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  • What I would do If I were the GM.

    Free Agency:

    Guys I would Look at:

    QB:
    Anthony Wright (May not be great, but has starting experience and can be a great addition if things go sour again)
    Jeff Garcia (Read above, however i failed to mention both are mobile which, is a plus in our system.)

    RB:
    LaDell Betts - Solid runner with good hands, if we don't keep Najeh this might be our short yardage guy.
    Chris Brown - Is a great short yardage back, when healthy. Would have to crunch #'s and I think he'll want too much.
    Najeh Davenport - Isn't exactly a Short yardage back, but is a good 3rd Down back. He picks up the blitz well and he's a lot greater at screens than Verron Haynes.
    Ahman Green - Hasn't been healthy and frankly will want to be a feature back..
    Musa Smith - He's an underrated runner. I think he should be the Starter in Baltimore as twinkle Toes has lost his touch and is afraid of contact. He's another Georgia Product.
    Anthony Thomas - A-train has been a #2 for 2 seasons now I believe and he's excelled. He's a more than serviceable short yardage back. He's my #1(If we don't go for it in the draft). He's only 6 years out of Michigan and we could use a vet at RB that can stay healthy.

    WR:
    Drew Bennett - Probably the prized UFA WR this offseason, Unless Porter/Moss are released. He's a #1, but he's probably going to be looking for a ring. I Don't think he's in our salary range as someone like NE, Chicago, SF, or Atlanta could make an attempt.
    Troy Brown - I would look at him long enough to realize we already have enough 6' wrs. He's good, but I think we need a different type.
    Jerry Porter - He never had a problem until Art Shell came in. He would be another guy to possibly take a gander on, because when he's on, he's a top 10 WR. Ward, Porter and Holmes would relieve Ben from the Pass Rush a bit.
    Mike Williams - If the lions look to move him, this is a guy that could be a cheap signing and since we didn't go after Charles Rogers, I would love to take an chance on this guy. He could possibly sign for the league minimum, and he was a better prospect than Dwayne Jarrett Coming out. I would love Calvin Johnson, Jarrett is more realistic, and to get a guy that was more highly touted.. You gotta give him a shot. He would give us a big possession guy. He's shown he wants to play with the limited chances he's got he's used them. However Kitna isn't as good as Ben.

    TE:
    Kyle Brady - I would look here because he's by far the best blocking TE i've seen in a long time. However, with 12 years in I can't see him not declining in play.
    Mark Breuner - The Second best blocking TE, if he were cheap enough I'd love to bring him back, but I don't think he's on the right side of 30 either.
    Daniel Graham - AHA! This guy would be perfect. He's only 6'3 so not a big target, but he's a great blocker that can recieve. As Miller is a Great Reciever that can block. He'll have leverage to his advantage and can give Danimal Kreider a break by going with a 2 TE set. (Possibly Cutting Tuman).

    OT:
    Jordan Black - He's come on strong blocking for Larry Johnson, Look at the Yards hes got. Give him a shot next to Chris Keomeatu, and that should give us a solid duo to start on the right side of the line. However I think Money could be an issue in this signing.
    Leonard Davis - He's not a good LT but he'd be a great RT. However he's going to want LT money and frankly we don't have it to give. No reason to overpay on an RT when a Draft pick could probably do it right away.

    OG:
    Vince Manuwai - A samoan, so thats 1 thing. He's an underrated Guard. If we don't feel Keomeatu is ready he could take RG, if not he'll give us incredible depth.
    Eric Steinbach - He's underrated as well, but he's been having issues with assignments in Cincy. I think he could come in for depth at RG/C but he's going to want to start.


    OC:
    Robbie Tobeck - He's been one of the quietly underrated centers in a while. Helping bolster down one of the best lines in history up in seattle. He could be the next Pro-bowl center from Pittsburgh.. if he wasn't as old as Hartings..
    Andre Gurode - This one is giving me fits. I like the guy, he's certainly athletic and he has a 1-2 punch in Dallas of Lightning and Thunder so He knows how to pull and run block for the best of them. He is also solid in pass coverage. he's only 28 years old and could potentialy give us 5-7 pro bowl years if signed.

    DE:
    Rodney Bailey - He's been great as a pass rusher and giving Aaron Smith a breather, but he's not spectacular. I wish we could upgrade him and we probably could. I think he should be signed back unless Shaun Nua or Orien Harris prove their Ready.
    Cory Redding - He's amazing. He's 6'4 and 290 lbs. He could Give us an elite pass rusher/run stopper on the right side. If we did this I'd be extremely excited.. I have some, could you say, intriguing defensive switches.
    Terdell Sands - he's huge. People calling for Alan Branch may get it in this kid. He's 6'7 335 lbs. He knows how to stop the run. I'm sure with his size and strength could really aide Joey Porter against double teams.

    NT:
    None I think we're set. Or a UDFA

    LB:
    Lance Briggs - A pro bowler in the Bear 46. I don't know if he could make the switch to pass rusher. I know he's more than capable of playing in coverage though. Something Haggans lacks.
    Kawika Mitchell - He's a solid ILB and could give us someone ready to replace Farrior Asap instead of trying to find a rookie in the draft.
    Antwan Peek - He's 6'3 250 lbs, solid speed/size combo, could be someone to sign cheap and see if he can do it in the preseason, if he can't, he might be able to give us depth on nickel downs where we use a traditional 4 front.
    Adalius Thomas - The sad thing is he could be better than Joey Porter. Albeit we still have James Harrison. I think this would be an excellent pickup, Especially if he's asking around the same money that Porter is.

