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  • #46
    Originally posted by Go_Eagles77 View Post
    No offense dude but how are you the president of his fan club when don't even know his last name? Anyway I am very high on Michael Griffin as well.
    My bad..........

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    • #47
      Originally posted by bsaza2358 View Post
      Griffin is a talented player. There is a lot of talent in this draft that can really help the Eagles. I really don't have an actual preference as to who they take at this point. I still have full trust in the Front Office.
      Dave Spadaro, ladies and gentlemen.

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      • #48
        Thanks for adding so much to the conversation, from your blatant mispelling of prospects' names to your complete and utter absence from the forum for most of the year. Your contributions are most useless...



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        • #49
          Originally posted by bsaza2358 View Post
          Thanks for adding so much to the conversation, from your blatant mispelling of prospects' names to your complete and utter absence from the forum for most of the year. Your contributions are most useless...
          hey, hey, hey

          shhh...

          don't get mad

          it's about the game

          BTW, "God Bless the Front Office" doesn't add much either,

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          • #50
            The Eagles brought back a lot of key FA's, signed a DT to replace Walker, signed Curtis to replace Stallworth, and traded for Spikes. Their needs now become a potential DE to replace Kearse or Howard in a year or two, CB to groom for the future, and S of the present/future. The end of the first round has a lot of different players, and most of them have some holes in their games. There's no stud answer to our problems at this point. The team could draft DE, DT, CB, S, or WR, and I wouldn't necessarily be surprised.



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            • #51
              I have a feeling that Griffen is a better athlete than football player. Right now i am lobbying for Leonard but i wouldn't mind if they took Griffen


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              • #52
                Jon, that is all a matter of opinion. I think Griffin is a fine football player. He gets by a lot on raw ability, but so do guys like Michael Vick. Dominant athletes need to be coached up to reach their full potential. If Griffin is the guy, the defensive coaching staff will take care of business and work with him. They have a strong history of developing solid secondary players (Michael Lewis, Lito, Sheldon, Hood, Joselio Hanson, Considine). I don't count guys who were there before Andy Reid took over as products of the current coaching staff.



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                • #53
                  With the first round pick, These are the guys in order which I hope for the most the Eagles to draft
                  1.Michael Griffin
                  2.Chris Houstan
                  3.Patrick Willis
                  4.Buster Davis
                  5.Brandon Merriwether

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by bsaza2358 View Post
                    Jon, that is all a matter of opinion. I think Griffin is a fine football player. He gets by a lot on raw ability, but so do guys like Michael Vick. Dominant athletes need to be coached up to reach their full potential. If Griffin is the guy, the defensive coaching staff will take care of business and work with him. They have a strong history of developing solid secondary players (Michael Lewis, Lito, Sheldon, Hood, Joselio Hanson, Considine). I don't count guys who were there before Andy Reid took over as products of the current coaching staff.

                    I am now hoping Chris Houstan is there, I realized that there is no way we can take a FB in round 1, and we will go Defense day 1. so i want...

                    1.Chris Houstan
                    2.Michael Griffin
                    3.Brandon Meriweather


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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by jonbrodo17 View Post
                      I am now hoping Chris Houstan is there, I realized that there is no way we can take a FB in round 1, and we will go Defense day 1. so i want...

                      1.Chris Houstan
                      2.Michael Griffin
                      3.Brandon Meriweather
                      The CB situation in this draft seems to me that the value of the cornerbacks in rounds 2,3,4, etc. is better than those in the first round. I just don't really want to go CB round one when there is so much talent at the position in later rounds. If we were to go CB round one I would prefer Marcus McCauley to Chris Houston. Houston seems like a bust to me who is overrated because of his 40 time. He's also not very good against the run which I value highly.

                      CB's I really like:
                      Fred Bennett
                      Tanard Jackson
                      Tarell Brown- No way we take him because of character issues, but a good player.
                      Johnathan Wade
                      Travarous Bain- I really like him and he would be a great 4th round pick.
                      CJ Gaddis

                      These are all players who I think could fit our system and have a lot of potential.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by cunningham06 View Post
                        The CB situation in this draft seems to me that the value of the cornerbacks in rounds 2,3,4, etc. is better than those in the first round. I just don't really want to go CB round one when there is so much talent at the position in later rounds. If we were to go CB round one I would prefer Marcus McCauley to Chris Houston. Houston seems like a bust to me who is overrated because of his 40 time. He's also not very good against the run which I value highly.

                        CB's I really like:
                        Fred Bennett
                        Tanard Jackson
                        Tarell Brown- No way we take him because of character issues, but a good player.
                        Johnathan Wade
                        Travarous Bain- I really like him and he would be a great 4th round pick.
                        CJ Gaddis

                        These are all players who I think could fit our system and have a lot of potential.
                        I would be very happy with any of those guys as well.

