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  • Originally posted by TimDris View Post
    I guess an experienced 6'2'' 320 lbs defensive tackle is never a bad thing. Especially when he is just adding depth behind a pro-bowler. Looks like if we go DL in the draft it will be a DE. No sense in having 3 NTs
    u mean 4? cuz we have three now. Jenkins, Green and Phouha

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    • Yeah I meant having 4 is too many, 3 isn't bad. Hopefully Green will put some pressure on Pouha, and at the same time keep Jenkins fresh.
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      • Mock Draft Attempt/Suggestion

        Okay I think I'm going to make a 2009/2010 predicted roster tomorrow. Until then I was wondering if I could have a little help with a Jets mock draft. I'm having a lot of trouble with rounds 2-4.

        Round 1 - Jeremy Maclin WR Mizzou
        If he falls to us, it'd be a dream come true. We need a #1 receiver and Maclin could really give us a great deep threat. We could end up going DHB or Nicks if Maclin is taken. Tyson Jackson and Mark Sanchez are also possibilities here.

        Round 2, Round 3, Round 4
        Okay, I've pretty much narrowed down these 3 rounds to the following 3 positions (in no particular order): Power Running Back, Blocking Tight End, & Defensive End. Here's my list of guys who will be available in rounds 2-4 and fit the player type we are looking for.

        Running Back:
        Donald Brown UConn - would require us to trade up to early round 2 so i doubt we'll get him
        Andre Brown NC St. - this could be our round 2/3 pick. runs downhill with a lot of power
        Rashad Jennings Liberty - he'll be around in round 3/4. big body who punishes defenders. he'd be perfect.
        Mike Goodson & James Davis - will be around in round 4. not really power backs but they wouldn't be bad options.

        Tight End:
        Cornelius Ingram - projected to go in round 3. he's the only TE out of the "top" rated guys who I could see us taking because he actually knows how to block.
        Cameron Morrah - round 4 guy. Not really a pure blocker but he fits who we are looking for.
        Ryan Purvis & Anthony Hill - likely to go in round 5-6, but we could reach for them in round 4 if we feel a blocking TE is that much of a need.

        Defensive End:
        Fili Moala - round 2. perfect fit for us.
        Michael Johnson - not really our type of player, but you never know. could go anywhere in rd 2-3
        Jarron Gilbert - could see him slipping into round 2 but could also be there in rd 3. great fit.
        Mitch King & Alex Magee - definitely intriguing options in round 3 or 4
        Kyle Morris - a round 4 guy. he'd need to put on weight to play in the 3-4
        Corvey Irvin & Vance Walker - reaches in round 4.

        2. Fili Moala
        3. Rashad Jennings/Andre Brown
        4. Camaron Morrah
        *This is what I hope happens. What do you guys think

        Round 6 - Domonique Johnson CB/S Jackson St.
        He'd be a great pick for us here due to his great athleticism and the versatility he'd bring to our defense. We lost Poteat, and we may lose Elam so we need to add another guy to our secondary.

        Round 7 - Stryker Sulak OLB Mizzou
        Has great size and would add some depth to our outside linebackers, which we could definitely use.


        If you guys could just give me a little help with this, I can start working on my roster.
        Last edited by TimD; 03-13-2009, 02:04 AM.
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        • Guys I'd add to the mix are Sammie Lee Hill (DE/NT), John Phillips and Richard Quinn I believe (TE's from UVA and UNC) and I'd contemplate some OL in there as well. Maybe Frantz Joseph for ILB depth late, too.

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          • Originally posted by derza222 View Post
            Guys I'd add to the mix are Sammie Lee Hill (DE/NT), John Phillips and Richard Quinn I believe (TE's from UVA and UNC) and I'd contemplate some OL in there as well. Maybe Frantz Joseph for ILB depth late, too.
            I am definitely a proponent of OL depth. You can never have too many. D'Brick and Mangold will be coming up to contract years soon and Woody and Faneca are 31 and 32 respectively.
            J. MESS

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            • Just so you know, Donald Brown isn't a power back and Michael Johnson is too small to play DE in the 3-4.

              And I haven't studied a whole lot of the linemen yet, but we definitely need depth. Really, we could use a significant upgrade over Woody. Judging by the type of game we're looking to play, I'd focus mostly on the maulers, though if we go for someone late they're generally projects so they might just be the athletic freaks. But I expect our second day of the draft to be littered with depth for both lines.
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              • Originally posted by thetedginnshow View Post
                Just so you know, Donald Brown isn't a power back and Michael Johnson is too small to play DE in the 3-4.
                Michael Johnson would be a situational OLB pass rusher in our defense if we drafted him

                Originally posted by TimDris
                Jarron Gilbert - could see him slipping into round 2 but could also be there in rd 3. great fit.
                i really like this kid, he's gonna be a good NFL player. i doubt he falls to us in the second round but if he does, i believe we really need to take him

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                • Not sure if I want to go this route (actually I do not) but the Akron Beacon Journal says Derek Anderson can be had for an early day two pick. Anderson seems to up and down for me, but not sure how T-Rex feels. One scenario I can think of is trading down in Round one a few spots (if Sanchez , DHB or whoever we are targeting is gone) and picking up and extra 3, then trading the 3 for Anderson.
                  J. MESS

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                  • Strictly a rumor right now, but a poster on the Cardinals official forum who says he works for a Software firm that somehow related to the Jets say that the Broncos, Jets and Cardinals are in talks for a 3 way trade

                    http://forums.azcardinals.com/showthread.php?t=41216

                    Cardinals get: Leon Washington & the Broncos 2nd
                    Jets get: Jay Cutler
                    Broncos get: Matt Leinart and the Jets 1st

                    I'd love this for the Cardinals, just what everyone else thought.