    CB:
    We're playing bad but we do have talent at the position

    S:

    We have 2 guys that could be starting at FS. I would like to see Anthony Smith with Either Tyrone Carter or Robert Griffith behind him and Troy P. with Ryan Clark behind him.

    Ken Hamlin - Isn't going to be cheap, but we need depth, not starters.


    Guys I would move:

    Kendall Simmons - Chris Keomeatu has shown every chance he got that, even though he's not the most athletic, he's not going to be moved. I think he's shown he could be more than just a backup and probably more than just a solid starter. I think he's worth a 2nd rounder to a team Like Zona.

    Max Starks - I think a team picking in the late of first round needing some Olineman, especially with Starks' size could possibly pick him up. I would tender him for one year and if someone wants to give a first move him, if not, hope he has a better season and trade him before the trade deadline. For this I'm goign to get a 1st because It's my dream.

    Joey Porter - I catch flak because of this but he's been more mouth and less action since last year started. I think Bringing in Adalius Thomas would give us more flexibility. He can play Rover, cover the slot WR, cover the TE and is better than Porter at Rushing the QB/Defending the Run. With Porter Gone.. The same money could be spent on Adalius who has actually earned the contract. For this Mock We get a 2nd for him. He probably could net a first for a team looking to win soon. But we should be a bit realistic.

    Right now we have - 2 -1sts, 3 - 2nds, 1 -3rd, 2-4ths, 2 - 5ths, 1 6th, 1 7th.


    Guys I'm Sure about signing:

    Daniel Graham - We need a solid #2 blocking TE.
    Rodney Bailey - Need him back
    Tyrone Carter - I'm not a huge fan, but he's been solid and knows the scheme.
    Najeh Davenport - Great 3rd down rb and Screen RB. Not to mention kick returns.

    Guys I'm looking at depending on scheme:
    Terdell Sands/Cory Redding - I think Terdell could hold point of attack and stop the run, meanwhile Redding would be a good rusher.
    Kawika Mitchell - depends on money or if we want a proven guy already.
    Andre Gurode - Athletic enough, I think he could be the next solid pro bowl acquisition.
    Mike Williams - Big Target, hard to look at his pre-Detroit production (USC), Look at Joey Harrington, who knows a change of scenery/coaching may make a huge difference.

    Stipulation I figure we'll be picking at #9 and #12 (speculation on the 2nd Pick).

    We trade our #9 to the Pats for both of their 1sts (20 and 25 for lack of exactness).

    Draft:


    1a) Jake Long, OT, Michigan

    We need a right tackle bad. Well Joe Thomas is gone, Baker could probably do it, but I think Jake Long is by far the best pick. He'll come in and instantly take the RT position by storm. He's held some of the best pass rushers in the Big 10 to zilch. Vernon Gholston who will be big talk for 3-4 OLB in a year or so, didn't see the backfield. Along with Tim Crowder(Crowders sack was against Reuben Riley), I'm not a 100% sure, but I don't think he gave up a sack all year. He's also a huge reason for the success in the Michigan run game. He and Keomeatu will be a huge duo of Road graders for Willie Parker and Najeh Davenport on Screens.

    1b) Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh

    Why not? If we have 3 1st rounders we can certainly get him. I think he's top 10 good and it's not a Pitt bias. He's just that good. He doesn't have elite timed speed (likely the 4.4-4.5 range) but he has undeniable game speed. I like to think he's basically a talented DeShea clone. He can return kicks, He can blitz, he aids in the run defense, he blows up screens, he's very aggressive, he's got amazing hands and he's a shut down corner.

    1c) David Harris, ILB, Michigan

    I think before all is said and done he will sneak into round 1. He's got pro size already at 6'2 250+ lbs. Simply put the guy is always in the gap of the ballcarrier. On passing plays he has reaction speed that i have seen out of very few other MLBs. He's good at shedding blocks and making the tackle. He does have the athleticism to get beat but still make a play.

    2a) Josh Beekman, OG, Boston College

    He may only be 6'2, but he's 325 lbs of pure mean. Everyone was talking about Colons mean demeanor and disposition this pre-season, I think this kids is worse. He comes in and gives us a young group behind Keomeatu and Faneca. Learning from Faneca or if Keomeatu can't pull it off we have arguably the best Guard in the draft.

    2b)Dwayne Bowe, WR, Louisiana State

    We need help at Wideout. Ben needs another reliable target. Hines is getting older and I don't know how much more his body can take of going across the middle and taking the big hit. Well Dwayne Bowe's stock has been skyrocketing. For good reason as well. He's got solid size at 6'3 220lbs. and will run probably in the 4.4 range. He's bailed out Big JaMarcus Russell in several games this season and it'd be nice to have that dependability. As much as I like Holmes I think he'll be a career #2(not that thats bad, he's just not a #1.) I think Bowe can play #3 for 2-3 Seasons and Take over #1 for Ward.

