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  • Originally posted by Madirishman View Post
    You lost me right there LizardState. A Dallas/Niners combo fan is an oxymoron. :)
    Read the schedules -- they don't play each other next yr. Maybe in the NFC playoffs, nothing is written in stone though. If players can have FA, so can the fans. And I live here, & have to expend huge sums to watch the Cowboys in sports bars or whatever thanks to the draconian Comcast cable monopoly & NFL regional telecasting policies, so I think I have a choice of teams to support between the 9ers or the Raiders, & anyone here who follows the NFL knows that's no choice at all.

    Besides, both teams are managed by ego-driven megalomanics with no sense of propriety, you tell me which has worse people in charge. Only Jed York is the exception there, he's new on the job. See my earlier post on how his promotion into the front office has helped the team.

    I think McCloghan's divorce is behind his sudden departure. He has a huge salary & probably a big financial stake in the team that could be community property under CA law & he's covering his ass on his attorney's advice.

    Although the Niners board might already be semi set, i think its pretty clear that this is Singletarys show to run now.
    Not really, Jed York has the final say on pretty much everything & I believe that includes draft picks. And he signs Singletary's paycheck, he will probably replace McCloghan entirely. Actually that's a damn good thing that his father, Dr. John York, is out of the loop on FB matters, even the most rookie poster here knows about the NFL & FB in general than he does. McCloghan was never really a FB guy either, but he's a close friend of Dr. York's. If Singletary was in Cincy for their pro day workout I'll bet some York family members were there too, the DeBartolo/York family lives in Youngstown.

    All Dr. York does now is scheme & connive to put that new Santa Clara stadium deal together but it's been croaked by the awful economy.... he is IMO living in denial on the issue. Jed is green & still in his 1st yr on the job, but he shows great promise -- 180 out from the leftover Walsh appointees like Terry Donahue, who had the worst drafting the NFL for yrs & yrs there.
    Last edited by LizardState; 03-18-2010, 10:54 PM.

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    • Originally posted by thediggler3030 View Post
      Singletary gets good effort out of his players and has been successful, but lets be honest, the guy can barley string a proper sentence together.
      This. Singletary's decision making responsibilities need to be placed at a minimum.

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      • Originally posted by LizardState View Post
        Read the schedules -- they don't play each other next yr. Maybe in the NFC playoffs, nothing is written in stone though. If players can have FA, so can the fans. And I live here, & have to expend huge sums to watch the Cowboys in sports bars or whatever thanks to the draconian Comcast cable monopoly & NFL regional telecasting policies, so I think I have a choice of teams to support between the 9ers or the Raiders, & anyone here who follows the NFL knows that's no choice at all.
        Just cause they don't play each other, doesn't mean that they aren't perennial rivals and it's very uncommon for someone to not choose a side. I know that Chapo roots for both the Saints and Niners, which would be especially strange if there were still in the same division.

        Yes, players have FA, and switch teams, but they don't play for TWO teams simultaneously.

        That''s like saying that because I live in AZ now and some close friends of mine root for the Cardinals, I should now root for them AND the Niners? Nah, man, No way! I suck it up and pay for NFL Sunday Ticket so I never miss a game for my one and only favorite team; the 49ers.

        It is a free country and it is just a game we're talking about so root for who you want - just understand that rooting for both sides of a rivalry is abnormal.


        #thestruggleisreal with Tomsula in as HC after the "Harbacle"
        Operation Pile Up Draft Picks for Re-Build: In progress, with much work to be done


        "He who thinks he knows it all has the most to learn"

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        • I tend to agree. I think Simmons calls it sports bigamy.

          diggler and binary: i completely agree. Singletary has no track record of being a good judge of talent. he just hasnt shown that hes capable of making these decisions. lets hope its just some personal issues with mac and that he will get back on track soon. if its a power struggle, id be pissed that it happened now and not when someone like holmgren could have been brought on--although that may have brought some clashes based on what we know now.
          Last edited by FG4prez; 03-19-2010, 11:05 AM.

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          • Originally posted by LizardState View Post
            Not really, Jed York has the final say on pretty much everything & I believe that includes draft picks. And he signs Singletary's paycheck, he will probably replace McCloghan entirely. Actually that's a damn good thing that his father, Dr. John York, is out of the loop on FB matters, even the most rookie poster here knows about the NFL & FB in general than he does. McCloghan was never really a FB guy either, but he's a close friend of Dr. York's. If Singletary was in Cincy for their pro day workout I'll bet some York family members were there too, the DeBartolo/York family lives in Youngstown.
            His father was a former player and after his career became a scout. Scot has been around scouting and football for his whole life. He accompanied his dad around on scouting trips and watched film with his dad. He was learning the business from a young age and has been mentored by Ron Wolf and worked under Ted Thompson, so he has learned from some very good people. He has a great deal of knowledge when it comes to scouting and drafting players.

            I wouldn't call that a "non-football guy". He might not have been a player but he has been around the game from the day he was born.

