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    Discuss the Eagles here.

    I'll start!

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  • #2
    Well, looks like the Eagles thread gets a fresh start, just like the Eagles after the bye week. Things I want to see in the second half:

    * A 60/40 pass/run balance. I'm not even talking short passes and screens. I want the Eagles to run the ball 40% of the time. Handoffs to BWest and Buck and Tapeh and Moats. Lots of involvement there. Make the D stop you, run the clock. It will help McNabb and the D.

    * More variation in the defensive scheme. I know that Kearse's injury really hurt the D with their "joker" formation and such. There's no reason why they can't do even more stuff using Dawkins as the "joker". What about using Michael Lewis closer to the line of scrimmage?

    * Improvements at key areas. Matt McCoy and the Lewis/Considine SS spot need to be better. Dhani Jones has been solid, and I can't ask for more from him. Teams run right at McCoy, and he has performed poorly. He doesn't shed well enough. I'd rather have Barber out there if McCoy isn't going to perform better.

    * Fewer super deep balls and more 10-20 yard routes. Teams respect our deep passing game, so the middle of the field should be open for all of the weapons. Run one man deep, then work the middle of the field more. We did that early in the season, but I haven't seen enough of it in the past 3 games.

    * Play a full 60 minutes. This team can be dominant and has dominated halves and 3/4 of a game. The 4th quarter has been pretty piss poor. The team needs to start fast, beat down an opponent, then close out the game. This team could be 7-1 right now if they could close out.



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    • #3
      Originally posted by bsaza2358
      Well, looks like the Eagles thread gets a fresh start, just like the Eagles after the bye week. Things I want to see in the second half:

      * A 60/40 pass/run balance. I'm not even talking short passes and screens. I want the Eagles to run the ball 40% of the time. Handoffs to BWest and Buck and Tapeh and Moats. Lots of involvement there. Make the D stop you, run the clock. It will help McNabb and the D.

      * More variation in the defensive scheme. I know that Kearse's injury really hurt the D with their "joker" formation and such. There's no reason why they can't do even more stuff using Dawkins as the "joker". What about using Michael Lewis closer to the line of scrimmage?

      * Improvements at key areas. Matt McCoy and the Lewis/Considine SS spot need to be better. Dhani Jones has been solid, and I can't ask for more from him. Teams run right at McCoy, and he has performed poorly. He doesn't shed well enough. I'd rather have Barber out there if McCoy isn't going to perform better.

      * Fewer super deep balls and more 10-20 yard routes. Teams respect our deep passing game, so the middle of the field should be open for all of the weapons. Run one man deep, then work the middle of the field more. We did that early in the season, but I haven't seen enough of it in the past 3 games.

      * Play a full 60 minutes. This team can be dominant and has dominated halves and 3/4 of a game. The 4th quarter has been pretty piss poor. The team needs to start fast, beat down an opponent, then close out the game. This team could be 7-1 right now if they could close out.
      Most over-rated secondary in the NFL. Lucky if they beat the Deadskins for 3rd place.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by robert_rodriguez_nyc
        Most over-rated secondary in the NFL. Lucky if they beat the Deadskins for 3rd place.
        You know, that is the most amazing analysis I have ever read. Your facts, details, and information were astounding!

        If you're going to make this kind of statement, you'd better back it up with some sort of data. Fact is, the secondary has been dinged (Sheppard and Hood), and Michael Lewis has not played well. No one is saying they're the best in the NFL, but there is a lot of talent there between the CB's and Dawkins. If Considine can prove himself at SS, there is no overrating being done. A lot of the success has to do with the pass rush. Without Kearse, the Eagles aren't as good. Period.

        I await your ill-informed, opinionated response...



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        • #5
          woo 2nd eagles fan to post haha...bsaza seems like me and you the only eagles fans posting lately

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bsaza2358
            Well, looks like the Eagles thread gets a fresh start, just like the Eagles after the bye week. Things I want to see in the second half:

            * A 60/40 pass/run balance. I'm not even talking short passes and screens. I want the Eagles to run the ball 40% of the time. Handoffs to BWest and Buck and Tapeh and Moats. Lots of involvement there. Make the D stop you, run the clock. It will help McNabb and the D.

            * More variation in the defensive scheme. I know that Kearse's injury really hurt the D with their "joker" formation and such. There's no reason why they can't do even more stuff using Dawkins as the "joker". What about using Michael Lewis closer to the line of scrimmage?