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                        • #57
                          Rd.1 Michael Griffin S Texas- Athletic, hard hitter, with underrated coverage ability and top notch run support ability, can compete with Considine for the starting SS spot right away.
                          http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...aelgriffin.html
                          Rd.2 Ben Patrick TE Deleware- With LJ in his contract year we may need his successor and even if the FO wants to keep him around we may have ourselves a very good 2 TE set. A great all around TE who likes to block and is a solid reciever.
                          http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...benpatrick.html
                          Rd.3 C.J. Gaddis CB Clemson- A fast and physical CB with good size who could be the dimeback for a year and if he is good enough could be the nickelback with James leaving next offseason, has a load of potential and if he doesn't work out at CB he may also move to S and could be Dawkins' replacement at FS in a few years.
                          http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...b/cjgaddis.html
                          Rd.5 Baraka Atkins DE Miami (Fl)- With one Miami DE in McDougle likely getting cut we bring in another but for a completely different role, instead of a pass rusher Atkins is a DE who is better against the run than most DEs in the draft, can be a part of the rotation who sees most of his playing time on obvious rushing situations.
                          http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...rakaatkins.html
                          Rd.6 Sam Olajubutu LB Arkansas- Very productive LB who will most likely not compete for a starting job but is very smart and could be a solid backup and STer.
                          http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...molajubutu.html
                          Rd.7 Jackie Battle RB/FB Houston- RB/FB tweener but may be the short yardage back we're looking for. Workout warrior but if teams see him as a FB he could be had in the later rounds and quite possibly the 7th.
                          http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...ckiebattle.html

                          Projected Depth Chart at start of regular season

                          OFFENSE
                          WR 80 Kevin Curtis 84 Hank Baskett 11 Jeremy Bloom
                          LT 72 William Thomas 74 Winston Justice
                          LG 79 Todd Herremans 62 Max Jean-Gilles
                          C 67 Jamaal Jackson 59 Nick Cole
                          RG 73 Shawn Andrews 71 Scott Young
                          RT 69 Jon Runyan 68 Pat McCoy
                          TE 82 L.J. Smith 85 Ben Patrick 89 Matt Schobel
                          WR 86 Reggie Brown 83 Greg Lewis 81 Jason Avant
                          QB 5 Donovan McNabb 14 A.J. Feeley 10 Kelly Holcomb
                          FB 38 Thomas Tapeh
                          RB 36 Brian Westbrook 28 Correll Buckhalter 39 Jackie Battle
                          Total-26

                          DEFENSE
                          LDE 93 Jevon Kearse 58 Trent Cole 99 Baraka Atkins
                          LDT 98 Mike Patterson 78 Brodrick Bunkley
                          RDT 94 Montae Reagor 77 LaJuan Ramsey
                          RDE 90 Darren Howard 75 Juqua Thomas
                          SLB 96 Omar Gaither 57 Chris Gocong
                          MLB 54 Jeremiah Trotter 96 Omar Gaither
                          WLB 51 Takeo Spikes 50 Matt McCoy 53 Sam Olajubutu
                          LCB 26 Lito Sheppard 21 William James 22 Joselio Hanson
                          RCB 24 Sheldon Brown 29 C.J Gaddis
                          SS 31 Michael Griffin 37 Sean Considine
                          FS 20 Brian Dawkins 27 Quintin Mikell
                          Total-24

                          SPECIALISTS
                          PK 2 David Akers
                          6 Saverio Rocca
                          KO 2 David Akers
                          H 10 Kelly Holcomb
                          PR 11 Jeremy Bloom
                          KOR 11 Jeremy Bloom
                          PC 46 Jon Dorenbos
                          KC 46 Jon Dorenbos
                          Total-3

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Go_Eagles77 View Post
                            Rd.1 Michael Griffin S Texas- Athletic, hard hitter, with underrated coverage ability and top notch run support ability, can compete with Considine for the starting SS spot right away.
                            http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...aelgriffin.html
                            Rd.2 Ben Patrick TE Deleware- With LJ in his contract year we may need his successor and even if the FO wants to keep him around we may have ourselves a very good 2 TE set. A great all around TE who likes to block and is a solid reciever.
                            http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...benpatrick.html
                            Rd.3 C.J. Gaddis CB Clemson- A fast and physical CB with good size who could be the dimeback for a year and if he is good enough could be the nickelback with James leaving next offseason, has a load of potential and if he doesn't work out at CB he may also move to S and could be Dawkins' replacement at FS in a few years.
                            http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...b/cjgaddis.html
                            Rd.5 Baraka Atkins DE Miami (Fl)- With one Miami DE in McDougle likely getting cut we bring in another but for a completely different role, instead of a pass rusher Atkins is a DE who is better against the run than most DEs in the draft, can be a part of the rotation who sees most of his playing time on obvious rushing situations.
                            http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...rakaatkins.html
                            Rd.6 Sam Olajubutu LB Arkansas- Very productive LB who will most likely not compete for a starting job but is very smart and could be a solid backup and STer.
                            http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...molajubutu.html
                            Rd.7 Jackie Battle RB/FB Houston- RB/FB tweener but may be the short yardage back we're looking for. Workout warrior but if teams see him as a FB he could be had in the later rounds and quite possibly the 7th.
                            http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...ckiebattle.html