    2c) Brian Leonard, H-Back, Rutgers

    Sorry about the big picture, but it was needed to do him Justice. Brian Leonard is a Mike Alstott like player, and like Reggie Bush needs to be utilized accordingly. He is a great reciever and is fast enough to block for a speedier back. Danimal is by far one of the best and most underrated FB's in the league, however he's not a finesse speed blocker. Leonard comes in and plays some Fullback, Lines up in the slot (He has THAT speed), maybe at TE, and RB. He can block for Willie and break a block to help him downfield. Something we desperately need. But Dan can Block for Najeh and a guy to be added later.

    3) Tony Hunt, RB, Penn State

    Tony Hunt is as close to an untackleable runningback as you'll find in the game today(not just the draft). He's a guy that just bounces and goes. He could fall round three only because I see him dropping a 4.6 to 4.7. Pittsburgh isn't afraid because for what we need him for, we know his production and he's capable. He would come in for short yardage or when Najeh gets hurt (Unfortunately it's never a question of IF but WHEN) and he has the hands to catch out of the backfield. Since we are in this position we might as well add as many weapons as possible.

    4a)Dan Mozes, C, West Virginia

    Dan is 6'4 295lbs and quite possibly the fastest/most athletic center out there. We're a team that needs to utilize our running game. We're building it up with the additions of Jake Long, Tony Hunt, Brian Leonard and starting Chris Keomeatu. However Okobi has looked good, but I'm not sold. Phillip looked good in preseason, but i'm not sure he can handle guys like Jamal Williams either (although, few can). I would add Mozes because we did amazing things with Hartings. Mozes in my view could be faster, stronger, less knee problems and a better center, meaning we'll continue the tradition of athletic centers. I've talked to Dan and he's expressed real excitement about blocking for Willie Parker. Who better to block for Willie than someone who's face good competition (Okobi, Bolston, and this saturday another guy we'll be drafting)

    4b) Brian Smith, OLB, Missouri

    Brian Smith was probably the #1 consensus DE to OLB convert in this draft... Until he broke his hip. Again, I'll take it. He was 3 sacks away from the career sacks record in the Big 12. He has size at 6'4 240 lbs. He can rush the power, has an array of moves and he has dropped into coverage. I Think he could learn behind Adalius for a season or two while Harrison squared play out behind Haggans.

    5a) Jake Kuresa, OT, BYU

    Kuresa is a big man among big men. He may only be 6'4 but he's 340/350 lbs. Funny part is he isn't "overweight" He has the frame to add the weight. His weight has never, and probably won't ever, be a problem. I was seriously debating Gosder Cherilous or James Marten here, but Jake Kuresa could Fall and just like Chris Keomeatu this kid will be a later round pick, but he could be a solid starter and definitely give us great depth. I'm not sold on Essex long term. I've been to camp every year for the past 6 years and he has been by far one of the worst guys there. He's one of the slowest and is overweight. I think he may be able to pull off RT, but we could use a solid backup LT. Here's your Backup and possibly future starter. He played in the MWC so he hasn't faced "Elite" competition, but he has the size, the heart and the talent to be a solid starter if not a great one. I'm not so sold on Marvels long term either. Jake Long could eventually move to LT. Giving us Colon/Kuresa for RT.

    5b) Leonard Peters, FS, Hawaii

    I love this move, but I hate it. I want him to be a backup and Special Teams Ace. I believe I've already stated my blatant disliking of Tyrone Carter. He's solid at Nickel, but he's a safety and gives almost no value there. This is why I love this move. I hate it because I think this kid is that Talented that he could end up beating out Anthony Smith at FS. Which would upset me, but if he's better, I want him to start. He has helped Hawaii push for their record this season. He's a solid cover safety and has incredible speed, to which I think he can play out on the island(pun intended) for when Troy Blitzes. I would love the Duo of An Smith + Leonard Peters & Troy P + Ryan Clark. That would give us a young quadro of talented Safeties.

    6) Eric Foster, DT/ILB, Rutgers

    At a small 6'3 265 lbs (for DT anyways), Foster does a great job. He basically was 50-50 against Dan Mozes. I want this kid to play ILB. He'll allow us to keep deep with Talent at ILB and so even with Injuries we won't have to sign street or washed up players. I see at first Foster and Wallace battling it out behind Larry Foote, While Harris gets behind Farrior. Kreidwaldt would be cut. I think Kreidy was a solid Special teamer but thats as far as he really contributed. I like the bolstering of this roster with Young solid talent. Foster and Wallace could be special Teams ace's while working at backup. In a year or so when Farrior retires the best of the 3 could take it, and the other 2 would give us more than solid backups.

    7) Ikaika Alama-Francis, DE, Hawaii

    Ah, my famous 7th round pick. He's a 6'6 290lb kid thats only played football for 2 years. He played basketball for a while and switched to football. He may have the athleticism to play OLB, but he's had 2 seasons at DE in a 3-4 so he will be able to come in knowing the position. May be nothing more than a pass rush specialist, but I think this kid has solid talent.




    UDFA's to look at:

    Sawyer Smith, QB, Portland State

    6'5 220 lbs prototypical size and speed. Can take a hit and keep moving. A poor mans Ben Roethlisberger


    Brett Ratliff, QB, Utah

    6'4 225. Solid Passer, above average mobility, good accuracy. Was in a pass happy system that developed Alex Smith(SF)


    Jackie Battle, RB, Houston

    6'1 250lb Bull. He is easier tackled than Tony Hunt, but he hits harder. Tony is a bouncer, this guy is a tank.


