurantee will be a little hard to fulfill if hes standing on the sideline next week.

                      "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time."

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                      • My thoughts on the game...
                        -Clemens played really well in the fourth which is an extremely good sign. It would be wrong to expect him to play that way the entire game when this was his first ever start. Like almost all QBs he needed time to settle down and really get a feeling on what its like playing a NFL game. Now that he's got one game under his belt look for him to play well when he needs to, depending on Chad's injury.
                        -The offensive line looked horrible. D'Brickashaw was thrown off the line multiple times, and they let Kellen get hit way too much. Its hard to generate any offensive flow when your line is getting man handled. On that note, Jones did fairly well considering the line was not opening holes for him.
                        -McCareins may have had a rough game, and yes Coles missed that catch, but on the whole the recievers played well. Cotchery helped Clemens out a lot, and I look forward to seeing what those 2 will do in the future. I'm kind of disappointed that Chansi Stuckey did not get any time, because he has the potential to be a good deep threat, like Coles, but, unlike Coles, he probably would not have been double teamed.
                        -The defense bent, but did not break. They had some horrible drives which led to Baltimore getting 20 points, but they did not get blown away. A pass rush must be generated if the Jets expect to win, because even Boller can have a good day with 5+ seconds in the pocket. The secondary did not do terrible, but Andre Dyson will be welcomed back with huge smiles.
                        -Nugent put a nice kick in from 50. Nothing special in the return game. Our coverage on kick returns has been real bad. In week 1 we let up a touchdown. In week 2 our 5'9" 180 lbs kicker saves one by sacrificing his body. Westerhoff is a great ST coach, so I think they'll get on the right track very soon.

                        These 2 weeks have been rough playing 2 extremely strong defenses so coming away 0-2 is not too much of a shock. We've got Miami next, who have been playing bad this year, next so hopefully our offense (under #10 or #11) can step it up and put some points on the board. Let's also hope that the defense figures out a way to get the Trent Green, because he's an easy target back there, and Bryan Thomas should have a field day against him. Go Gang Green
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                        • My thoughts on the game:

                          McCareins should be cut, right now.

                          Clemens is the future.

                          Defense needs improvement.

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                          • Originally posted by nvot9 View Post
                            No, that's what makes them comparable. Chad woulda won the game for us had he been in...Chad completes nearly every throw and is great late in the game, much like we saw Clemens attempt at the end..
                            sorry, sarcasm? Pennington is THE worst QB in the league in late in the game/ pressure situations. Its why well never win a SB with him. He cant make the throws when you need him to. Clemens almost won the game today. Ill take an almost win rather than, just another lost.

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                            • Originally posted by mangini for pres View Post
                              My thoughts on the game...
                              -Clemens played really well in the fourth which is an extremely good sign. It would be wrong to expect him to play that way the entire game when this was his first ever start. Like almost all QBs he needed time to settle down and really get a feeling on what its like playing a NFL game. Now that he's got one game under his belt look for him to play well when he needs to, depending on Chad's injury.
                              -The offensive line looked horrible. D'Brickashaw was thrown off the line multiple times, and they let Kellen get hit way too much. Its hard to generate any offensive flow when your line is getting man handled. On that note, Jones did fairly well considering the line was not opening holes for him.
                              -McCareins may have had a rough game, and yes Coles missed that catch, but on the whole the recievers played well. Cotchery helped Clemens out a lot, and I look forward to seeing what those 2 will do in the future. I'm kind of disappointed that Chansi Stuckey did not get any time, because he has the potential to be a good deep threat, like Coles, but, unlike Coles, he probably would not have been double teamed.
                              -The defense bent, but did not break. They had some horrible drives which led to Baltimore getting 20 points, but they did not get blown away. A pass rush must be generated if the Jets expect to win, because even Boller can have a good day with 5+ seconds in the pocket. The secondary did not do terrible, but Andre Dyson will be welcomed back with huge smiles.
                              -Nugent put a nice kick in from 50. Nothing special in the return game. Our coverage on kick returns has been real bad. In week 1 we let up a touchdown. In week 2 our 5'9" 180 lbs kicker saves one by sacrificing his body. Westerhoff is a great ST coach, so I think they'll get on the right track very soon.

                              These 2 weeks have been rough playing 2 extremely strong defenses so coming away 0-2 is not too much of a shock. We've got Miami next, who have been playing bad this year, next so hopefully our offense (under #10 or #11) can step it up and put some points on the board. Let's also hope that the defense figures out a way to get the Trent Green, because he's an easy target back there, and Bryan Thomas should have a field day against him. Go Gang Green
                              I agree with most of that except for the O-line. Alot of the time the ravens were sending more blitzers than we had blockers and Clemens failed to get rid of the ball. A good portion of the sacks were because of this. Then in the fourth Clemens finally started to get the ball out in time which in turn made the Ravens stop blitzing. Once the ravens stopped blitzing Clemens had alot of time to throw and thats when he hit his groove and played very well



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                              • Originally posted by 'cuse-213 View Post
                                McCareins should be cut, right now.
                                I know many Jet fans are angry with this guy. I think he feels pretty bad about the game today and to be honest, he hasn't really shown us much since he has been here. However, I don't think cutting him now is very realistic. I'm still willing to give this guy more chances.

                                Clemens is the future.
                                He played a solid game today. Really couldn't have asked much more from him. However, unless Chad gets hurt, I see him playing out the remainder of his contract. The guy, in my opinion, is a very good QB. I don't see Clemens beating him out anytime soon.

                                Defense needs improvement.
                                I think they looked a lot better then last game. Although, you have to take that with a grain of salt since it is Baltimore's O we are talking about. They had some big stops, especially on that last Baltimore possession.

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