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  • Mock Draft 1-3

    1 - William Moore, Mizzou - I think after the combine and senior bowl he's gonna put to rest all this Taylor Mays nonsense.

    2 - Phil Loadholdt - Stock may drop a little to poor times at the combine. It doesn't change the fact that he's a mauler and that's exactly what we need to sure up the offensive line.

    3 - Larry English - It's no secret that we need a spark in the pass rushing department. Larry English could provide that spark. He's very athletic with good size to be a 3-4 OLB. Now the problem will be which person will he replace. Parys Haralson is coming off a good season and Manny Lawson is.. Manny Lawson.


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    • sf has decent pieces everywhere, however it is time to let go a few guys on the secondary.
      rds 1-5
      1. malcom jenkins - playing alongside clements would provide great coverage and end to finding another corner
      2. max unger - can play all 3 spots on the o-line.
      3. larry english - very quick pass rusher and can spell smith.
      4. curtis taylor - not the fastest safety but solid player.
      5. jeff owens - i feel he can be a "shuan rogers" type pick. rogers was hurt when he was drafted and has had a decent career. owens could be that guy as well.

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      • At this point Mays is better than Moore, imo he always will be.
        Originally posted by 49erNation85
        I dunno even half of those guys why did we sign them jeez.

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        • Originally posted by Menardo75 View Post
          At this point Mays is better than Moore, imo he always will be.
          damn right he is.

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          • Originally posted by Menardo75 View Post
            At this point Mays is better than Moore, imo he always will be.
            As an unbiased observer I don't think so. But then again that is just my opinion.

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            • I still cant believe people put Moore ahead of Mays. Why would you want Moore, who looked overweight and slow all season over Mays. If Moore couldn't cover good enough to make plays this year in the pass happy Big 12 I highly doubt he would make much of an impact on our team.

              Even as a SS I think Moore is overrated. I was never really impressed by his tackling ability. IMO Moore equals a shorter, slower, and worse tackling version of Taylor Mays.

              It all comes down to his weight IMO. Moore at 210-215 like last year is worth a top 15 pick. But this year 225 or 230 as Scott has him listed is too much for him to carry effectively.

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              • Originally posted by will99890 View Post
                I still cant believe people put Moore ahead of Mays. Why would you want Moore, who looked overweight and slow all season over Mays. If Moore couldn't cover good enough to make plays this year in the pass happy Big 12 I highly doubt he would make much of an impact on our team.

                Even as a SS I think Moore is overrated. I was never really impressed by his tackling ability. IMO Moore equals a shorter, slower, and worse tackling version of Taylor Mays.

                It all comes down to his weight IMO. Moore at 210-215 like last year is worth a top 15 pick. But this year 225 or 230 as Scott has him listed is too much for him to carry effectively.
                The bottom line of the argument is who at their best is better. I say it's Mays. Either way I think Moore being overweight could be an indicator of his work ethic which is a big red flag.
                Originally posted by 49erNation85
                I dunno even half of those guys why did we sign them jeez.

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                • Originally posted by will99890 View Post
                  I still cant believe people put Moore ahead of Mays. Why would you want Moore, who looked overweight and slow all season over Mays. If Moore couldn't cover good enough to make plays this year in the pass happy Big 12 I highly doubt he would make much of an impact on our team.
                  He obviously played out of his niche having to match up in man coverage with recievers. Being in the zone coverage scheme is where he thrives and we seen that last season. He was asked to step up into man coverage more often this season because of his supporting cast, or lack thereof. Something Taylor Mays never had to worry about. I'd like to see Taylor Mays play man all day in a conference with Robinson, Bradford, McCoy, and Freeman.

                  Even as a SS I think Moore is overrated. I was never really impressed by his tackling ability. IMO Moore equals a shorter, slower, and worse tackling version of Taylor Mays.
                  He's shorter. He might be slower but not by alot due to Taylor Mays' freakish athleticism but he definitely isn't a worse tackler. Taylor Mays has one of the most terrible tackling techniques I have ever seen in a safety. He gets away with it because he's bigger and stronger than everyone else IN COLLEGE. I'd like to see him tackle a Brandon Jacobs like the way he does.

                  It all comes down to his weight IMO. Moore at 210-215 like last year is worth a top 15 pick. But this year 225 or 230 as Scott has him listed is too much for him to carry effectively.
                  His weight could be a problem. But given the circumstances with Mark Roman in San Fran, I'm willing to overlook Jenny Craig rather than watch another season with Roman back there.

                  All in all, IMHO, at his best... Moore > Mays


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                  • Originally posted by Menardo75 View Post
                    The bottom line of the argument is who at their best is better. I say it's Mays. Either way I think Moore being overweight could be an indicator of his work ethic which is a big red flag.
                    He might have put it on in the weight room..


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                    • Originally posted by YAYareaRB View Post
                      He might have put it on in the weight room..
                      He didnt. He's been banged up all year and wasnt able to get into proper shape or be 100% healthy.

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                      • First off, Grossman played at LT tackle this year at a very high level. Someone is going to have to overpay to get him and they are going to give him top 3 tackle money. We couldn't pay for him to come in a be our RT, if we want him we would have to bring him in as a LT and move Staley to RT which I would not want to do.

                        Second, I don't think safety is the biggest need on this team. While we have lacked big plays from our defense, the safety position hasn't kept us from being a rather good defense.

                        However, our poor offensive line play has really been the biggest problem on this team for years. Our instability at o-line contributed to the poor development of Alex Smith, more than a few injuries to ALL of our qb's and general inconsistency in offensive performance.

                        To top it all off I don't think that Mays is as good a prospect as some of the o-line talent in this draft. It's not that I don't think Mays is good, but he is a bit of a workout warrior and he definitely has some questions and flaws to his game. For those of you hoping that he is the reincarnation of Ed Reed, you are probably going to be disappointed.

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                        • Originally posted by Brent View Post
                          He didnt. He's been banged up all year and wasnt able to get into proper shape or be 100% healthy.
                          Exactly, thats why I wouldnt touch him very early in the draft until he proves that he is in shape and showing consistent effort. Moore from junior year was well worth a top 15 pick, but this year he played like a late first rounder at the absolute best. I would not mind having him on our team one bit if he gets his head on straight, gets healthy, and loses a few lbs.

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                          • So we draft Taylor Mays because he's faster and taller than Moore and every other safety in the class? No, not at 10.


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                            • Why is no-one considering Sam Bradford as a possibility for the 49ers first pick?

                              Quarterbacks have had a tendancy to drop a little in drafts because of the investment that you need to make. And I really don't think Hill is the long term answer at QB.

                              I think we should take Bradford and let him sit for a few years and then bring him in when he and the team is ready
                              CRANK THAT CRABTREE!!

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                              • Originally posted by goonie61 View Post
                                Why is no-one considering Sam Bradford as a possibility for the 49ers first pick?
                                A number of reasons:
                                -It wasnt that long ago we took a 1st round QB (that didnt work out)
                                -It's not our highest priority at the moment
                                -Too much money for someone that isnt going to contribute right away
                                -The bust potential on a QB is to high
                                -With the amount of money being paid to a guy sitting, it creates pressure to play him too soon

                                I am sure the others here could think of more reasons as well.

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