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  • http://content.usatoday.com/communit...m-guaranteed/1

    The Eagles agreed to a one-year contract extension with QB Kevin Kolb on Thursday.

    The contract runs through the 2011 season. Scout.com reported it guarantees $12.26 million to Kolb.

    A three-year veteran, Kolb was anointed as the Eagles' starter when they traded Donovan McNabb to the Redskins earlier this month.

    "When given the chance, Kevin has proven to have good command of this offense and we're looking forward to having him operate as the number one quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles," coach Andy Reid said in a statement. -- Sean Leahy
    That is more than Donovan McNabb would've made and all that money is 100% guaranteed. I think that rules out the idea that trading McNabb was really to save money.

    Also the rookies reported to mini-camps today, Sapp said he has been told he will play SLB and Keenan Clayton also said he has been told he will play SLB. Sapp played the bandit spot at Clemson which is essentially a stand up pass rushing linebacker and Clayton played a traditional SLB role at Oklahoma.

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    • Sapp could really open up some eyes as SLB.

      He plays almost like DeMarcus Ware, sort of. He has the same physical skills and body type. He could be a force as a rush OLB, and could even contribute as a rush SLB just like Orakpo did for the Redskins last year.

      Sapp + Graham coming off the strong side = money.

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      • Originally posted by Morton View Post
        Sapp could really open up some eyes as SLB.

        He plays almost like DeMarcus Ware, sort of. He has the same physical skills and body type. He could be a force as a rush OLB, and could even contribute as a rush SLB just like Orakpo did for the Redskins last year.

        Sapp + Graham coming off the strong side = money.

        I've always been a big fan of Sapp around here when people were bashing him, needless to say I was surprised he ended up anywhere but a 3-4 team. I'm not sure how it'll work out for him in a 4-3, but dude can rush the passer and is very graceful around the edge.


        If you can be creative in how you use him you should have a very good player, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being a disappointment and being traded a few years later to a 3-4 team.


        I think Keenan Clayton will end up being better for you guys, saw alot of him in the Big XII. Really great player at OU, very athletic, scheme is similiar for him so the learning curve won't be as steep. Still Sapp has alot more potential if you can put him in the right situations and he's always going to be an excellent pass-rusher.
        Last edited by LonghornsLegend; 04-29-2010, 06:48 PM.





        Originally posted by Scott Wright
        I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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        • I definitely think Sapp is a prototypical 3-4 rush OLB, but again, like Orakpo, he might open up some eyes as a 4-3 SLB.

          Hell, for all we know, maybe the Eagles are planning to move to a 3-4 defense. Might explain the 500,000 LB tweeners they picked up recently.

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          • Originally posted by Morton View Post
            I definitely think Sapp is a prototypical 3-4 rush OLB, but again, like Orakpo, he might open up some eyes as a 4-3 SLB.

            Hell, for all we know, maybe the Eagles are planning to move to a 3-4 defense. Might explain the 500,000 LB tweeners they picked up recently.
            Ummm... I promise you that is wrong.

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            • Sapp, could end up being a sitiounal pass rusher.

              Sig by Bone Krusher

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              • Originally posted by Thumper View Post
                Ummm... I promise you that is wrong.
                maybe not moving, but giving more looks of it. Its a league trend now. Eagles did try it, but it was obvious what was gonna happen. The had Cole and Gocong standing up rushing the passer.

                Sapp and Graham both are suited for the 3-4, it just helps make the defense multi-dimensional. Also Sapp would have been terrible DE, not strong enough and same with olb in the 3-4 not strong enough. He cant hold up against the run, and as for pass rush other than running by the tackle or swim/rip(rarely seen or used) move not much else.

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                • You know what I don't get, how anyone could say the Eagles the worst team in NFC East. I just don't get it. I won't go on any rants in the thread its supposed to go in because I don't really feel like arguing with someone who isn't going to agree with me. You know that lobbying is most effective when you lobby someone who is already partial to your point of view?

                  Anyways, yeah the Eagles lost McNabb but the Eagles are really high on Kolb, I'll spare you my Kolb rants, but just know that he fits the traditional west coast offense better than McNabb does and the young players almost seem to like him better. I'll just leave it at that, I have confidence that he can move the offense and lead the young players.

                  At RB the Eagles lost some name value with Westbrook, but when Shady started I think he was more effective. He wasn't as effective when he had to fill in for Westbrook mid-game but when the game plan was crafted for him he did more than Westbrook did. And the Eagles really struggled with the short yardage situations last season because they lacked a true power RB (Weaver was good though) but now they've added Mike Bell and Charles Scott to shore up the short yardage woes. And now instead of running single sets with just Leonard Weaver in short yardage situations the Eagles can now throw together short yardage packages with Weaver at FB and Scott or Bell at RB. The Eagles run game should be more effective.