    Paul Thompson, WR, Oklahoma

    I said when we picked Bowe that Ben needs some big targets. Paul Thompson is a WR playing QB right now. He has solid Speed and Size ratio, and could be a Randel El Esque player if he shows to have decent accuracy for trick plays.


    David Sutton, WR, UTEP

    Again big target at 6'4 225, he has 4.4ish speed (If I read UTEPs site right). He's raw playing for short time converting from Volleyball, could be our next UDFA steal?


    Chad Schroeder, WR, Texas A&M

    What has been killing us? Kickoff and punt returns? Well copy the people who've found the best... Baltimore/Cleveland. Schroeder is a burner that has played QB and moved to WR. at 6'1 180. He has legitimate 4.3ish speed. He turned his first 5 receptions into TDs. I think this kid could be our BJ Sams/Josh Cribbs


    Brent Celek, TE, Cincinnati


    With the addition of Daniel Graham, we didn't draft a TE, Graham is young enough to give us a solid backup. But adding one for PS purposes isn't a bad idea. Celek has good feet and excellent hands. He's decent as a blocker. I've only seen 2 cincy games and He's been the big play guy from Cincy on offense in both.


    Brandon Cox, OT, Louisiana-Lafayette

    I'll admit I haven't seen him play, but I've read up on him and he (from other peoples words and my interpretations) seems to really know how to use his 6'7 330lb body. Could be a scout team player.


    Palauni Ma Sun, OG, Oregon
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    Haven't got a chance to watch Oregon other than their upset of Oklahoma. However I can't recall him being great or horrid (Didn't watch the line as much). I think again, if he's as good as scout reports say, he could work his way up the system.


    Van Houston, DE, Memphis
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    College DT, could play DE on the PS and work his way up with Nua and Harris. Don't forget, Smith is 9 years pro, Kirschke isn't anything to be overly excited about, Rodney Bailey is only a band-aid on a small wound.


    Xzavie Jackson, DE, Missouri

    College DE, that will play DE on our PS.


    Quinton Echols, NT, KSU

    6'1 315lbs is solid and was a huge reason that KSU Upset Texas.


    Marcus Bacon, OLB, Missouri

    I don't know what it is about the Missouri LB Core. I'm not a fan of Jamar Smith, But Jackson, Smith, Harrington and Bacon are players that could really evolve with the right defensive coaching (PITTSBURGH!)


    Ramon Guzman, OLB, Buffalo

    An OLB with DB Like Speed, 6'3 260lbs and could be a coverage LB for us on 3rd down.


    Dedrick Harrington, ILB, Missouri

    Read Bacon!


    Joe Sturdivant, SS, SMU

    Underrated SS. He may be 6' 210 lbs but he is a ballhawk. Played against smaller competition. Dad was a linebacker and he plays like one. Makes the sure tackle, not just the big hit.


    Adam Graessle, P, Pittsburgh

    Solid Punter. Seems to have good mechanics and decent accuracy. Would compete with Mike Barr.

    That wraps it up.


    Except:

    Say Hello to the new Steelers!!!









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    • Only problems I see are that we will not sign AT no matter how good he would be for us. Just not something we'd do.

      No one will give us a first for Max Starks.

      2nd for Porter is realistic.

      I dn't think the Pats would be interested oin trading up.

      I like the picks, but there is now way we get that many.

      Thanks to The Dynasty for the sig

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      • That is a lot of picks. I know thats sort of a dream draft situation there, but i dont think i could even pull that off in Madden let alone in the real world. It looks more like a team trying to rebuild, which I dont think we are. We just need to infuse some youth into some key areas (Oline, LB).

        My worst case (or best case maybe?) scenario for the draft is this:

        1.Starks gets tendered to a team looking for a big RT and we get a second rounder

        2.Porter demands a new contract and threatens a holdout and we ship him out a-la Deion Branch for another second.

        3.We trade down to the late teens early twenties for either the Pats 2 firsts, or some other teams 1st, 2nd, and maybe 4th or 5th.

        So that leaves us with probably 1 first, 3 seconds, and an extra 4th or 5th.

        Thats my guess.

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        • Originally posted by skarocksoi
          That is a lot of picks. I know thats sort of a dream draft situation there, but i dont think i could even pull that off in Madden let alone in the real world. It looks more like a team trying to rebuild, which I dont think we are. We just need to infuse some youth into some key areas (Oline, LB).

          My worst case (or best case maybe?) scenario for the draft is this:

          1.Starks gets tendered to a team looking for a big RT and we get a second rounder

          2.Porter demands a new contract and threatens a holdout and we ship him out a-la Deion Branch for another second.

          3.We trade down to the late teens early twenties for either the Pats 2 firsts, or some other teams 1st, 2nd, and maybe 4th or 5th.

          So that leaves us with probably 1 first, 3 seconds, and an extra 4th or 5th.

          Thats my guess.
          This was a dream draft, if I were GM.

          There will be a change though. I'm going to put Ben Patrick at 5b instead of Leonard Peters. That way I don't really have to sign Daniel Graham.

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          • Well guys this week we should get some idea of the following:

            1) How good Nate Washington is as a starter - He's slated to be the #1 WR with Hines being out. I like it, but I'm worried about the Fact our Starting WR's will have a year combined between them. Then again we're really out of contention, lets see what the kid can do.

