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  • Final Pre-Season Mock 43/34

    I'm doing this under the assumption that...

    1) Max Starks and Trai Essex leave.
    2) We Re-Sign Chris Kemoeatu and Kendall Simmons
    3) We're going to run a Tomlin2/3-4 Hybrid.

    With that Said, I believe..

    Woodley ~ Hampton ~ Keisel ~ ? Will be our front 4.
    A Smith ~ Hokie ~ McBean ~ ?

    Farrior ~ J. Harrison ~ Timmons Will be our LB's

    Ike ~ Troy ~ A-Train ~ B Mac will be our DB's.


    Now My opinion of needs:

    WDE/WOLB (Obviously)
    LT & RT
    CB
    DL Depth



    With that Said:


    1) Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB, OSU

    He is the perfect Passrusher for either the Tomlin2 or 3-4. With his ability to play either we can seamlessly change our lineup.

    2) Tony Hills, LT, Texas

    We need a future LT and Hills falls to us. He's got elite athleticism and Great Strength/speed. A year behind Marvel and he'll take over.

    3) Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State

    He drops because the LOC. He's got talent written all over him. 6'2 190lbs runs in the 4.3's. Great tackler who has a nose for the football. Definition of shutdown on his level. Should play ST and contribute as a Nickel or Dime his first season.

    4) Tavares Gooden, ILB/OLB, Miami

    Train him Behind James Harrison as our future MLB in the Tomlin2/34 Hybrid. Has rare speed. But he's got amazing athleticism, needs to add some weight, but he can rush the passer and play mean run stopper.

    5) Andy Studebaker, WLB, Wheaton

    Here's another versatile guy. He Plays DE at Wheaton, but he's a great coverage guy, plays OLB Some. He's got a 4.55 40, at 6'3 255lbs. Knows how to blitz and cover from the OLB spot. Could play some DE/OLB

    6) Titus Brown, DE/OLB, Mississippi State

    Again, Versatility. Titus is a dominant guy in the mold of Adalius Thomas just a bit slower. 6'3 265lbs 4.65 40. He is a beast on the Weakside and can provide 3-4 or 4-3 depth.

    7) Josh Morgan, WR/KR, Virginia Tech

    Some may not see the raw power this kid possesses. While not an amazing receiver, he could be a solid #2/#3. Needs some good coaching. But he does provide power. he's 6'2 220lbs and he runs in the 4.3's. He also is probably one of the strongest WR's in the NCAA Boasting #'s such as, 326lb power clean, 330lb push-jerk, and a 39.5" Vertical. He provides instant KR/PR and gives us a powerful WR to work into the starting lineup.

    With that Said.

    UDFA Looks:
    • Jalen Parmele, RB, Toledo - 6'2 220lb bruiser.
    • Mike Tolbert, FB/RB, Coastal carolina - 5'9 240lb speedster with raw power
    • Mikey Henderson, WR/KR, Georgia - 5'8 180lb Speedster with amazing cut-back ability.
    • Derek Uperesa, RT, St. Francis (PA) - I've seen this kid 6'6 340lbs and he's quick twitch.
    • Jeremy Ito, K, Rutgers - I hate biting my nails during every field goal.
    • Craig Mester, DE/OLB, Miami(OH) - Another Versatile DE to build the 4-3/3-4
    • Trevor Scott, DE/OLB, Buffalo - Another Versatile DE to build the 4-3/3-4.
    • Kory Robertson, NT, VT - 6'3 335lb Agile Monster. Powerful PS NT.
    • James McClinton, UT, Kansas - Great interior pass rusher.
    • Ben Moffitt, ILB, SFU - Solid MLB for either Scheme
    • Wesley Woodard, SS/WLB, KU - Great Coverage and Hitter, with some weight could be a solid backup WLB.
    • Casper Brinkley, SLB, USC - Jaspers Brother.. DE with SLB abililty.
    • Charles Godfrey, CB, Iowa - Size/Speed just needs some consistancy.
    • Henti Baird, SS, Hampton - Need a Replacement for T. Carter soon and might as well get him on the PS.. Lorello ain't it.