                            Projected Depth Chart at start of regular season

                            OFFENSE
                            WR 80 Kevin Curtis 84 Hank Baskett 11 Jeremy Bloom
                            LT 72 William Thomas 74 Winston Justice
                            LG 79 Todd Herremans 62 Max Jean-Gilles
                            C 67 Jamaal Jackson 59 Nick Cole
                            RG 73 Shawn Andrews 71 Scott Young
                            RT 69 Jon Runyan 68 Pat McCoy
                            TE 82 L.J. Smith 85 Ben Patrick 89 Matt Schobel
                            WR 86 Reggie Brown 83 Greg Lewis 81 Jason Avant
                            QB 5 Donovan McNabb 14 A.J. Feeley 10 Kelly Holcomb
                            FB 38 Thomas Tapeh
                            RB 36 Brian Westbrook 28 Correll Buckhalter 39 Jackie Battle
                            Total-26

                            DEFENSE
                            LDE 93 Jevon Kearse 58 Trent Cole 99 Baraka Atkins
                            LDT 98 Mike Patterson 78 Brodrick Bunkley
                            RDT 94 Montae Reagor 77 LaJuan Ramsey
                            RDE 90 Darren Howard 75 Juqua Thomas
                            SLB 96 Omar Gaither 57 Chris Gocong
                            MLB 54 Jeremiah Trotter 96 Omar Gaither
                            WLB 51 Takeo Spikes 50 Matt McCoy 53 Sam Olajubutu
                            LCB 26 Lito Sheppard 21 William James 22 Joselio Hanson
                            RCB 24 Sheldon Brown 29 C.J Gaddis
                            SS 31 Michael Griffin 37 Sean Considine
                            FS 20 Brian Dawkins 27 Quintin Mikell
                            Total-24

                            SPECIALISTS
                            PK 2 David Akers
                            6 Saverio Rocca
                            KO 2 David Akers
                            H 10 Kelly Holcomb
                            PR 11 Jeremy Bloom
                            KOR 11 Jeremy Bloom
                            PC 46 Jon Dorenbos
                            KC 46 Jon Dorenbos
                            Total-3
                            If the draft turned out like this I would be very happy. However, I would prefer us to go MLB on day one if we go safety round one. There is a lot of good talent there, and while I do like Sam Olajubutu, I doubt he will ever be able to be a solid starter in the NFL. We need a replacement for Trotter now that Gaither is our WILL. As for replacing LJ, we could probably wait that situation out and if he really wants to leave we could replace him next year, by either picking up a FA or drafting one. We could probably take care of that situation later.

                            Nice with the Gaddis pick, I really like what he brings to the table.

                            I would be surprised if Atkins falls to our pick in the 5th round, I see him going in the 5th but chances are he will be gone by the time we pick. That being said, we would probably be better off improving our run defense by drafting a run stuffing DT because that's where I thought the problem was last season. Kearse is solid against the run and Cole is pretty good against it so I think that the place that needs help is DT.

                            I like the Battle pick.

                            As for the starting lineups, you really don't think Bunkley will start? I think that he will be given the slightest of edges in the battle to start because our FO needs to know what he's capable of. Hopefully he will prove able to start.

                            Gaither would not be that great at SLB. One thing that he has a problem with is shedding blocks, which Spikes is very capable of so I definitely see Gaither at WILL and Spikes at SAM.

                            Where's Rayburn? We will probably keep him on our active roster.

                            Other than that I agree with the depth chart. Nice job.

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                            • #59
                              After watching some highlights reels, I've come to some conclusions regarding selections the Eagles might be interested in.

                              1. I like Griffin. He's a leader, more natural at SS, but will learn FS from a similar style player, B-Dawk.

                              2. Victor Abiamiri looks like a young Strahan.

                              3. Quentin Moses is getting a bum rap. He is double-teamed on most of the footage, and Charles Johnson is reaping the benefits.

                              4. Anthony Spencer is a decent pass rusher and a great run-stopper who can get bigger. Like Johnson, he may be a second-rounder.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Green Kool Aid View Post
                                After watching some highlights reels, I've come to some conclusions regarding selections the Eagles might be interested in.

                                1. I like Griffin. He's a leader, more natural at SS, but will learn FS from a similar style player, B-Dawk.

                                2. Victor Abiamiri looks like a young Strahan.

                                3. Quentin Moses is getting a bum rap. He is double-teamed on most of the footage, and Charles Johnson is reaping the benefits.

                                4. Anthony Spencer is a decent pass rusher and a great run-stopper who can get bigger. Like Johnson, he may be a second-rounder.
                                Griffin is much more naturally a FS. He's only 195 pounds, but he is very capable of playing SS, which is where we would play him. Considine is better at FS, and just doesn't get it done in run support, so he would be better off at FS while Griffin plays SS.

                                I don't know if we really need a DE that badly at this point, we could address that next year, I think we need to address MIKE early this year because Trotter could very well be done after this season.

                                That is unless we take Waters in the third. If we did that I would like to see:

                                1. Michael Griffin
                                2. Spencer/Johnson/Abiamari(unlikely he'll be there though) or Tanard Jackson
                                3. Anthony Waters.

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