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  • Sorry, but you forgot Danny Woodhead.

    http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/con..._Woodhead.html

    NFL | Woodhead impressed at Pro Day - from www.KFFL.com
    Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:02:08 -0700

    Eric Olson, of The Associated Press, reports Chadron State RB Danny Woodhead impressed at his Pro Day. Woodhead posted between a 4.33 and 4.38 40-yard dash, a 38 1/2-inch vertical jump and completed 20 repetitions on the 225-pound bench press. He was not invited to the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine in February.
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    • Originally posted by thetedginnshow View Post
      Sorry, but you forgot Danny Woodhead.

      http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/con..._Woodhead.html
      How trustworthy is the 40 time if he wasn't at the combine?

      If the workout numbers are honest, I'd love the Jets to bring him in for a try out. Keep in mind that fast Willie Parker didn't even have a draft profile once upon a time.

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      • Originally posted by Crickett View Post
        How trustworthy is the 40 time if he wasn't at the combine?

        If the workout numbers are honest, I'd love the Jets to bring him in for a try out. Keep in mind that fast Willie Parker didn't even have a draft profile once upon a time.
        Oh, I guess that was a little confusing. He's already been signed by the Jets. But of course, considering that he wasn't part of some big-time program that may be able to skew their data well, I'd say it's fairly legit. You can't really mess with the vertical and the bench reps, and at the very worst, he runs somewhere in the 4.4 range. But hell, he put up gaudy numbers and has some crazy athleticism. Just a little small. I think he could be a fantastic gunner or returner.
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        • Originally posted by thetedginnshow View Post
          Oh, I guess that was a little confusing.

          No, its just what I get for not actually clicking on the link before I wrote that. :o

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          • Originally posted by The Great Jonathan Vilma View Post
            a TE who 'may' have a 'slight chance' of making an impact, or 'another potential shut down corner'?

            Seems like you are making one prospect seem much more sure than the other. You could throw an arguement like that for every draft pick. Flowers is no more a sure thing than Keller, and Keller can have just as big, if not a bigger impact than Flowers. The pass rush was addressed this offseason and should help the CBs, something that made them potentially look worse than they are back there.

            You seem to put a whole lot of emphasis on the TE title. You realize that this guy is an athlete right? a converted WR. He has the size, speed, and jumping ability that this team needs, even if he doesn't go by the title of WR. he is more than capable of playing as a WR in packages, and doesn't have the many character or injury concerns that many of these 'top WRs' you speak of have. I'd say he's probably the safer of the selections. You seem to act as though those injury and character concerns aren't issues, and that Keller is an inferior prospect to them, which is clearly not the case.

            Some people are saying 'who cares if the WRs fell, that means nothing!', this clearly is not true. Of course talented players fall every year, and no one is saying that isn't the case. But many teams passed on a position of need (WR) for a reason, most noteably the character and injury concerns, as well as other deficiencies that each player has. This is not to say Keller is without his faults, but do not ignore the facts. The order of drafting WRs in the draft also speaks to the uncertainty in each players quality. how many people had Avery as the first WR off the board?

            I agree that the Jets easily could have stayed pat and just selected a tall WR in the 2nd, and that is what i fully expected them to do. I was skeptical at first when i saw the Keller selection, but do not just get caught up in the 'he's a TE, we need a WR', as he is capable of playing WR also. He will give more room to the current WRs and is a YAC guy and security blanket for a young QB. Henry is a big WR that we got in a later round to help for the redzone.

            I am not saying that WR isn't a concern, as it is, and it needs to be addressed to get more depth and look to the future. Just don't rule out Keller so quickly. He has great character and a terrific work ethic, factors you know weighed into managements decision. Don't automatically assume that those other prospects we passed on will boom and our pick will bust
            i dont think we had to trade up to take a TE. and yes i know he is an athlete, like everyone else. excuse me for having an opinion like everyone else here. i think flowers would have made a better impact, on our team, at his position. just like the last guy ive been a fan for almost 30 years and there have been alot of WTFs that the organization stood by.
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            • For the projected depth chart, do we still have Wade Smith? I thought he signed with someone (KC maybe?) but perhaps I'm thinking of another former backup OL on our squad.

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              • Originally posted by gio View Post
                i dont think we had to trade up to take a TE. and yes i know he is an athlete, like everyone else. excuse me for having an opinion like everyone else here. i think flowers would have made a better impact, on our team, at his position. just like the last guy ive been a fan for almost 30 years and there have been alot of WTFs that the organization stood by.
                you don't need to keep with the 'sorry for having an opinion' crap. No one is bashing you for saying something different, but rather having a realistic discussion. if you want to cry about how people are disagreeing with you and that they don't happen to agree with your opinion so be it, but it is not needed. Your opinion is fine, and everyone is accepting it, just like you should accept others. Your opinion makes sense, and i agree with you that going that route would have been good also, however, i like what Keller provides and think it will work out. If you want to play the negative on the situation that is fine, but that doesn't mean i have to agree with it. Take it or leave it


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                • Obviously you can say its homerism, but i just know Rutgers guys better cause i get to see them so often. I would have really like to have seen Eric Foster taken in the 7th round, I feel like he would be a great special teams guy from the start and could develop into a versatile player that could be in the rotation and back up many positions. If we were really intent on going o-line we could have gone with Pedro Sosa a guy who fell because of an injury but has the talent athleticism and experience to be a good player in the league as a backup at the very least. Hopefully they both get a shot in the league with someone as free agents.

