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  • I hope we keep Faneca for at least another year. He has been looking a little older as of late, but he is still better than the majority of the guards in the league. If this report is true and we are looking to trade/waive those 3 players than I wouldn't like it. We would be messing with our team too much, when we just came off of an AFC Championship run. It's one thing to not want to be complacent by bringing in risky, hungry players but its another to break up a good thing that we have going.

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    • Originally posted by Crickett View Post
      The Jets o-line is one of the team's strengths and they should not be fiddling with it.
      Agree..don't forget what happened when we traded Kendal
      J. MESS

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      • Peter King has Jahvid Best going to us in his mock. If it happens, massive props to TTGs who has been calling this for awhile. The more I think about it the more it makes some sense at least given the offense needs more help than the defense. Certainly would be a sexy pick, though I'm not a big first round RB guy. They have been preaching BPA quite a bit too...and something like that would have to signal a LW trade.

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        • I wouldn't be suprised at all if McCourty is the pick. Adam Schien metioned his name a few times today. I would love it. He's physical and he can tackle. He just seems like a Rex Ryan type of guy.

          As for Best, I could see it happening but that means we are saying goodbye to Leon.

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          • Originally posted by Hurricanes25 View Post
            I wouldn't be suprised at all if McCourty is the pick. Adam Schien metioned his name a few times today. I would love it. He's physical and he can tackle. He just seems like a Rex Ryan type of guy.

            As for Best, I could see it happening but that means we are saying goodbye to Leon.
            I am reading a lot about McCourty and a lot about Nate Allen. We supposedly had a private interview with Nate Allen. I would love Allen but not until the second round because his value wouldn't be high enough at 29, but love the idea of having him and Jim Leonhard in the secondary. The only thing is Rex wants a guy he can drop in the box to lay vicious hits, which would lead me to believe Taylor Mays but that seems a little far fetched.


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            • Originally posted by derza222 View Post
              Peter King has Jahvid Best going to us in his mock. If it happens, massive props to TTGs who has been calling this for awhile. The more I think about it the more it makes some sense at least given the offense needs more help than the defense. Certainly would be a sexy pick, though I'm not a big first round RB guy. They have been preaching BPA quite a bit too...and something like that would have to signal a LW trade.
              If Jahvid (the Jet) Best ends up with you guys, take it and run. It will seriously be a match made in heaven - almost too good to be true actually. This dude is not close to fulfilling his potential and the holes that your o-linemen create are twice as large as what he saw in college. He was a human highlight reel with 9 to 10 guys in the box. Teamed up with Sanchise, it would be a powerful combo for many years. Don't think Reggie Bush, think Desean Jackson.

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              • Originally posted by mellojello View Post
                If Jahvid (the Jet) Best ends up with you guys, take it and run. It will seriously be a match made in heaven - almost too good to be true actually. This dude is not close to fulfilling his potential and the holes that your o-linemen create are twice as large as what he saw in college. He was a human highlight reel with 9 to 10 guys in the box. Teamed up with Sanchise, it would be a powerful combo for many years. Don't think Reggie Bush, think Desean Jackson.
                Well on top of that a backfield of Best and Greene would be ridiculous, two incredibly talented runners who complement each other really, really well. From what I've watched of Best he does a great job of breaking tackles for somebody his size, mostly because he's able to get such great angles on defenders that the tackles aren't that forceful to begin with. His ability to find holes, cut and get upfield would also be a really great fit for the blocking system we run, and he'd add an explosive element to the run game and the offense in general. I think he fits the team really well, it's just the fact that there's not much of a need there and he's a first round RB which I've never loved. It'd make sense though and I could see it happening.

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                • Originally posted by derza222 View Post
                  Well on top of that a backfield of Best and Greene would be ridiculous, two incredibly talented runners who complement each other really, really well. From what I've watched of Best he does a great job of breaking tackles for somebody his size, mostly because he's able to get such great angles on defenders that the tackles aren't that forceful to begin with. His ability to find holes, cut and get upfield would also be a really great fit for the blocking system we run, and he'd add an explosive element to the run game and the offense in general. I think he fits the team really well, it's just the fact that there's not much of a need there and he's a first round RB which I've never loved. It'd make sense though and I could see it happening.
                  Derza hit the nail on the head with this one. He would be a great fit for the Green its just its not a pressing need. While we haven't seen Shonn Greene carry the load by himself (praying not another LaMont Jordan who shat an egg in Oakland), he shows the ability to do it. Best would be a scary guy to have going every other carry with Shonn Greene and we'd run some intense sets with 2 rbs in the backfield. Even with this said, I can see us trying to go after McCluster because a lot of people who have stronger knowledge on what moves the Jets are going to make have us taking him in the second round. It would be great to take best, but I would rather make a sickly defensive line/OLB/Safety since that is the strongest need currently. But all I am going to say is that if we get Jahvid Best, we are talking about 2 RB's that will crack over 1000 yards easily.