            2) Willie Reid - With WR depth at a low, Willie Reid practiced this week and could be playing PR/KR this week. He's been upgraded.

            3) Anthony Smith - With Polamalu out, Anthony Smith will see increased time starting in the Dime Package. Tyrone Carter will likely take over the SS Role. I wish they'd move Clark over and give Smith a straight up shot at starting.

            As for Strategy:

            1) Use Willie

            The guy is slated to be a probowler after his second starting season. He's 3rd in the AFC and the sad part about that is he only has 4 - 100+ Rushing games. He would have more but we abandon the run too early. They lost Booger McFarland in a trade, our offensive line should be able to exploit Chris Hovan. We have a better line than Dallas IMO and should be able to get Willie 200+ Yards. At a Flat # of 200 that would put Willie at 1115 Yards on the season. Without knowing other peoples totals i'll give everyone ahead of him 100 yards. He would still be 3rd in the AFC but only 5th in the league.

            2) Give Ben Time

            Ben is as good as anyone when he has time. He Doesn't have Hines, but Nate Washington is coming into his own. He is probably our best jump baller, so if we have the lead don't be afraid to let him jump for a few.

            3) Shut down Galloway

            Our LB Group shuts down RB's 98% of the time so Caddy doesn't worry me as much as Galloway does. He has elite deep speed and we've seen that McFadden has trouble with faster recievers. We need Ike on Joey.

            4) Pressure Bruce

            Gradkowski is doing well as a rookie, but he's not amazing. He gets rattled easy. Without Troy this is going to be hard, but send some overload blitzes. He faltered under the pressure of the Dallas 3-4... I'm sure he would have trouble against ours.

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            • Stiller - only two flaws that I see with your "dream" scenario:

              1. that does seem more like a rebuilding scenario and like skarocksoi I don't feel we need to rebuild, just upgrade a few areas

              2. there's now way we could afford to take on all those draft picks or free agents without unloading 2/3 of our current roster.

              Unlike a few others, I'm not ruling out the possibilty of A. Thomas becomming a Steeler, though it is unlikely. He has already expressed that he wants to test the market and if we can wait long enough and sign him just before he resigns with Bal, just like he did 3 years ago, though this year there will most assuredly be more interest in him.

              With the current situation in Cleveland, ie, Droughns being dropped to 2nd string, it is looking more and more like the Browns do not want to pay his $1.75mil roster bonus or salary next year. If they do release him or allow him to seek a trade, what do you guys think about going after him?

              At 5'11" 220 lbs he's not huge but he does run hard with a bruiser's mentality and has shown to be less injury prone than Davenport.(though I still like Najeh) He's only 28 and has always carried himself professionally while he was a backup in Denver and even now as he's being demoted for younger guys, so he's used to playing in a reserve role.

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              • Originally posted by CDub
                Stiller - only two flaws that I see with your "dream" scenario:

                1. that does seem more like a rebuilding scenario and like skarocksoi I don't feel we need to rebuild, just upgrade a few areas

                2. there's now way we could afford to take on all those draft picks or free agents without unloading 2/3 of our current roster.

                Unlike a few others, I'm not ruling out the possibilty of A. Thomas becomming a Steeler, though it is unlikely. He has already expressed that he wants to test the market and if we can wait long enough and sign him just before he resigns with Bal, just like he did 3 years ago, though this year there will most assuredly be more interest in him.

                With the current situation in Cleveland, ie, Droughns being dropped to 2nd string, it is looking more and more like the Browns do not want to pay his $1.75mil roster bonus or salary next year. If they do release him or allow him to seek a trade, what do you guys think about going after him?

                At 5'11" 220 lbs he's not huge but he does run hard with a bruiser's mentality and has shown to be less injury prone than Davenport.(though I still like Najeh) He's only 28 and has always carried himself professionally while he was a backup in Denver and even now as he's being demoted for younger guys, so he's used to playing in a reserve role.
                I can't find the link but I read this morning that Adalius isn't seeking an extension and has cancelled talks with Baltimore.

                My opinion... If his asking Price is close to what Porter wants, Sign Adalius, Trade Porter.

                I always liked Droughns, his injury issues worry me, but he reminds me of Duce, did well and came to Pittsburgh, got top heavy, too upright and kind of fell off the face of the earth.

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                • Originally posted by CDub
                  Without going into great detail, yet, the positions that I currently feel we need to see the most improvement from between now and next year are:

                  1. OT
                  2. OLB
                  3. OG
                  4. ILB
                  5. CB
                  6. WR
                  7. KR/PR
                  8. RB

                  In the near future I will go into detail on each of these positions and the list is flexible depending on the positional play throughout the remainder of the season.

                  Obviously this is just my opinion and the list, as well as how to address each of the problems, is up for debate.
                  Now the explinations.

                  Obviously positions 1-4 will have an affect on 5, 6, and 8, whereas 7 is it's own deal.

                  1. OT -

                  Problem - Starks can't get out of his stance before his assignment is already on top of Ben and Smith has actually been getting pushed around.