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                  • Here's what I really wonder about the Jets -

                    The heavy talk was that they were prepared to jump ahead of 26 for Joe Flacco (which is why the Ravens felt a need to move up). I find all of this mildly perplexing, if it's true (and a couple places have suggested it was).

                    Short of it is, if this is true, I wonder what the original plan the Jets had was. HAd they moved up for Flacco, that would've either removed a future pick (and the 2nd) or removed another pick. And is this to suggest that they've soured more on Clemens than people realize, and that perhaps Chad Pennington, who I had largely written off, is going to get a very good chance to be the starter?

                    That said, maybe this was just a smokescreen they put out. But if it's true, it has me perplexed.

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                    • Originally posted by The Great Jonathan Vilma View Post
                      you don't need to keep with the 'sorry for having an opinion' crap. No one is bashing you for saying something different, but rather having a realistic discussion.

                      Actually somebody was bashing us for only reading Scott's blurbs and saying we don't know enough to have an opinion.
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                      • Originally posted by toonsterwu View Post
                        Here's what I really wonder about the Jets -

                        The heavy talk was that they were prepared to jump ahead of 26 for Joe Flacco (which is why the Ravens felt a need to move up). I find all of this mildly perplexing, if it's true (and a couple places have suggested it was).

                        Short of it is, if this is true, I wonder what the original plan the Jets had was. HAd they moved up for Flacco, that would've either removed a future pick (and the 2nd) or removed another pick. And is this to suggest that they've soured more on Clemens than people realize, and that perhaps Chad Pennington, who I had largely written off, is going to get a very good chance to be the starter?

                        That said, maybe this was just a smokescreen they put out. But if it's true, it has me perplexed.
                        Toonster, we never know. Because 2 years we didn't know until after the draft that we were trying to trade up for Leinart. I think we will never know what the hell goes on inside that war room. For all we know the Jets could've had Dorsey number 1 on there board. As for Chad, I think he is listed as the starter. He is the veteran of this team and he is a great leader. While I may hate the arm he has, Chad is really a great leader and one day, this guy is going to be one hell of a coach and you can hold me to that. He is a brilliant guy. But, I think Erik Ainge was brought in for 2 reasons, his value and competition. I think that they may try to turn him into a starter for the future, but he is definately seen as a guy that can push Kellen Clemens and Chad Pennington. I think the verdict is out with that stuff. We will hav eto wait and see for what happens.

                        As a personal fan. I love changes in the locker room. I think Ainge has a solid arm and I think he is a worker. He makes a lot of mistakes at times, but I think there is potential. As for Kellen, don't count him out. He was playing QB with no one and now he can be protected. I think your going to see a different game-style with the Jets. A lot more San Diego Like offense. I am excited.


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                        • Originally posted by jmess15 View Post
                          Actually somebody was bashing us for only reading Scott's blurbs and saying we don't know enough to have an opinion.
                          well, to have an actually educated discussion and generated opinion you should have more information than one person, and do more than just restating what someone else has already said. Besides that though, you can obviously ignore an ignorant comment like that and take it for what it is. But the 3 or so posts that sound like crying aren't really needed to get your point across.

                          Now comes the interesting part about seeing the contracts that the players will get. Hopefully we get guys to camp sooner than we did Revis last year. And what happens with the Baker situation will be interesting to follow. My guess is that he just attends camp to avoid losing his job


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                          • Is there any chance Baker leaves? Keller isn't really a TE so if Baker leaves we're only left with Franks. If we were able to get a DL or CB for Baker I wouldn't be too upset. I
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                            • I dont even know who would want Baker. He is a solid guy, but who would trade a CB of equal value? If anyone has any ideas please spit em out.


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                              • Check this out,

                                Also, I spoke with Ohio State coach Jim Tressel this morning regarding the "takes some plays/games off" charge against Vernon Gholston, the Jets first-round pick. There will be more in tomorrow's paper, but one thing Tressel stressed several times was Gholston's sack and tackle numbers fluctuated for a reason: his role in Ohio State's 4-3 defensive scheme wasn't strictly as a pass rusher or a run stopper.

                                "When you're a D-end who is sometimes a drop guy, there are going to be times where you're not going forward," said Tressel, who later said he didn't see any issues for Gholston becoming an outside linebacker in the Jets 3-4 defense. "There are times where you'll be in the scuffle and sometimes when you're out in your zone."

                                Tressel is also familiar with Purdue's Dustin Keller, who, after a trade, turned out to be the Jets second pick of the first round. Ohio State beat Purdue, 23-7, with the nation's top-rated defense having an easy night...with one exception.

                                "If you watched our game against them last year, we played well defensively, but the one thing we didn’t have an answer for was Dustin Keller," Tressel said of the tight end, who finished the game with seven receptions for 101 yards. "We stopped everything and everyone else but him."
                                http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/blog/

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