            * Improvements at key areas. Matt McCoy and the Lewis/Considine SS spot need to be better. Dhani Jones has been solid, and I can't ask for more from him. Teams run right at McCoy, and he has performed poorly. He doesn't shed well enough. I'd rather have Barber out there if McCoy isn't going to perform better.

            * Fewer super deep balls and more 10-20 yard routes. Teams respect our deep passing game, so the middle of the field should be open for all of the weapons. Run one man deep, then work the middle of the field more. We did that early in the season, but I haven't seen enough of it in the past 3 games.

            * Play a full 60 minutes. This team can be dominant and has dominated halves and 3/4 of a game. The 4th quarter has been pretty piss poor. The team needs to start fast, beat down an opponent, then close out the game. This team could be 7-1 right now if they could close out.
            i agree with everything you say, except one thing...i have heard considine is playing well other then that i agree with everything

            i just saw some thing on espn were they asked salisbury and schlerth about the eagles in or out of the playoffs...both said out and said that the eagles are a one dimensional team, easy to stop since they cant run and cant stop the run. plus they said the only thing we got goin for us is mcnabb

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            • #7
              I saw that piece this morning, and they were right. The team has to recommit to the run to prove these pundits wrong. McNabb's success through the air will allow us to run more. Run and control clock to keep the other teams off the field. The Eagles don't necessarily need a "big back" to get this done because the OLine is so huge, they can just road-grade and get it done. Pound the crap out of the opposing teams with Buck and Tapeh, then hit them with Westbrook. All of this will set up the screen and deep ball game.

              As for Considine, he is a part time player. The SS position as a whole has to be better.



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              • #8
                so bsaza, what would you like to see the eagles do for FA/Draft this offseason after half the season has gone by

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                • #9
                  bsaza, did you make the trade?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bigbluedefense
                    bsaza, did you make the trade?
                    My trade partner proposed a counter on less attractive terms, which I rejected. I will do this deal right now because I have a side deal in place to immediately deal TO and McNair for Chad Pennington (16th round keeper) and Santana Moss (8th round keeper). It will reinvigorate my entire keeper roster and leave me with a damn solid team.



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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mpt117
                      so bsaza, what would you like to see the eagles do for FA/Draft this offseason after half the season has gone by
                      In FA, we are going to lose some players. That always happens, of course, but there will be some very significant turnover. I think William Thomas is a goner, and Buck probably won't be back. On D, Michael Lewis, Dhani Jones, Rod Hood, and perhaps Darwin Walker will head out the door. These guys will have to be replaced in some way. Thomas' slot will go immediately to Justice, and there are always RB's out there to be had. I assume the Eagles will draft one. In terms of FA targets, they might have to go after Lance Briggs on principle, though Gocong and Gaither are there to make an impact.

                      In terms of the draft, I see the Eagles going safety or CB in the first round. Second round, expect to see a line pick, probably OLine. Later in the draft, I would expect another CB, perhaps a developmental TE project, and a bigger RB to replace Buck. The Eagles really can sit back and draft for the future. They don't really have immediate needs that can't be filled by current players.



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                      • #12
                        Lito Sheppard has been much better than I expected this year. He got burned a lot last year but he's been lockdown, opposed to Sheldon.

                        Thanks to jkpigskin

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                        • #13
                          Brain Dawkins has got to be one of the best hard hitting saftys in the league.


                          Thanks to jackalope

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                          • #14
                            ...No kidding.

                            Thanks to jkpigskin

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bsaza2358
                              Originally posted by mpt117
                              so bsaza, what would you like to see the eagles do for FA/Draft this offseason after half the season has gone by
                              In FA, we are going to lose some players. That always happens, of course, but there will be some very significant turnover. I think William Thomas is a goner, and Buck probably won't be back. On D, Michael Lewis, Dhani Jones, Rod Hood, and perhaps Darwin Walker will head out the door. These guys will have to be replaced in some way. Thomas' slot will go immediately to Justice, and there are always RB's out there to be had. I assume the Eagles will draft one. In terms of FA targets, they might have to go after Lance Briggs on principle, though Gocong and Gaither are there to make an impact.

                              In terms of the draft, I see the Eagles going safety or CB in the first round. Second round, expect to see a line pick, probably OLine. Later in the draft, I would expect another CB, perhaps a developmental TE project, and a bigger RB to replace Buck. The Eagles really can sit back and draft for the future. They don't really have immediate needs that can't be filled by current players.
                              i agree that lewis and buckhalter we'll be gone, but idk bout thomas...since justice hasnt played yet i could see thomas staying next year to groom justice. and same about darwin as he is/has been one of our better DTs. plus i hear this is jones best year in an eagles uniform

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