                  Solutions - I don't feel that it is time yet to give up on either of these guys but obvioulsy something must be done. Starks - offer him a one year tender, if someone wants him, we get the 1st rounder, if not, we force him to lose some weight and see how he performs knowing that his future earnings and job are on the line. Smith - after a down year like this his trade value will take a direct hit and I don't think we'd get a good enough return. So, we need to find another motivating factor (for both guys) and I think that would best come from a 1st rd pick. Whoever doesn't pick up their slack gets replaced the following year.

                  2. OLB -

                  Problem - DUUHH! - Lack of pass rush combined with sub-par coverage skills. I said it this pre-season and I'll say it again, Joey's best years are behind him (the only team he's played well against in the last two years is Cleveland - and Indy in the playoffs) and Haggans is solid but not spectacular and that is what's required of a Steelers OLB.

                  Solutions - Porter will not be here next year, however it happens.(if he is, we're wasting money dammit!) Haggans can succeed if he has someone drawing attention from the other side. Therefore, we need to find a stud in the draft. I know some of you feel it's a down year for 'tweeners but I think there are some guys who will be there in the 2nd rd who can be stars like Woodley and Spencer. I'd love to get A.T. but he's probably out of our price range.

                  3. OG -

                  Problem - Simmons is a turnstyle, Faneca looks out of shape and plays unmotivated, and as much as I like his pure run blocking toughness, I'm not yet sold on Kemoeatu's abilties as a pulling guard (and our guards pull a lot) or his pass protection.

                  Solution - Again, I don't think we should give up on any of these guys yet as they are young and have shown talent. Even though I have this pos. listed as our 3rd most important need in terms of improvement, I think a 4th rd pick can address the need. Faneca just needs to be motivated again and a down year like this should be enough for him. If we pick up a 4th rd pick and have an open competition going into next year between him, Kemo, and Simmons, one of them will separate himself as a starter.

                  4. ILB -

                  Problem - Age is cathing up with James Farrior. That's the only problem, but it needs to be addressed.

                  Solution - Larry Foote, much like Haggans, is a very solid player who can excel when playing alongside a star. Therefore, we need to find that star. Ideally, I'd like to have a guy like H.B. or David Harris there in the 3rd, but they'll probably be gone by the 2nd. A guy I've been interested in for the later rds is Oscar Lua of USC. In F/A, I think we could do the same thing we did with Farrior with Lance Briggs (pricey, I know).

                  5. CB -

                  Problem - Our #1 is not playing like a #1, our #2 has not yet grown into a #2, our #3 went from age 30 to age 60 in one offseason (forget falling off, that boy fell and can't get up), and our #4 muffed so many punts and kicks he hurt his neck trying to follow the bouncing ball. Last, but certainly not least, midgets just can't make up for their height (what ever happened to guys like Mel Blount - 6'3" 205 lbs, could run, hit, and catch)

                  Solution - PASS RUSH!!! That aside, going into this season I thought that the secondary would be one of our strong points, but due to injury and regression from our top two, we are left needing to improve the level of play. I know we're all dreaming of guys like McCaulley and Revis, but they'll be long gone by this point. Tanard Jackson is someone to think about in the draft, and Rodderick Hood is a potential F/A guy. We've got the talent at the right spots, we just need to put it all together, and spend some time after practice on the jugs machine.

                  6. WR -

                  Problem - Consintency and size. We've got guys who are quick, shifty, and good with the ball in their hands, but we don't have guys who can out-jump, out-muscle, or break tackles. Worst of all, right now, we don't have anyone who will consistently make the catch, Hines included.

                  Solution - Growth pills! Or....... get someone bigger! Hines obvioulsy should be our #1, Holmes should be our slot, and our #2 should be a 6'3" 215 lbs type. I'm sorry, Nate Washington just isn't good enough. Period. Guys like Calvin and Dwayne Jarret will be gone, as will Samardja and probably Bowe and Rice. If any of them are left I'd take 'em in a heartbeat. Guys like Paul Williams, Dallas Baker, or even Rhema McKnight should be there on the 2nd day. Drew Bennett could be a good F/A guy, as has already been noted here.

                  7. PR/KR -

                  Problems - Too much butter and fried chicken grease on hands, mixed with a nice side-salad of consentration lapses.

                  Solution - 2 step process: step 1 - CATCH THE FUC*ING BALL!!!!! step 2 - HOLD ON TO THE FUC*ING BALL!!!!! And if you feel so inclined, you can add a third step----RUN FORWARD!!!!! I know, I know, it's a foreign concept when we're so used to spinning in circles and running side to side without actually going anywhere. I don't think there need to be any draft picks or F/A moves spent on the return game, just by a bucket of stick'um and call it good. But seriously, next year we should be alright with Reid and either Holmes, Najeh, or Morey.

                  8. RB -

                  Problem - The rest of our offense is not setup for the 2,1,0,3,-2,1,3,35 yd hit or miss style that Willie gives us and DB's are not scared of Willie either, not to mention when he gets blown up by a blitzer.

                  Solution - BLOCK SOMEBODY!!! OPEN UP A GODDAMN HOLE!!! I love Willie's breakout potential and the game changing affect he can have. That said, I think we all realize that this team needs a bruiser to get us started and to finish things off. I think both Verron and Najeh are good 3rd down guys with the slight edge going to Najeh. I'd be happy keeping either one of those guys. However, we still need a RB who will come in for 3 or 4 series in a row and give us that 3, 4, 3, 5, 3 yd consistency to get the offense in rythm. In this case I think the F/A market could be our best bet with guys like Betts, Duckett, Droughns, Turner all being possibilties. In the draft, guys like Bush and Hunt are obvious, but a guy I kinda like is DeShawn Wynn.