                  At receiver the Eagles young players should develop even further, DeSean Jackson will be better, Jeremy Maclin's production should jump as he further adjusts to the NFL, Avant will still be Mr. consistent and now the Eagles will have a better #4 receiver in Riley Cooper who according to Jordan Raanan of CSN said that Riley Cooper looked like a defensive end, he will be a welcome upgrade over the constantly injured Kevin Curtis who played in what, 2 games last year? The Eagles receivers should be better as well.

                  The tight end situation should improve as well, Brent Celek will likely get some more looks since Kevin Kolb is at QB and they're good friends. And instead of Alex Smith as the #2 QB the Eagles will have Ingram and Harbor who are very nice receiving tight ends who will likely be good red-zone targets. They might not be great blockers, but they should provide more as a unit in terms of receiving and athleticism.

                  The offensive line believe it or not will be better. Last season the Eagles offensive line was just raped by injuries, Todd Herramens missed 5 games, Jason Peters missed 2 games, Jamaal Jackson missed 1.5, Stacy Andrews never recovered from his ACL injury completely, Shawn Andrews missed the entire season. Basically that line was running on its reserves by the middle of the season, there was actually a point against the Raiders and Cowboys where 4 starters were missing. And chemistry should be better, injuries forced players to move around and the line was never really steady and they lacked consistency, that should change this season as the players are more comfortable with each other. I think the Eagles offensive line will be better this season as long as they stay healthy.

                  Also the defensive line is going to be better, the Eagles defensive line struggled to create pressure with 4 man fronts last season, so they drafted Brandon Graham, DTN and Ricky Sapp to help bring the heat. Adding good defensive ends will help Trent Cole get more sacks and help keep offenses from attacking the secondary. The increased pass rush should also force quarterbacks to step up in the pocket and allow Bunkley and Patterson to get more sacks. The Eagles defensive line is better than it was last season.

                  The linebackers are going to be EXTREMELY better than last season. Stewart Bradley is coming back and he is the Eagles best linebacker. Also the Eagles linebackers really struggled in pass coverage and overall they were just below average all season, now the Eagles have Ernie Sims, Jamar Chaney, Keenan Clayton and Alex Hall added to the stable to help up the performance of linebackers. Also another big addition will be Omar Gaither coming back.

                  The safety situation is much improved, they added a good FS which should help the entire defense and they have solid depth in Demps and Jackson. Mikell should do better this season with a good FS next to him. Last season Sean Jones couldn't cover to save his life and Macho Harris was still getting adjusted to the position.

                  The only spot where I think the Eagles downgraded significantly if at all was corner. Losing Sheldon Brown wasn't a great thing for the defense but I think that the improved defensive line will help compensate for the loss of Sheldon.

                  Also the special teams will be better, they added the best special teams coordinator in the game in Bobby April and Ellis Hobbs is coming back to return kicks, Quintin Demps will get more reps and the Eagles added some good special teams players like Hank Baskett, Keenan Clayton and Alex Hall.


                  I think the only thing that might hold this team back from making the playoffs are Kevin Kolb's hiccups as he becomes a full time starter and the super hard schedule the Eagles have. If Kolb can play at a relatively high level and move the offense I don't think you will see a big drop off (if there is any) for the Eagles. The team overall is better than it was a few months ago.

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                  • I think if the Redskins finally get their act together, which is quite possible now with McNabb at the helm, than we could be in trouble. We have a rookie QB coming in and he's bound to be prone to some growing pains. Couple that with the difficulty of our division and schedule and there's a decent chance we could finish 4th in the NFC East.
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                    • Originally posted by Todd Bertuzzi View Post
                      I think if the Redskins finally get their act together, which is quite possible now with McNabb at the helm, than we could be in trouble. We have a rookie QB coming in and he's bound to be prone to some growing pains. Couple that with the difficulty of our division and schedule and there's a decent chance we could finish 4th in the NFC East.
                      Redskins aren't a threat at all, they can't protect McNabb and McNabb isn't good when he gets no protection, he gets happy feet, accuracy goes out the window, he starts feeling pressure early and he takes his eyes off the receivers. When you can't protect McNabb, McNabb isn't nearly as good. Their running game is garbage, their receivers are mediocre, their safeties suck, their corners are mediocre and their front 7 which was the strength of the team last season is going through a scheme switch and Haynesworth, their best player doesn't approve.

