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  • Originally posted by Brent View Post
    While I respect your opinion, I just do not feel in anyway comfortable with taking Maybin that high, let alone in the first 20 picks.
    I realize that most people don't agree with people and look at Maybin as a 'boom or bust', undersized, one-year wonder but I think he has more potential than any prospect in the past 5 years.

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    • He's the most similar "athletically" to DeMarcus Ware of any 3-4 OLB prospect since.

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      • Originally posted by phlysac View Post
        He's the most similar "athletically" to DeMarcus Ware of any 3-4 OLB prospect since.
        Yeah I agree.

        I don't understand the Maybin hate either. I think the steroid rumors really hurt people's perceptions of him. As well as the fact that Scott hates him...

        He isn't my number one choice because I don't think he will contribute as a starter right away. I would rather Andre Smith or B.J. Raji or maybe even Malcolm Jenkins. But Maybin has the most long term potential out of every first round 3-4 OLB prospect.

        I don't think its a negative that he is raw, not with the players we have now. The fact that he is so undeveloped means we could be getting a huge discount. Drafting Maybin and allowing Haralson to start for another year while platooning would be a good scenario to be in for both the long and short term.

        I also think every 3-4 OLB is a boom/bust type player because most of them (Brown and Orakpo included) are switching positions.

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        • Agreed. People tend to forget that DeMarcus Ware was considered a reach by some (picked 11th.) He was considered an undersized athlete that got by on speed. He also was a player that gained 20lbs in between his final game and the Combine. Both Ware and Maybin weighed in at 6'4" 250. Ran ~4.6 and had a ~40" vertical. Maybin actually registered faster times and better jumps than Ware. While Maybin's negative of only starting one full season is legitmate, it isn't far different from those that were concerned with Ware converting from 4-3 OLB early in his career to DE his final 2 years while playing against lesser competition.

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          • Everyone agrees that Maybin has a lot of upside, but that means he has a long way to go, especially in coverage. I wouldn't call it "hate" with him at all, but "skepticism" would definitely be there, as it should be with the type of project player he is and lack of experience he has. With all the above facts, drafting him with the 10th pick is a bit of a reach, and will only be worth it if he turns out to be a stud pass rusher.

            More and more, it looks like the Niners should trade back a few spots if one of the top 6-8 players aren't left. I'm thinking the Jets are a great possibility to be a trade partner if Sanchez is still on the board at 10.


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            • That's what I'm confused about. If any of the guys were "can't miss" they wouldn't be available at pick #10. Upside has to be a very integral part of the equation. Many people list lack of experience in coverage as a knock on Maybin. The fact is that is a concern of every 4-3 DE turned 4-3 OLB in the history of the NFL. Fortunately, Maybin has limited experience in coverage at Penn Sate. More experience than Orakpo and Brown, in fact.
              Last edited by phlysac; 04-10-2009, 02:22 AM.

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              • Originally posted by phlysac View Post
                That's what I'm confused about. If any of the guys were "can't miss" they wouldn't be available at pick #10. Upside has to be a very integral part of the equation. Many people list lack of experience in coverage as a knock on Maybin. The fact is that is a concern of every 4-3 DE turned 4-3 OLB in the history of the NFL. Fortunately, Maybin has limited experience in coverage at Penn Sate. More experience than Orakpo and Brown, in fact.
                True, and that is why I think that taking one of the elite OTs at 10 (if available) is the best way to go. There still may be one of the "tweeners" available in Round 2 who would have less pressure to perform right away (and less money invested) than a 1st Round Pick, giving him the chance to develop and reach that potential upside.


                #thestruggleisreal with Tomsula in as HC after the "Harbacle"
                Operation Pile Up Draft Picks for Re-Build: In progress, with much work to be done


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                • Originally posted by 49ersfan_87 View Post
                  I remember reading somewhere that out of all the visits last year, the only player we drafted was Josh Morgan.
                  They also like to bring in a lot of prospects so they have player profiles on these guys down the road when they hit free agency.

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                  • Two draft tidbits from Maiocco's twitter:
                    http://twitter.com/MattMaiocco
                    Random draft thought: I just can’t see 49ers selecting Jeremy Maclin, Aaron Maybin, Everette Brown or Malcolm Jenkins with the No. 10 pick.
                    1:05 PM Apr 8th from web
                    Random draft thought: This is the first time since 2005 that trading down in the first round might be an option as 49ers draft strategy.
                    about 17 hours ago from web
                    I acutally wouldn't mind seeing Scotty Mac trade down, snag a few extra picks, and then package those picks and jump back into round one again.

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                    • Originally posted by Madirishman View Post
                      Everyone agrees that Maybin has a lot of upside, but that means he has a long way to go, especially in coverage. I wouldn't call it "hate" with him at all, but "skepticism" would definitely be there, as it should be with the type of project player he is and lack of experience he has. With all the above facts, drafting him with the 10th pick is a bit of a reach, and will only be worth it if he turns out to be a stud pass rusher.

                      More and more, it looks like the Niners should trade back a few spots if one of the top 6-8 players aren't left. I'm thinking the Jets are a great possibility to be a trade partner if Sanchez is still on the board at 10.
                      I disagree with that. Out of all the top 3-4 OLB prospects (Orakpo, Brown, Maybin, Ayers, Barwin), Maybin has shown the best coverage abilities. He actually dropped back in coverage a quite a few times last year and showed a lot of ability.

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                      • Originally posted by abaddon41_80 View Post
                        I disagree with that. Out of all the top 3-4 OLB prospects (Orakpo, Brown, Maybin, Ayers, Barwin), Maybin has shown the best coverage abilities. He actually dropped back in coverage a quite a few times last year and showed a lot of ability.
                        I would love to see the evidence on this, as I like Maybin as a prospect. Everything I've seen and read, he is inexperienced in the passing game especially.


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                        Operation Pile Up Draft Picks for Re-Build: In progress, with much work to be done


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                        • I watched a few Penn State games (Iowa, OSU, Michigan State) and I saw him drop back into coverage at least a few times in all of those games. Scott's analysis of him even mentions

                          Has displayed some ability and promise in coverage

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                          • Originally posted by abaddon41_80 View Post
                            I watched a few Penn State games (Iowa, OSU, Michigan State) and I saw him drop back into coverage at least a few times in all of those games. Scott's analysis of him even mentions

                            Has displayed some ability and promise in coverage
                            I thought he disappeared against Oregon State. Late teens or early 20s, I'd have no problem with taking Maybin but at 10? I think it's just too high.
                            Last edited by Brent; 04-10-2009, 12:55 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Brent View Post
                              I thought he disappeared against Oregon State. Late teens or early 20s, I'd have no problem with taking Maybin but at 10? I think it's just too high.
                              The whole USC defense disappeared against Oregon State.


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                              • Originally posted by Brent View Post
                                I thought he disappeared against Oregon State. Late teens or early 20s, I'd have no problem with taking Maybin but at 10? I think it's just too high.
                                Ohio State, not Oregon State.

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