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            • Originally posted by H.O.O.D View Post
              His father was a former player and after his career became a scout. Scot has been around scouting and football for his whole life. He accompanied his dad around on scouting trips and watched film with his dad. He was learning the business from a young age and has been mentored by Ron Wolf and worked under Ted Thompson, so he has learned from some very good people. He has a great deal of knowledge when it comes to scouting and drafting players.

              I wouldn't call that a "non-football guy". He might not have been a player but he has been around the game from the day he was born.
              You're entitled to your opinion, but IMO never played it or coached it = non-FB guy.

              There were those lingering questions about his credentials to be an NFL GM & those of Paraag Marathe, the VP of FB Operations, when both rose so high so quickly after the change in ownership from Eddie DeBartolo to his sister Denise & her husband Dr. York. Per the article in today's SJ Mercury News, Holmgren gave McCloghan his high recommendation for hire when he was with 9ers.

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              • Originally posted by LizardState View Post
                You're entitled to your opinion, but IMO never played it or coached it = non-FB guy.

                There were those lingering questions about his credentials to be an NFL GM & those of Paraag Marathe, the VP of FB Operations, when both rose so high so quickly after the change in ownership from Eddie DeBartolo to his sister Denise & her husband Dr. York. Per the article in today's SJ Mercury News, Holmgren gave McCloghan his high recommendation for hire when he was with 9ers.
                What does being "football guy" mean though? Just because you played the game doesn't necessarily mean you'll be good in the administrative side of it. Look at Matt Millen. He had a pretty good career as a linebacker...and was a fantastic broadcaster. But as general manager for the Detroit Lions he was completely awful. And what level would be acceptable to you in terms of "having played the game"? Pee wee? High school? College? All three of those are vastly different from the NFL and some of the best minds the NFL has known never played in the pros.
                Last edited by Ness; 03-19-2010, 06:53 PM.

                "Every light must fade, every heart return to darkness!"
                -San Francisco 49ers: Five Time Super Bowl Champions-
                Originally posted by Borat
                Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.

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                • We got a 6th round compensatory pick

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                  • Originally posted by PhysicalwithanF View Post
                    We got a 6th round compensatory pick
                    Cool. I believe many of us assumed it was a 7th.

                    Barry Sims re-signed to one year deal:

                    http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/...ith-49ers.html

                    Whew! After losing Pashos at a position of need, this is a good move for the Niners as he can play both sides as a back up, or fill-in starter if needed.


                    #thestruggleisreal with Tomsula in as HC after the "Harbacle"
                    Operation Pile Up Draft Picks for Re-Build: In progress, with much work to be done


                    "He who thinks he knows it all has the most to learn"

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                    • I just got photoshop - obviously, these are not Bonekrusher esque, but I'm just toying around with some stuff. If you like one, let me know, it's yours. Any ideas let me know, i'm trying to figure this stuff out.
                      Originally posted by Babylon
                      It's called Karma for all the years with Montana and Young.

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                      • Not a bad effort bro, try putting a thin border round them though. Really helps on the presentation front. ;)

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                        • you will get better trust me, those look like my 1st few. i had photoshop bout 2 years ago became good at it but then got a new comp. without photo so couldn't do it.

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                          • Originally posted by Madirishman View Post
                            Cool. I believe many of us assumed it was a 7th.

                            Barry Sims re-signed to one year deal:

                            http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/...ith-49ers.html

                            Whew! After losing Pashos at a position of need, this is a good move for the Niners as he can play both sides as a back up, or fill-in starter if needed.
                            What a day!

                            I'm glad we finally got a bit of light on the McCloughan situation. It sounds to me like York didn't want Scot to go, so maybe Mike Silver will shut up. I think something happened in Scot's personal life (divorce?) that started affecting his job performance. I wish Scot the best, and I think he did a hell of a job with the Niners.

                            Thank god we resigned Barry Sims; lol never thought I would say that. I'm not sure people had fully grasped the important role he filled last year. Without Sims we would need 2 OT's. Both would have to be rookies most likely, or FA's after the 53 man cut as there are no good FA OT's available at this time. We need to suit up 3 OT's in a game, and I'm pretty happy at least 2 of them will be veterans.

                            6th round comp pick is AWESOME. I was expecting one in round 7, good thing I was wrong :D

                            I am excited as the Niners have found some good late round talent in the past few years:
                            Delanie Walker
                            Josh Morgan
                            Ricky Jean-Francoise
                            Curtis Taylor
                            All great values on players who could have been drafted 1-2 rounds earlier.

                            Would love to see them look for a defensive lineman late again this year as I love the depth for 3-4 ends. A player like Clifton Geathers, Corey Peters or one of the Alabama DE's would make for a great developmental pick to compete against Francoise and Evans.

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                            • Originally posted by LizardState View Post
                              You're entitled to your opinion, but IMO never played it or coached it = non-FB guy.
                              I think I understand what you're trying to say but I don't think it matters in this sense.

                              Bill Polian is universally regarded as one of the best GM/Player Personel people in NFL History and he wasn't a "football-guy". He started as a scout for the Kansas City Chiefs in 1978.

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                              • I just saw an article on ESPN about us getting McNabb you have to be an insider to read it though.
                                Originally posted by 49erNation85
                                I dunno even half of those guys why did we sign them jeez.

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