    I don't mind the 4-3 as it's effective. But I don't want a pussyfied Indy style defense that can't stop the run.

    Give me a Steel Curtain style 4-3 that's dominant and painful against the run and against the receiver, and I'll sign up.

    With that said..

    opinions. I like a 3-4/4-3 Hybrid and designed the picks so. All the picks I made do fit into the Cover2 Methodology. Quick Dominant outside rushers with a run stopping force and a penetrating UT.
    Last edited by Mr. Stiller; 09-01-2007, 12:43 PM.

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  • #2
    done like the linebackers or the dline. I think keisel can be a 43 end and let hoke play the other dt. I think keisel could be a justin smith like de.

    Then I'd rather see foote at MLB than harrison. Plus farrior isn't a long term answer either, esspecially at olb.

    And colon will not play center. Just because they tried him there in spring training doesnt mean he has a future there. His future is likely where he is at rightnow, rt. Kemo and simmons take the guards. Mahan the center. Smith will be lt for next year so the only oline that needs drafted for is LT.

    Only think i think it good is the d backs but that is impossible to mess up

    Thanks to The Dynasty for the sig

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    • #3
      4-3 Front

      DE Kiesil, DT Hoke, DT Hampton, DE Smith

      WLB Woodley, MLB Farrior, SLB Timmons--------------Foote rotates in.

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      • #4
        I think you have Woodley and Timmons backwards.. TImmons the Will and Woodley the Sam.

        I think Keisel would make a Killer UT. A penetrator with capability to rush the passer from the interior.

        We need 2 solid pass rushers. Aaron Smith is like Justin Smith.. But he's not the pass rusher that Justin is. He's more of a hold the point, collapse the pocket/stop the run DT/34DE.

        Woodley is a poor mans Dwight Freeney and would be a beast at LDE next to Hampton.

        In the Cover2.. You need the following:

        Duo of Solid passrushing DE's. Usually a Premier (Rice/Freeney/Adams) and a solid partner (Mathis/Spires).

        A run stopping NT.. We have that.(Hampton)
        A run plugger/pass rushing interior DT. (Keisel)

        The cover2 is predicated on having the front 4 get to the passrusher. Aaron Smith is not a pass-rusher. Woodley is built perfectly for SDE.
        Hokie is a solid backup NT, but he's not a UT.


        I'm sorry you don't like the LB's or DL. But I can understand Keisel, but I think with his size/power he'd be better set at UT. Smith is not a Pass rusher. Hokie is not a UT.

        Woodley ~ Hampton ~ Keisel ~ Gholston

        J. Harrison ~ Farrior ~ Timmons

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mr. Stiller View Post
          I think you have Woodley and Timmons backwards.. TImmons the Will and Woodley the Sam.

          I think Keisel would make a Killer UT. A penetrator with capability to rush the passer from the interior.

          We need 2 solid pass rushers. Aaron Smith is like Justin Smith.. But he's not the pass rusher that Justin is. He's more of a hold the point, collapse the pocket/stop the run DT/34DE.

          Woodley is a poor mans Dwight Freeney and would be a beast at LDE next to Hampton.

          In the Cover2.. You need the following:

          Duo of Solid passrushing DE's. Usually a Premier (Rice/Freeney/Adams) and a solid partner (Mathis/Spires).

          A run stopping NT.. We have that.(Hampton)
          A run plugger/pass rushing interior DT. (Keisel)

          The cover2 is predicated on having the front 4 get to the passrusher. Aaron Smith is not a pass-rusher. Woodley is built perfectly for SDE.
          Hokie is a solid backup NT, but he's not a UT.


          I'm sorry you don't like the LB's or DL. But I can understand Keisel, but I think with his size/power he'd be better set at UT. Smith is not a Pass rusher. Hokie is not a UT.