                  Now, having listed these problems and some potential solutions, I must state that I feel we need to first find out what we have in backups and reserves. We need to find out if guys like Colon, Phillip, Essex, Harrison & Harrison, Wallace, Reid, and Humes can put to use the potential that they have that made us draft them and become starters, or if we need to resort to some of the solutions I've listed above.

                  Obvioulsy these are just some of my opinions and all are up for debate.

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                  • Originally posted by Mr. Stiller
                    Originally posted by CDub
                    Stiller - only two flaws that I see with your "dream" scenario:

                    1. that does seem more like a rebuilding scenario and like skarocksoi I don't feel we need to rebuild, just upgrade a few areas

                    2. there's now way we could afford to take on all those draft picks or free agents without unloading 2/3 of our current roster.

                    Unlike a few others, I'm not ruling out the possibilty of A. Thomas becomming a Steeler, though it is unlikely. He has already expressed that he wants to test the market and if we can wait long enough and sign him just before he resigns with Bal, just like he did 3 years ago, though this year there will most assuredly be more interest in him.

                    With the current situation in Cleveland, ie, Droughns being dropped to 2nd string, it is looking more and more like the Browns do not want to pay his $1.75mil roster bonus or salary next year. If they do release him or allow him to seek a trade, what do you guys think about going after him?

                    At 5'11" 220 lbs he's not huge but he does run hard with a bruiser's mentality and has shown to be less injury prone than Davenport.(though I still like Najeh) He's only 28 and has always carried himself professionally while he was a backup in Denver and even now as he's being demoted for younger guys, so he's used to playing in a reserve role.
                    I can't find the link but I read this morning that Adalius isn't seeking an extension and has cancelled talks with Baltimore.

                    My opinion... If his asking Price is close to what Porter wants, Sign Adalius, Trade Porter.

                    I always liked Droughns, his injury issues worry me, but he reminds me of Duce, did well and came to Pittsburgh, got top heavy, too upright and kind of fell off the face of the earth.
                    Only problem with signing At and trading Porter would be that we'd still be paying an older linebacker alot of money and we'd have to take a cap hit for Porter. It'd be really expensive to trade Porter and sign AT.

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                    • Mr Stiller, I can't knock that because of how in depth and well thought out it is, so I apologize if I'm nitpicking cuz I did enjoy, but....

                      You lost me with Kendall Simmons for a 2nd and Max Starks for a 1st. Now I know you said it's your dream situation and I understand, but still, in my dreams I might bang Pamela Anderson but it's not for 48 straight hours.

                      I think people are forgetting how close some of our games were this year and how a few plays here and there could change everything around. NFL really comes down to makin plays at the end of the games. There are only a handful that are really out of reach either way, year in year out per team. I would certainly make some of those trades you said just because i think they are no-brainers, but chances are most wont happen. Starks is young and could get another look (with maybe a better backup to push him). Simmons i wouldnt even give a 7th round pick for so i expect him to be here. Maybe try center, or just backup guard to Kemoeatu.

                      With 50 draft picks, I think it's safe to say we'll have a good draft. I know even u say you doubt we'd sign Adalius, and i'm a big fan as well, but i dont see it. I do like the Graham signing and DE options. They seem doable.

                      I usually don't like projecting trades for the draft, cuz often people project unrealistic trades. If i'm projecting, i factor in about the worst possible situation, which is more realistic to know what is a guarantee than what is a shot in the dark. Everyone (not you) always thinks its so easy to trade down or up, but it takes two to tango.

                      May I ask how old you are and what the heck you do for a living. You've got a lot of spare time. Wow. But hey, i enjoy the thoughts so keep it comin. I look forward to a slightly more realistic projection. And like I said, I'm only nitpicking at things i didnt like, not posting anything i did like.

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                      • Stop talking about trading Porter. It is not going to happen. Yes, he is not the player he once was. The problem is, no one is going to give us anything for him. He has little value as trade bait. To old, to expensive, and if a team really wants him, all they have to do is wait. He may get cut.

                        Tonight is the MAC championship game. Watch #93 for CMU. That is Dan Bazian. He is a 4-3 DE, but might be able to play OLB like Kevin Greene did. Similier size, skills, and attitude. he doesn't give up. He will chase the ball all night long. That is the type of player we need more of. Guys that give 100% every game, all game.

                        It is a waste of time to talk about names. We don't know who is available yet. Yes, there are dozens of players that can help. But, we don't know which juniors are coming out, we don't know were we will be drafting yet, and we don't know how much (if any) cap space we will have. I know it has been a long year. But we don't know anything yet, we don't even know who ar ecoach is for next year. Be patient. All will become clear over the next 2 months.

                        I will say this. If anyone in the front office is listening, play the young guys!!!!!!! Find out who can cut it and who can't. the season is over. Play Kemo, Colon, Smith, Wallace, and Harrison.

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                        • Originally posted by richdg
                          Stop talking about trading Porter. It is not going to happen. Yes, he is not the player he once was. The problem is, no one is going to give us anything for him. He has little value as trade bait. To old, to expensive, and if a team really wants him, all they have to do is wait. He may get cut.