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                    • I like Cutler but Im not giving up our most explosive player. Leon is going to be a big part of our offense and is a fan favorite. No way we trade him

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                      • Originally posted by GET LOOSE View Post
                        I like Cutler but Im not giving up our most explosive player. Leon is going to be a big part of our offense and is a fan favorite. No way we trade him
                        The post is barely a rumor at this point as someone who works near the Jets facility and does business with them is the source, but for arguments sake here goes...No one wants to trade Leon, but for a 4th year franchise QB? I would have to consider it. Unless the Jets are really planning on expanding his role this year over the 12 or so touches a game (including kicks) at first glance I have to say I would lean towards doing it. We would still be very weak at WR for now, and who knows where we would be cap wise but we shouldnt dismiss it.
                        J. MESS

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                        • Originally posted by fenikz View Post
                          Strictly a rumor right now, but a poster on the Cardinals official forum who says he works for a Software firm that somehow related to the Jets say that the Broncos, Jets and Cardinals are in talks for a 3 way trade

                          http://forums.azcardinals.com/showthread.php?t=41216

                          Cardinals get: Leon Washington & the Broncos 2nd
                          Jets get: Jay Cutler
                          Broncos get: Matt Leinart and the Jets 1st

                          I'd love this for the Cardinals, just what everyone else thought.
                          I'd look at that and go "ruh roh". The Jets don't have the pieces in place for Jay Cutler to have a season in New York that he just did in Denver. And to take Leon Washington off the team would make that worse. If the Jets went ahead and did that deal, you'd see Jay Cutler handing the ball off to Thomas Jones and throwing nothing but short passes and interceptions despite having one of the best arms in the NFL.

                          Denver's wide receivers were Brandon Marshall, Eddie Royal, Brandon Stoakley.

                          New York's wide receivers are Jerricho Cotchery, Chansi Stuckey and Brad Smith.

                          In Denver, Cotchery would be the #3 guy and Stuckey and Smith would be on the bottom of the depth chart.

                          Denver has the receiving options in place to make best use of Jay Cutler. The Jets don't. They just don't.

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                          • Originally posted by Crickett View Post

                            Denver's wide receivers were Brandon Marshall, Eddie Royal, Brandon Stoakley.

                            New York's wide receivers are Jerricho Cotchery, Chansi Stuckey and Brad Smith.

                            In Denver, Cotchery would be the #3 guy and Stuckey and Smith would be on the bottom of the depth chart.

                            Denver has the receiving options in place to make best use of Jay Cutler. The Jets don't. They just don't.

                            I agree 100%. but with two coments..How do we know how good the Denver WR corps would be without Cutler? And secondly this is a trade you make for the next 10 years, not next year. yes we have a below average WR group at this point, but for a year or two you build on it and make it a strength.

                            I guess the thing I am struggling with is what is easier to find and more important? A franchise QB or a All Pro Running back (I saw RB, but we know he is not a true RB at this point). I've been a Jets fan for almost 30 years and we haven't had a franchise QB that whole time!
                            J. MESS

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                            • I just don't think Cutler fits in well with us right now both with personnel and his personality. On the field he's an incredibly talented player but I wonder about his presence. If he's so great, why are the Broncos trading him?? That's the biggest thing that makes me hesitate. Not like there's another legit option on their roster right now.

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                              • If we didn't have as much confidence in Ratliff as it sounded like we did, then I'd like for us to pull the string. As much as I love Leon, a franchise QB is far more important than explosive but non-franchise RB. I love Cutler though so I may be biased, but I also don't really believe there to be any issues with Cutler as far as his teammates go, and he didn't have any troubles at all with his old coaching staff. His only real gripes that I heard of were with the Chargers, and honestly if he could stir up the rivalry between us and the Pats/Fins I'd be all for it.

                                Of course, doesn't it seem like the Cards aren't giving a lot there? And why did the Jets guy post on the Cards forum? Or did I read that wrong? But in any case, the Cards are only giving up their unproven QB and get a Pro Bowler and a 2nd, but the Broncos have to give up their 2nd to get a 1st and that unproven QB? That doesn't all seem to equate in my mind, but it's probably not true anyway. That'd certainly be interesting though. If it was true, I wouldn't expect it to happen until draft day, unless we absolutely had no interest in Sanchez.
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