          Woodley ~ Hampton ~ Keisel ~ Gholston

          J. Harrison ~ Farrior ~ Timmons
          So your proposing we release Foote and Smith?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Man_Of_Steel View Post
            So your proposing we release Foote and Smith?
            No. Smith Could play UT. He can penetrate and push the pocket, which would help Gholston and Woodley Immensely.

            I suggest Moving Foote to Backup Harrison at SLB. Which is why I had to draft so many LB's our's our primarily 3-4.

            Woodley ~ Hampton ~ Keisel ~ Gholston
            McBean ~ Hokie ~ Smith ~ Titus Brown


            Harrison ~ Farrior ~ Timmons
            Foote ~ Gooden ~ Studebaker
            Last edited by Mr. Stiller; 09-01-2007, 12:41 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mr. Stiller View Post
              No. Smith Could play UT. He can penetrate and push the pocket, which would help Gholston and Woodley Immensely.

              I suggest Moving Foote to Backup Harrison at SLB. Which is why I had to draft so many LB's our's our primarily 3-4.
              You have Harrison playing WLB. I think Foote would start over him. Smith is way too good to sit, you think Keisil would start in place of him?

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              • #8
                Do you by any chance have the contracts of these guys?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Man_Of_Steel View Post
                  You have Harrison playing WLB. I think Foote would start over him. Smith is way too good to sit, you think Keisil would start in place of him?
                  WLB is on the ROLB Side. Weakside is normally offense left, defense right
                  SLB is on the LOLB Side. Strongside is normally offense right, defense left.

                  I think you'd be right about Foote starting over Harrison. As for Smith. He's a great 34 DE. I agree, but he's not a pass rusher. Keisel can be a solid pass rusher, especially from the interior (Where he's practically playing in a 3-4). He had 6 sacks last season I believe, from the 3-4 DE spot. Move him to UT and thats perfect. He's powerful enough to hold the point, stop the run and has that added ability to penetrate and chase the QB. I don't see Smith as much of a pass rusher.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Man_Of_Steel View Post
                    Do you by any chance have the contracts of these guys?
                    Nope. I Know Smith was just signed to a 5 year extention.. which is Why I really don't see us going 4-3 anytime soon. In a 4-3 he's a man without a position.. and I don't want to see him go to NYJ/NE... Though SF is an option.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mr. Stiller View Post
                      WLB is on the ROLB Side. Weakside is normally offense left, defense right
                      SLB is on the LOLB Side. Strongside is normally offense right, defense left.

                      I think you'd be right about Foote starting over Harrison. As for Smith. He's a great 34 DE. I agree, but he's not a pass rusher. Keisel can be a solid pass rusher, especially from the interior (Where he's practically playing in a 3-4). He had 6 sacks last season I believe, from the 3-4 DE spot. Move him to UT and thats perfect. He's powerful enough to hold the point, stop the run and has that added ability to penetrate and chase the QB. I don't see Smith as much of a pass rusher.
                      lol you have it backwards. SLB is ROLB and WLB is LOLB.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Man_Of_Steel View Post
                        lol you have it backwards. SLB is ROLB and WLB is LOLB.
                        Doesn't the strength change? The Steelers don't really change their formations so don't they just have a ROLB and LOLB?
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFpnxVrT8Js

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by steelernation77 View Post
                          Doesn't the strength change? The Steelers don't really change their formations so don't they just have a ROLB and LOLB?
                          Stronside LB and Weakside LB has nothing to do with how the Steelers setup. It has to do with the formation of the offense. The TE is generally always on the left side of the Offense as well as the best lineman. Therefore the ROLB is the Strongside LB and the LOLB is the weakside backer.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Man_Of_Steel View Post
                            lol you have it backwards. SLB is ROLB and WLB is LOLB.
                            I'm almost certain you have it backwards.

                            either way.

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                            • #15
                              Sorry, for just jumping in here but I'm pretty sure that ROLB is the SLB and LOLB is the WLB. At least that is how it has been in football games (Madden and NCAA). I've never referred to the LB as LOLB or ROLB so that is my only reference. LOL.

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