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                  • The thing that has me on the RB bandwagon at least for now is that I think Rex is cocky enough to pass on the defense early. Use later picks and UDFA's who he thinks fit what he wants to plug those holes and improve depth and talent. Defensively the attitude still seems to be "We have the #1 defense in the league" so if they really like an offensive guy that seems to be the spot on the team that's weakest and maybe they pull the trigger. Possible that that Faneca/Thomas/Ellis stuff was a smokescreen to throw off other teams and they're planning on going in a different direction. Offensively OL value won't match up with need, I don't buy WR or TE, and QB is obviously not an issue. A stable of backs is necessary in the ground and pound - Greene gets dinged up, LW is coming off an injury, LDT is old, Chauncey Washington is entirely unproven. I doubt it happens but if they like Best (and he was ridiculous pre-injury and seems to have a great running style for the blocking scheme) it definitely makes sense on some level and I think it all comes back to Rex believing he can find guys later to fit the system because it's quite clear that there are depth and talent issues on that side of the ball.

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                    • Originally posted by derza222 View Post
                      seems to have a great running style for the blocking scheme
                      Honestly, a drone could rush for 1,000 yards behind that OL. There are a number of servicable RB's in this draft, but Jahvid brings an explosiveness that is rare and watching the Jets last year, I am 100% confident he'd have a field day in that offense. He's so good in traffic and all he needs is the smallest crack and he's giving defensive coordinators a major headache. Behind your OL, there's very little contact for the RB's for the first 3/4 yards. If Jahvid can get to the LB, he can make great things happen that other players cannot. And, Jahvid is no dummy, he's not going shoulder to shoulder with Ray Lewis (the angles you were talking about). He's a very good, natural receiver too.

                      On a side note, I have this feeling that Pete Carroll is also targeting Jahvid Best. Pete generally had very balanced defenses at USC, meaning that he didn't often overplay the run or pass. The guys he had out there were expected to do their jobs and he won many games by just wearing out opponents. I've never seen him overload the box like he did against Cal last year. It was really completely obsurd how many guys he'd have in the box on so many plays just to bottle up Jahvid - to me, that was an ultimate sign of respect for Jahvid's game and totally disrespectful of the passing game, but hats off to Pete for winning that chess match. He sort of did the same thing Jahvid's sophmore year, not nearly to the same degree, but every play, Jahvid at a minimum had a shadow. Scouts may be overlooking Jahvid, but I highly doubt Pete is.

                      Bottom line: RB's are a dime a dozen, but he's got qualities you aren't going to find very often. He's better than every RB from last year and every bit as good, if not better than Spiller. Unless he goes to Oakland, you'll see what I mean...
                      Last edited by mellojello; 04-22-2010, 02:27 AM.

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                      • What I really meant by his running style fitting the scheme is that his vision and ability to make a cut and go remind me of Greene coming out last year. Greene was obviously a much stronger runner and not nearly as explosive, but make best a little slower and watch what he does as he's getting up to the LOS and they look relatively similar (at least to me). Anyway, that's plenty of speculation based on a mock and TTGS's gut feelings for now.

                        So it's looking like some likely possibilities include: Odrick, Hughes, McCourty, Cody, Best, Alualu, Joseph, Allen, and Mays. Some other guys like Kindle, Iupati, and Earl Thomas I left out because they seem unlikely to drop. Who else would you guys throw out as possible first round selections?

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                        • So I just read Kipers last mock (and while a lot of people hate on him, he is pretty good at his job) he has us taking Linval Joseph out of ECU. Anyone know anything on this dude?


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                          • I'd check out Scott's scouting report and what TTGS wrote in this thread:

                            http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40746

                            To keep it brief, Joseph is a huge guy and a very good athlete for his size. Could be a really good fit at the 5-tech spot with his length and athleticism and was a solid college player. Poor man's Haloti Ngata comparison has been thrown out. Good work ethic. Did play on a great ECU DL so that may have helped him. Late riser mostly because nobody expected him to come out so they didn't watch much tape on him, but people have come away impressed after watching some.

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                            • Jets re-do Gholston's contract

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                              • I like that VG actually approached them about restructuring. Shows that he knows he hasn't deserved the kind of money he's gotten, and he's willing to work for it. Having to reach incentives to get paid and making the decision to actually restructure shows a lot about him - both his character and the fact that he wants to improve. Not that it matters to him or anyone else, but this increases my respect for him.

                                Hopefully this combined with the move to the defensive line means he'll be productive this year. Wonder how much he'll bulk up to, I bet he could get up to around 275 or 280 without a ton of difficulty but he doesn't have the frame to add a ton of wait. I'm not going to hold my breath, but maybe something positive will come of the Vernon Gholston selection eventually. I'm certainly rooting for the guy to come back and prove some people (including myself) wrong.

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