                      The Redskins aren't a threat.

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                      • I wish the eagles were the run away leaders of that poll, because it would be that much sweeter when they prove everyone wrong.

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                        • Thumper: the reason alot of people are down on the Eagles in 2010 is because there is alot of uncertainty at the QB position. For all we know, Kolb could really struggle in his first starting year. Of course, he could also be solid, or even great, but we just don't know.

                          If Kolb does struggle, it will be very hard not to be the #3 or #4 team in the NFC East next year. The Cowboys and the Giants are good, established teams looking to make a playoff run, and the Redskins could be alot better next year too, and have no QB issues anymore.

                          Obviously, the Eagles could surprise people and claim a division title if Kolb plays really well, but the opposite is very possible also. It all depends on how well Kolb plays.

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                          • Originally posted by Morton View Post
                            Thumper: the reason alot of people are down on the Eagles in 2010 is because there is alot of uncertainty at the QB position. For all we know, Kolb could really struggle in his first starting year. Of course, he could also be solid, or even great, but we just don't know.

                            If Kolb does struggle, it will be very hard not to be the #3 or #4 team in the NFC East next year. The Cowboys and the Giants are good, established teams looking to make a playoff run, and the Redskins could be alot better next year too, and have no QB issues anymore.

                            Obviously, the Eagles could surprise people and claim a division title if Kolb plays really well, but the opposite is very possible also.
                            Obviously, I'm just amazed at how some people are acting like the Eagles fell off the face off the earth, like McNabb and Sheldon Brown MADE this team and that without them the Eagles are doomed. That just isn't right, the team as a whole is more talented than they were last year. I'm not saying the Eagles are Dallas bound but c'mon the Eagles aren't finished.

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                            • Really here is my issues with the Eagles success this year. The middle 3 of the OL I am very leery about. As it is now its Herrimans Cole and St. Andrews
                              /Giles. I really don't expect Jackson to be ready till at least midseason unless he is way ahead of schedule. And I doubt Shawn Andrews is even in football shape let alone wanting to play to be resigned. I am not going to rag on Washington's line when ours isn't that great to begin with.

                              I have said this before and will say it again, good or bad kolb needs a pocket to throw from. His arm is OK as of strength, average at best. He will need to be able to step up and throw but if there is DT's in his face and has to throw off his back foot I see alot of lame duck passes being put up. And with the fact that Stacy has injury issues it makes me even less trusting in the line. One injury to any of those 3 and that line gets even softer. I really think its gonna be a rough year even if Kolb plays well for him due to this. We may have tons of weapons but Kolb will need time to be able to deliver the ball.

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                              • Woah woah woah, our line is FAR better than Washington's line. If anything the Eagles have the best offensive line in the division, Dallas has a mediocre LT, LG and RT and last season even though the Eagles line was banged up all season they still outperformed the Giants offensive line. the Eagles QBs were hit 67 times and the Giants QBs were hit 74 times. Eagles Qbs were sacked 38 times and Giants QBs were sacked 32 times. So the Giants QBs were hit one more time than the Eagles. The Eagles also passed more than the Giants did. Also if you look at Footballoutsider's offensive line statistics you will see that the Eagles offensive line was markedly better than the Giant's offensive line at run blocking, this is also shown by NFL.com when they point out that the Eagles runners averaged 4.3 yards per carry and the Giants averaged 4.1 (FO outlines a larger difference). The offensive lines in this division have gone downhill quick.

                                Anyways I don't get why you included Herramens in that post, there were years when he outperformed Shawn Andrews. Herramens is one of the most underrated guards in the NFL. I see the interior of the offensive line working out like this: LG: Herramens C: McGlynn RG: Cole

                                Also I think the Eagles will help Kolb by running the ball a lot more, they have 4 runners who are capable of taking a significant work load. The Eagles have the horses to run this season and one thing the Eagles offensive line has is power, they're HUGE and they're all good at run blocking. Jason Peters is the best run blocking LT in the NFL, Herramens more than holds his own, Nick Cole, Max Jean-Gilles and Stacy Andrews are all better run blockers, Winston Justice is actually a good run blocker and Fenuki Tupuo is a powerful lineman as well.

                                Also I don't understand why people question Kolb's arm strength he showed he had enough to succeed in the NFL. I hate to use one play as an example, but this is a perfect example of Kolb's arm strength, it really shows that Kolb has what it takes in terms of arm strength, it's as pretty a deep ball as you will see.


                                Kolb doesn't have a cannon for an arm but he can sling it deep just fine.
                                Last edited by Thumper; 04-30-2010, 01:17 AM.

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