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  • #16
    Originally posted by cunningham06 View Post
    Oliver as far as I know is just naturally stupid.
    Most corners are

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Neo View Post
      Thats cute, to judge people without knowing the situation what so ever. There are plenty of reasons why he could have become ineligable for example he could have ended up taking classes that were too tough or got stuck with terrible professors. "well if he didnt put in his work in the classroom at school, whats to say that he would put int he work in the classroom/weight room as a professional football player?" well because he obviously has put in enough work there to be amongst the best in college football. Plus its not like corners are smart... coming out Corners/DT's/RB's historically have amongst the lowest wonderlic scores.
      Whatever his reasons, Oliver made some questionable choices. He could have gone pro after a huge win against VTech in a major bowl, but he didn't do so. After the season, he had a full semester of classes to get his stuff together, and he didn't do it. Georgia is not the most challenging institution in the country, and I'm sure he had access to all of the tutoring and resources that he needed. Fact is that he just didn't succeed. It has to go down as a negative against him. I'm sure Oliver will get drafted in the supplemental draft, but I don't foresee him being an Eagle.



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      • #18
        I dont think he'll be as stupid as Portis....but the dummy make a few bucks along the way

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        • #19
          Portis has an issue with keeping his mouth shut, but at least he could keep his grades up long enough to get to the NFL.



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          • #20
            I heard a wild rumor a while ago (my friend told me so i know its not a valid source) that Sean Taylor doesn't know his ABC's, i doubt its true but it just go's to show you that education isn't relly valued in the NFL and you can get by just knowing a playbook and how to play. I honestly don't know anything about Oliver i just thougt it would b interesting for the eagles to get a 1st/2nd round value by only giving up a 3rd or higher pick


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            • #21
              I agree, there is no way we would be willing to give up a third or better pick on a guy who has suspect intelligence and an iffy character. We would be able to find a guy that good or better in '08 draft, and there may be people that are better than him that would be available in the later rounds. Remember, the draft isn;t an exact science, so there could be a CB that goes second day next year that could go on to have better career than this Oliver guy. Maybe if I would have heard of this guy before this post was brought up, I might be more inclined to give it a try, but he would have to be really good for the Eagles to give up a second rounder on him. The LB for the Bengals (Name escapes me for the moment) was someone I recognized as a good player, and they only gave up a second for him, but since this is the first time I have heard of him, I would say no on a second or third round pick.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by eaglesalltheway View Post
                I agree, there is no way we would be willing to give up a third or better pick on a guy who has suspect intelligence and an iffy character. We would be able to find a guy that good or better in '08 draft, and there may be people that are better than him that would be available in the later rounds. Remember, the draft isn;t an exact science, so there could be a CB that goes second day next year that could go on to have better career than this Oliver guy. Maybe if I would have heard of this guy before this post was brought up, I might be more inclined to give it a try, but he would have to be really good for the Eagles to give up a second rounder on him. The LB for the Bengals (Name escapes me for the moment) was someone I recognized as a good player, and they only gave up a second for him, but since this is the first time I have heard of him, I would say no on a second or third round pick.
                Ahmad Brooks, he did well last year and is starting this year. There very possibly will be better players available later in next years draft, but you'll be hard pressed to find better prospects. His ability is on par with a late first round pick.

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                • #23
                  I think we can toss a 5th or 6th at the guy wait the 6th my be in jepordy. If the guy is dumb, doesnt mean he cant read and know the playbook.

                  If he is talented then a 5th would be good on him.

                  Or we could kind of force him to be a UDFA, by telling him look your not going to do good in school.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by bhaarat316 View Post
                    I think we can toss a 5th or 6th at the guy wait the 6th my be in jepordy. If the guy is dumb, doesnt mean he cant read and know the playbook.

                    If he is talented then a 5th would be good on him.

                    Or we could kind of force him to be a UDFA, by telling him look your not going to do good in school.
                    He is going to get at the very worst an early 3rd. So basically the only way the eagles could have a shot at him was with a second. THIS GUY IS GOOD.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by eaglesalltheway View Post
                      I agree, there is no way we would be willing to give up a third or better pick on a guy who has suspect intelligence and an iffy character. We would be able to find a guy that good or better in '08 draft, and there may be people that are better than him that would be available in the later rounds. Remember, the draft isn;t an exact science, so there could be a CB that goes second day next year that could go on to have better career than this Oliver guy. Maybe if I would have heard of this guy before this post was brought up, I might be more inclined to give it a try, but he would have to be really good for the Eagles to give up a second rounder on him. The LB for the Bengals (Name escapes me for the moment) was someone I recognized as a good player, and they only gave up a second for him, but since this is the first time I have heard of him, I would say no on a second or third round pick.
                      This is true, Eaglesalltheway knowing a guy is an assurance that he is good. "if i know him" he is good "if i dont know him" he isnt good. Guess what alot of people know who he is... now i dont think the eagles are going to get him, i mean i would maybe give it a 1/100 chance, however this guy is good and if the eagles gave up a second round pick for the dude i wouldnt be angry in the least bit.

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                      • #26
                        The problem is, we would need to give up a second to get him, but wouldn't be willing to use more than a fourth, at the very most. It is like I said before, we will not get him.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by eaglesalltheway View Post
                          The problem is, we would need to give up a second to get him, but wouldn't be willing to use more than a fourth, at the very most. It is like I said before, we will not get him.
                          You dont really know that, if the eagles have this guy very highly rated (grade of a top 10-15 pick) the eagles could very well give up a second round pick which will be around 60.

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                          • #28
                            We'll see what happens. I'm not certain that the team will give up a first day pick for Oliver. I'm pretty sure he'll go for a third rounder at worst. Given the Eagles late draft status, they wouldn't have a chance to get him if they bid a third.



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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by bsaza2358 View Post
                              We'll see what happens. I'm not certain that the team will give up a first day pick for Oliver. I'm pretty sure he'll go for a third rounder at worst. Given the Eagles late draft status, they wouldn't have a chance to get him if they bid a third.
                              Hence, they would have to give up a second, Considering the fact that it looks like Corner will be something that the team will look to draft next year. With James most likely bouncing and Barksdale being nothing more than a project. Like i said earlier i dont expect them to get oliver and would only give it a 1/100 chance, however it would make sense logically.

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                              • #30
                                If the team thinks he is a great prospect and one who would be an excellent value, I see nothing wrong with taking him with a second rounder. James is on his last year, Sheldon and Lito are signed through 2010 or 2011, and after them, the Eagles have Barksdale and Joselio Hansen. CB wouldn't be the worst thing to draft for, but is it a worthy investment of a second rounder? Very hard to say.



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