                          Tonight is the MAC championship game. Watch #93 for CMU. That is Dan Bazian. He is a 4-3 DE, but might be able to play OLB like Kevin Greene did. Similier size, skills, and attitude. he doesn't give up. He will chase the ball all night long. That is the type of player we need more of. Guys that give 100% every game, all game.

                          It is a waste of time to talk about names. We don't know who is available yet. Yes, there are dozens of players that can help. But, we don't know which juniors are coming out, we don't know were we will be drafting yet, and we don't know how much (if any) cap space we will have. I know it has been a long year. But we don't know anything yet, we don't even know who ar ecoach is for next year. Be patient. All will become clear over the next 2 months.

                          I will say this. If anyone in the front office is listening, play the young guys!!!!!!! Find out who can cut it and who can't. the season is over. Play Kemo, Colon, Smith, Wallace, and Harrison.
                          I agree. I'd love to trade Joey Porter. But trades just don't happen in the NFL. Not at the regularity to predict it to happen, for such a high round pick, and then base our draft around it happening. He's aging, on the decline, and too many players get cut and can be had for no picks at all.

                          I'm all for the thought of, "If we can trade Porter, do it..........but I doubt it's gonna happen" theory.

                          And also agree about the young guys. Would really like to see Rian Wallace play. Essex is another one u didnt mention and I'd even give Simmons a shot at center. Why not?!?

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                          • That was a dream situation.

                            This is more Realistic.

                            Realistic Steelers Mock/Offseason:

                            1 Trade - our #9 to the Patriots for their #20 and #24

                            We get a 4th and 5th for comp

                            Only player who doesn't get resigned is Najeh Davenport (resign Bailey and Carter.)

                            We sign 1 outsider - Anthony Thomas



                            1a) Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh

                            Our pass rush has been nonexistant. With no clear cut top DE-OLB Merriman type lets try an alternative solution, get a shut down corner. Revis is a solid pickup and he could make an impact sooner than later. He would give us solid depth. Revis and Ike would be a great Duo and McFadden can Take up Nickel and if he doesn't like that and Anthony Smith doesn't pan out he can try FS.

                            1b) Joe Staley,OT, Central Michigan

                            Staley is a favorite tackle in the NCAA. He has "2nd round" Grade, but he's a steeler fan and is a hard worker, could start at RT and see where it goes from there.

                            2) Brian Leonard, H-Back, Rutgers

                            Not necessarily a need, but we need talent on offense. Kreider is a power blocker, I think getting Leonard lets us let go of Najeh, get an injury free FB/RB. He's got great hands and is beyond a team player.

                            3) Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU

                            I've been watching Bowe a lot lately and he's money. He doesn't get the hype of Jarrett, Ginn, Rice.. But bottom line is, he makes the plays. He can come in, play the 3rd WR for a year, letting us cut or trade Ced, Moving Nate/Willie to 4th WR. Then When Hines is done, move him to #1. He has solid size, 6'3 220lbs. Decent speed, possession guy, and he isn't afraid to go across the middle or put his body on the line.

                            4a) Brian Smith, OLB, Missouri

                            Pass Rush has been missing, lets get a big DE with solid speed here, he dropped because of injury.

                            4b) Ryan Kalil, OC, USC

                            Phillip and Okobi the coaches are high on, but it won't hurt to add one of the most athletic for a center later in the draft. If Their Comfortable with Okobi/Phillip ... Change this pick to Conrad Bolston.

                            5a) Nathan Bennett, OG, Clemson

                            People were speculating on who Colbert was scouting at the VT/Clemson game... Not speculation anymore ;-)

                            5b) Ben Patrick,TE, Delaware

                            If you guys liked Daniel Graham coming out, here's your guy. He's 6'3, 270 lbs. He is a blocking TE with solid recieving skills. Charles Davis was a bad pick last season, but this is the type of guy they were looking for.

                            6) Eric Foster, ILB, Rutgers

                            We didn't add anyone so we do now. We're not sure what Rian Wallace offers and Eric Foster may be amazing if given the chance...

                            7) Ikaika Alama-Francis, DE, Hawaii

                            Good Size and plays his heart out.. 2 years in the 3-4 at DE give him pre-nfl knowledge of the 3-4.

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                            • we will not take a corner with a #1 pick.

                              We need to pressure the quarterback, any corner can look bad when the QB has all day to throw.

                              We should forget revis and take woodley.

                              Or, another pass rusher.

                              I like leonard in the 3rd. If this could happen I would be estatic.

                              If we end up taking him in the 2nd, I would be upset at all either.

                              I doubt the patriots would trade with us too.

                              thanks to steel man for the fresh sig

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                              • Originally posted by mikehop05
                                we will not take a corner with a #1 pick.

                                We need to pressure the quarterback, any corner can look bad when the QB has all day to throw.

                                We should forget revis and take woodley.

                                Or, another pass rusher.

                                I like leonard in the 3rd. If this could happen I would be estatic.

                                If we end up taking him in the 2nd, I would be upset at all either.

                                I doubt the patriots would trade with us too.
                                I don't, they may lose Asante Samuel... wouldn't hurt for them to move up and Take Leon Hall. Plus they need LB's.. Poz and the likes will be there.


                                As for Woodley, I don't think he's got the speed, hips to drop in coverage and just because he can rush i don't like the idea of having a liability in coverage.

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